I didn't have an issue with signing Foster. When he's played he hasn't been any worse than Coburn has.
- PLindbergh31

I would disagree that he hasn't been any worse then Coburn. Play Foster in the same spot and same role that Coburn is in. See what happens.

What was Meszaros' injury history before he came to the Flyers?

Yikes, Mesz and that damn glass shoulder again. Not good.

What did he bump into this time?
- wolfhounds

I wonder if Mez was ever truly right in the first place when he came back. He was brutal. I'm fine with sitting him at this point.

I would disagree that he hasn't been any worse then Coburn. Play Foster in the same spot and same role that Coburn is in. See what happens.
- MJL

They would probably be in last place in the Division if that happened.

And pay him 2M a year, with the Flyers having 3M available in cap space right now for next year. But he's advocating firing Holmgren.
- MJL

Well you know best, you're the next GM and everything. Oh.. you're not?

You're wrong daily, you just refuse to acknowledge it.

And if they do win, then what? The Pens trading a first round pick which will be at the very end of the round isn't a big deal. The prospects they gave up by all accounts are fringe type players.
- PLindbergh31

My point is that the gave up assets, all be it not great ones, for veterans that were meant to help for one push. They gave up 1st,two 2nds and three prospects of varying ability....still alot and my estimation for one run

What was Meszaros' injury history before he came to the Flyers?
- PLindbergh31

He was actually rather durable when he was in Ottawa and played 81 games in each of 2009-2010 and 2010 - 2011.

They would probably be in last place in the Division if that happened.
- PLindbergh31

Well since Foster is as good as Coburn is. Problem solved. Trade Coburn, and re-sign Foster to a long term deal, to replace Coburn. Done deal!

So we're almost at our cap limit... we need a first line winger.. a #1 dman... a #5 and #6 dman... and some capable 4th liners...

All that with 3 million?

I wonder if Mez was ever truly right in the first place when he came back. He was brutal. I'm fine with sitting him at this point.
- johndewar

is Mez now on the list on possible off season buy outs I gather

I would disagree that he hasn't been any worse then Coburn. Play Foster in the same spot and same role that Coburn is in. See what happens.
- MJL

*cringe*

No thanks.

What do you think about Myers from Buffalo? You think he can be had by the flyers?

do you think a couturier for myers deal can be done?
- Philly1980

Possibly. I have two issues with Myers. First, his play has declined each year, since his rookie year. There will be peaks and valleys with any young player, especially a defenseman. But Myers had a great rookie year, then a good second season, then a decent third year, where he missed time an this year he's been all over the place. It's a trend I'm not crazy about.

The other issue is his contract. If he turns into Braydon Coburn, that contract will look terrible.

All that said, he's the kind of buy low guy the Flyers might have to look at, unless they can draft a good defenseman or two.

My point is that the gave up assets, all be it not great ones, for veterans that were meant to help for one push. They gave up 1st,two 2nds and three prospects of varying ability....still alot and my estimation for one run
- nonpoint22

They gave up assets for a Hall of Fame player in Iginla. Granted he's not at the same level anymore, but he's still a damned good player. Holmgren gave away assets last year for Kubina's corpse.

Well since Foster is as good as Coburn is. Problem solved. Trade Coburn, and re-sign Foster to a long term deal, to replace Coburn. Done deal!
- MJL

I don't recall him saying Foster was as good as Coburn. Why do you troll so hard?

is Mez now on the list on possible off season buy outs I gather
- nonpoint22

Maybe, but I wouldn't do it. Love his skill set when he is right, physically.

*cringe*

No thanks.
- johndewar

You think?

What was Meszaros' injury history before he came to the Flyers?
- PLindbergh31

He was actually pretty much an ironman. Had one year out of six where he missed more than one game.

A stiff wind.
- Jsaquella

Philadelphia wind off the Delaware is known to attack old ladies and hockey players with chronic shoulder issues. He should have been more careful.

He was actually rather durable when he was in Ottawa and played 81 games in each of 2009-2010 and 2010 - 2011.
- johndewar

Healthy until he gets here. More bad luck. At what point when something happens constantly does it shift from luck to trend?

Possibly. I have two issues with Myers. First, his play has declined each year, since his rookie year. There will be peaks and valleys with any young player, especially a defenseman. But Myers had a great rookie year, then a good second season, then a decent third year, where he missed time an this year he's been all over the place. It's a trend I'm not crazy about.

The other issue is his contract. If he turns into Braydon Coburn, that contract will look terrible.

All that said, he's the kind of buy low guy the Flyers might have to look at, unless they can draft a good defenseman or two.
- Jsaquella

I think it fills needs for both teams..

Not really a huge set back. They can't afford to draft superstars at this point with all the huge contracts they have.

There wasn't a point in trading for iggy and morrow, but I would have understood Murray. To test out if he would be a fit for next year instead of signing people they don't know will fit or not.
- Flyersgod

This makes no sense. You realize the NHL has a salary cap now, right? In order to remain relevant for years, you have to be able to draft really well. Any team is capable of drafting superstars, whether the team has huge contracts or not, because these "superstars", i.e. rookies, are on entry-level-contracts--which at the most is under one million dollars. Furthermore, ELC's are three year deals--so a team has really three years to decide on these "superstars" or not. If they like them, chances are the veterans, those who have the huge contracts, are able to be shipped out. If not, these "superstars" would have to go, meaning that if they are top-level talent, the team is going to get a nice return.

This is instrumental for ever single team in the NHL nowadays--but hell, even before the salary cap world--you had teams like the Red Wings and Devils just have fantastic scouting teams doing great things for them.

As for your second point, you're completely missing our side of the argument. In order to pick up Murray from the Sharks you would have to give something up for him, obviously. Since Murray is a free agent, and there is only 15 games left, there's no point in trading assets for him.

It would beat it like Mike Tyson beat Michael Spinks.

Two unsigned NCAA guys. Agostino isn't a bad prospect, but he's a third liner at best. Pesky guy, pain in the ass. Kind of like Cousins, but no where near as highly regarded.

The other kid is kind of like Tye McGinn from the scant info I have seen on him. Would have to be a situational top 6 guy, because he's not suited for a defensive line role.

IMO, they'll likely get a better player with the pick
- Jsaquella

Honestly with a list of 4 teams (and apparently only 3 submitted trade offers) and the fact even tho there was a list of 4 teams, Iginla vetoed a move to Boston, there was only so much Calgary could get.

the timing to Briere's concussion is just so (frank)ing frustrating! so is it worth keeping Briere for one more season and see how next year goes knowing you can always amnesty him next summer as well? maybe at the deadline next year they could move him (if he of course waives the NMC).

So we're almost at our cap limit... we need a first line winger.. a #1 dman... a #5 and #6 dman... and some capable 4th liners...

All that with 3 million?
- Flyersgod

Going into next year where chances are we dont sign any of are UFA's and probably two buyouts including Briere which is another 6.5 mil cap hit...My question is in two years when B.Schenn,Giroux, and Coots are all RFA and Read is UFA.... We may lose Timonen's hit, but I dont think the cap is going up that much...

No. There are many problems the Flyers have--from top to bottom--getting Douglas Murray and Jerome Iginla would not be the answer, and frankly, would probably be more detrimental.
- KGBflyers10

When did i say to get Iggy?

You comment my posts without even reading my original post? So you really just disagree with everything I say regardless of what my point was?

Yup.. sounds like hockeybuzz.

Healthy until he gets here. More bad luck. At what point when something happens constantly does it shift from luck to trend?
- PLindbergh31

They have to figure out if they can fix that shoulder, and how to do it. It puts the Flyers in a tough spot. Defense has holes as it is. If they rely on him, and he can't hold up, that's a big issue.