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IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:20 AM ET
Ian Esplen: Shanny and Gameday Shanny and Gameday
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
Ian Esplen: Shanny and Gameday
Shanny and Gameday

- IanEsplen



completely agree with the less than consistent handling of suspension/non-suspensions.

I am surprised that being in the western conference you didn't include any one of the plethora of Kronwall non-suspendable offenses as additional video evidence. He gets away with because he goes into the hits butt first... but they are still blind side and in many instances charging.

Edler did no worse than Lucic on Miller. Miller, in the Lucic hit case, still had the presence of mind to swing his stick at Lucic, even though he was terribly injured ... a two or a five for charging was more than enough.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:32 AM ET

- Boinker


nice job on the inserted email.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
Vancouver and Toronto on the same page?

This smells of doom for the NHL if we can get Montreal on board.


Canada unite

Together we can take down this bush league
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:42 AM ET


We can complain all we want about the edler suspension but if someone did that to Lu/Schnied id want them suspended for the season. We would all be on here b!tch!ng that he only got 2 games.
- Bluechip23




No one questions if it deserved attention or not . Shanny ,was once again inconsistent . Nash did not get called up to the office because NYR the biggest market are in the hunt for a playoff spot. His hit had a lot more intent than Edlers or Hansen.

Nash's hit was identical to Lupuls and should have had at least 3 games .

I really want Ian to include this in his next blog and discuss who is really handing out the suspensions. Shanny is a mere poster boy,

Jeremey Jacobs and the Bruins are in charge of discipline. Look at the track record of what they do and their punishment compared to if someone else does something to them (Aaron Rome) and the punishment.

Shanny for a while was becoming aggressive with his punishments and got called into the office and told to settle down,

Shanny as a player had balls , as a dean of discipline he is a gutless puppet who is told what to do if he wants a paycheck. Just another sign of who runs the NHL






VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
Should Nash request to sit out two games to save face for the NHL?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:46 AM ET
completely agree with the less than consistent handling of suspension/non-suspensions.

I am surprised that being in the western conference you didn't include any one of the plethora of Kronwall non-suspendable offenses as additional video evidence. He gets away with because he goes into the hits butt first... but they are still blind side and in many instances charging.

Edler did no worse than Lucic on Miller. Miller, in the Lucic hit case, still had the presence of mind to swing his stick at Lucic, even though he was terribly injured ... a two or a five for charging was more than enough.

- BorjeFan4Ever



I hope Kronwall gets Pongered one day
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:48 AM ET
Vancouver and Toronto on the same page?

This smells of doom for the NHL if we can get Mountreal on board.


Canada unite

Together we can take down this bush league

- IanEsplen



Montreal . Usually I overlook this but it is like spelling your kids name wrong .
KingsFan30
Los Angeles Kings
Location: the place where andy dick isn't, CA
Joined: 12.09.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:50 AM ET
you forgot that david booth is out as well. need to check up on your injured players...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:50 AM ET
What The F*** Facts‏@WhatTheFFacts4m
George Washington used to grow cannabis in his garden and he was the owner of the largest whiskey distillery in the U.S.


Does this mean Bloated would make an excellent president?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
you forgot that david booth is out as well. need to check up on your injured players...
- KingsFan30



We don't count him anymore , like Willie Mitchell
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 23 @ 11:53 AM ET
Ian Esplen: Shanny and Gameday
Shanny and Gameday

- IanEsplen


I fully agree on Shanny's bias and inconsistency. And what makes it worse is that it gets pinned on Shanny, but there is actually a commitee that discusses it. The rulings are terrible.

Nash got away with it because as you said...It's Nash. Just like other players that get preferential treatment. Weber has gotten away with a number of suspensions. Because its Weber and it's Nashville...

The rulings are a joke. The explanations are a joke. The explanations actually make it even worse, because they completely ignore the rules and the video evidence in most cases.

It's really, really pathetic.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:53 AM ET
you forgot that david booth is out as well. need to check up on your injured players...
- KingsFan30


Yah, Vancouver is sure going to miss him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
I fully agree on Shanny's bias and inconsistency. And what makes it worse is that it gets pinned on Shanny, but there is actually a commitee that discusses it. The rulings are terrible.

Nash got away with it because as you said...It's Nash. Just like other players that get preferential treatment. Weber has gotten away with a number of suspensions. Because its Weber and it's Nashville...

The rulings are a joke. The explanations are a joke. The explanations actually make it even worse, because they completely ignore the rules and the video evidence in most cases.

It's really, really pathetic.

- Iggysbff



This is a day to remember . Canucks Leafs and Oilers agreeing
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:55 AM ET
I fully agree on Shanny's bias and inconsistency. And what makes it worse is that it gets pinned on Shanny, but there is actually a commitee that discusses it. The rulings are terrible.

Nash got away with it because as you said...It's Nash. Just like other players that get preferential treatment. Weber has gotten away with a number of suspensions. Because its Weber and it's Nashville...

The rulings are a joke. The explanations are a joke. The explanations actually make it even worse, because they completely ignore the rules and the video evidence in most cases.

It's really, really pathetic.

- Iggysbff


Me and Iggy on the same page.

The world must be coming to an end soon.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
Just listening to the explanation from Shanaban on Nash makes you sick
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Mar 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
This is a day to remember . Canucks Leafs and Oilers agreeing
- VANTEL



Anyone know where Shanny lives?

lets all go light dog poop on fire and egg his house.

Who's in?
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
I fully agree on Shanny's bias and inconsistency. And what makes it worse is that it gets pinned on Shanny, but there is actually a commitee that discusses it. The rulings are terrible.

Nash got away with it because as you said...It's Nash. Just like other players that get preferential treatment. Weber has gotten away with a number of suspensions. Because its Weber and it's Nashville...

The rulings are a joke. The explanations are a joke. The explanations actually make it even worse, because they completely ignore the rules and the video evidence in most cases.

It's really, really pathetic.

- Iggysbff


It's also, because it's the Rangers and they're on the outside, looking in. I wonder if it would have been different, if the Rangers were 10 points up, in the standings? This smells of league nepotism.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:58 AM ET
Just listening to the explanation from Shanaban on Nash makes you sick
- nbboy



Would you not respect the NHL more if Shanny just came out and said "Rangers are the biggest market and in a playoff race ,we can not suspend their best scorer at this time."
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 23 @ 11:59 AM ET
It's also, because it's the Rangers and they're on the outside, looking in. I wonder if it would have been different, if the Rangers were 10 points up, in the standings? This smells of league nepotism.
- PrinceLH


100%

They think we are idiots
KingsFan30
Los Angeles Kings
Location: the place where andy dick isn't, CA
Joined: 12.09.2010

Mar 23 @ 12:00 PM ET
We don't count him anymore , like Willie Mitchell
- VANTEL


mitchell is a mystery... which is different than booth. we all know where booth is, unlike mitchie...
KingsFan30
Los Angeles Kings
Location: the place where andy dick isn't, CA
Joined: 12.09.2010

Mar 23 @ 12:00 PM ET
Just listening to the explanation from Shanaban on Nash makes you sick
- nbboy

actually that was rob blake explaining not shanahan
itsalwaysfunny
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 23 @ 12:03 PM ET

We can complain all we want about the edler suspension but if someone did that to Lu/Schnied id want them suspended for the season. We would all be on here b!tch!ng that he only got 2 games.
- Bluechip23




No one questions if it deserved attention or not . Shanny ,was once again inconsistent . Nash did not get called up to the office because NYR the biggest market are in the hunt for a playoff spot. His hit had a lot more intent than Edlers or Hansen.

Nash's hit was identical to Lupuls and should have had at least 3 games .

I really want Ian to include this in his next blog and discuss who is really handing out the suspensions. Shanny is a mere poster boy,

Jeremey Jacobs and the Bruins are in charge of discipline. Look at the track record of what they do and their punishment compared to if someone else does something to them (Aaron Rome) and the punishment.

Shanny for a while was becoming aggressive with his punishments and got called into the office and told to settle down,

Shanny as a player had balls , as a dean of discipline he is a gutless puppet who is told what to do if he wants a paycheck. Just another sign of who runs the NHL

- VANTEL



I'm not sure what hits you were watching, but those were in no way identical.

I was at the leaf game that night and right away I said Lupul will get suspended for that hit. Hedman was standing straight up and for a pretty tall guy he still took a shoulder to the chin.

As much as I agree that the league has been inconsistent, I really didn't see Nash's hit being that bad.

People see a helmet fall off and think a hit is worse than it is. Did he make contact with his head, yes, but not until after he had made principal contact to his upper back.

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Mar 23 @ 12:04 PM ET
I think that the first thing the NHL needs to do is remove injury as a factor in determining punishment. In the Nash case, Kopecky is pretty lucky that he did not sustain any head trauma when his helmet came off. What if the angle had been just a bit different and the force of Nash coming down on him had driven his head into the ice and he had sustained a career ending head injury? The plays are no different, but the results are drastically different. That's what makes this all look like such a coin flip.

I agree, the video for Edler's hit basically says that he didn't mean to hurt him, the head was not the principle point of contact (or a target) but that it was a penalty as Edler did not try to avoid the collision. Should have been 0 games based on this video.

I wonder is Smith will start in net the next time Phoenix plays, they aren't on until Monday, with no travel...?
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