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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 23 @ 2:32 PM ET



And I don't see Bickel as the answer or even as an upgrade over the depth guys. Only good thing is that he's a RHD.

- Nucker101


Except he would be the toughest d man on our team. Somebody to clear the front of the net.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
Jason Botchford‏@botchford19h
@DemiGod_821 @blakeprice1040 Im unconvinced the Canucks even want to buy booth out. They were chasing him for a yr.


That's depressing

- VANTEL


I'll bet you that no Canuck players get bought out at the end of the season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
I like that second line, Hansen's breakout season so far is being overlooked because of the team sucking. @ the 3rd and 4th lines.
- Nucker101



Hansen has been progressing every year. I am starting to look at him as a top 6 . He is folliwing the same pth as Burrows.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Mar 23 @ 2:33 PM ET
I don't know much about him but if he can fight and hit it could be an upgrade over Alberts. Alberts has not been bad
- VANTEL


Upgrade over barker and he's got one more year at 750
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:34 PM ET
I have never seen him play. Better the AHLberts?
- Bieksa#3



I've only seen a handful of games, but I'm just looking at his normal and advanced numbers and it seems like he's a depth guy at best. I'd take him over Barker, especially since he's a RHD. And you can maybe play him as a #6 guy against bigger and tougher teams if needed.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:34 PM ET
I'll bet you that no Canuck players get bought out at the end of the season.
- 1970vintage



I think Ballard will be moved but if not bought out.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
I don't know much about him but if he can fight and hit it could be an upgrade over Alberts. Alberts has not been bad
- VANTEL



Alberts has been pretty solid for a depth guy, he actually uses his size but when he handles the puck I try not to look. I'd take Bickel over Barker though.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
Tambellini needs to go IMO, he's way too conservative to be a good GM IMO.
- Nucker101

I think they need to look beyond skill as a organization and fill their needs. If that means dealing one of their 1st overall picks then so be it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
I've only seen a handful of games, but I'm just looking at his normal and advanced numbers and it seems like he's a depth guy at best. I'd take him over Barker, especially since he's a RHD. And you can maybe play him as a #6 guy against bigger and tougher teams if needed.
- Nucker101



Exactly
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:36 PM ET
Alberts has been pretty solid for a depth guy, he actually uses his size but when he handles the puck I try not to look. I'd take Bickel over Barker though.
- Nucker101

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:36 PM ET
I think they need to look beyond skill as a organization and fill their needs. If that means dealing one of their 1st overall picks then so be it.
- Bieksa#3



Eberle for Raymond
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:38 PM ET
What The F*** Facts‏@WhatTheFFacts1m
In 2011, a German insurance company arranged an "orgy" to appreciate the performance of its employees.

High returns with ASSets

That is really thinking outside the box
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:38 PM ET
Except he would be the toughest d man on our team. Somebody to clear the front of the net.
- manvanfan



I'm not too familiar with how tough he is(over the years it seems like most of the tough guys the Canucks always bring are not as tough as we thought). 68 hits in 51 games last year, 13 hits in 16 games this year. He does drop the gloves, but I'm not too sure that he'd be a physical presence. Alberts has averaged 2+ hits per game the last 3 seasons. But if I'm Gillis, I claim him and waive Barker.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Mar 23 @ 2:38 PM ET
Big guy that can play 15 min a night and kick azz.

Thats really all there is with him.

he'd be a decent 6/7 guy and a better price than Alberts or Ballard and tougher than Barker.

I'd be ok with

Hamhuis/Bieksa
Edler/Tanev
Garrison/Bickell

going forward
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Mar 23 @ 2:40 PM ET
A one pm west coast start... whaaa? Is KISS playing tonight or something?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:41 PM ET
Big guy that can play 15 min a night and kick azz.

Thats really all there is with him.

he'd be a decent 6/7 guy and a better price than Alberts or Ballard and tougher than Barker.

I'd be ok with

Hamhuis/Bieksa
Edler/Tanev
Garrison/Bickell

going forward

- IanEsplen


This is the big key here, plus he's a RHD. I would never pay my 7th d-man more than 800K if I were a GM, let alone 4+ million dollars for my 3rd pairing guy. IMO this team has no use for Barker, and Bickel could be a cheaper 7th d-man moving forward than Alberts.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:41 PM ET
Canucks are the Best

How much have I had to drink?

- VANTEL

Ease up on the Palm Bays, friend.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:41 PM ET
3-0 Ott over TB 1 st period .

Good pick up on the Goalie Stevie Y
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 23 @ 2:41 PM ET
Eberle for Raymond
- VANTEL

I suggested Yaks and perhaps something else for the Schenn boys and the oilers fans went on a rant about how they have the 5 greatest players under 24 in NHL history. Except huge B, he was onboard
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:42 PM ET
Claiming players off of waivers is not something a .500 team does to become elite, it's what an elite team does to add depth. In very few cases a waiver pickup has been able to contribute significantly. Off the top of my head, I can only think of one (Gelinas), but I'm sure there are others.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:42 PM ET
Ease up on the Palm Bays, friend.
- Marwood

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:43 PM ET
I suggested Yaks and perhaps something else for the Schenn boys and the oilers fans went on a rant about how they have the 5 greatest players under 24 in NHL history. Except huge B, he was onboard
- Bieksa#3



I am fine with them drafting first line players and ignoring the balance of the rest of the team . It means one less team we need to worry about
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:45 PM ET
Claiming players off of waivers is not something a .500 team does to become elite, it's what an elite team does to add depth. In very few cases a waiver pickup has been able to contribute significantly. Off the top of my head, I can only think of one (Gelinas), but I'm sure there are others.
- 1970vintage



So are we down with this?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 23 @ 2:46 PM ET
3-0 Ott over TB 1 st period .

Good pick up on the Goalie Stevie Y

- VANTEL


Lindback is hurt, Garon is not good, we'll see how Desjardins does...
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 23 @ 2:47 PM ET
3-0 Ott over TB 1 st period .

Good pick up on the Goalie Stevie Y

- VANTEL

Paul Maclean should win coach of the yr hands down

Tampa clearly needs help in net and presuming the leafs play their standard game against the bruins in the next 2 games, Mr no nuts might start sweating it out for a goalie as well
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