flyler
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Location: LA, CA Joined: 05.23.2008
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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here's a question...do you buy out Meszaros? - sarmen25
Nope. Buying out a guy with one year left on his deal is a waste of a compliance buyout. |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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While I wouldn't lose sleep if they replaced Holmgren, overall I think he's done a good job
-his rebuild of the 06-07 disaster was fantastic, did anyone think in June of 2007 that the Flyers would be conference finalists the following year?
-The Pronger deal was a good deal, there was no way anyone could have predicted Pronger taking a puck to his eye to end his career. Yes he was 34 at the time of the deal, but so what. He was one of the top 3 defenseman in the game at that point and the Flyers NEVER come within 2 games of a cup in 2010 without him.
-The Bryz contract to me is on Sniders head, not Holmgrens, Snider forced him into that deal
While you can certainly fault him for the lack of D, its hard to blame him when Suter supposedly signed for less in Minnesota and Nashville matched a contract that most experts thought they could never afford to match. Personally, I'm glad he didn't resign Carle to a huge deal and by the time the Weber offer fell through, he didn't have a lot of options.
While I do fault him for failing to acquire an adequate backup goalie and a legit 4th line center who can win a faceoff once in a while, I think overall he has earned the right to be given at least one more season to see if he can right the ship. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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here's a question...do you buy out Meszaros? - sarmen25
If he's deemed healthy, I strongly consider it. With the caveat that there has to be a solid plan in place to replace him. But first I'd try and trade him. |
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flyler
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: LA, CA Joined: 05.23.2008
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- BulliesPhan87
The problem with this image is it suggests we are at a high point now... |
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sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 03.09.2006
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Can't if he's hurt. - Marc D
if that's the case, we probably wont be able to buy out briere either...
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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great so pittsburgh cashes in again while holmgren does nothing to move players |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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I hate that we suck this year, but this team can be likened to the Habs last year. Look at how getting their top dman Markov back has helped that team. I think the young core is solid, and Bryz has been just fine IMO. We get a top pick, a top dman somehow, and I think we are back in business. Homer can't strike out this summer on replacing Pronger..however. - Hextall271
It's an interesting analogy. Bergevin's done a great job so far. Even his trade of Cole for Ryder's been a good one for the Habs |
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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees Joined: 03.28.2008
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I'd trade Hartnell for Edler right now. I'd do it even if they had traded Read for Bouwmeester.
Doubt Vancouver or Winnipeg would do it, but those guys would be good additions to the Flyers - Jsaquella
I saw the Canucks blogger list guys he wanted for their team.
Hartnell was on the list, with about ten other unrealistic names.
Plus Hartnell with the Sedins could work (in theory).
Made me think about Edler. |
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sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 03.09.2006
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Nope. Buying out a guy with one year left on his deal is a waste of a compliance buyout. - Jsaquella
but the compliance buy out can only be used this off-season, correct?
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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if that's the case, we probably wont be able to buy out briere either... - sarmen25
He'd have to simply be cleared to play. For all we know it's a mild concussion and he'll be back soon. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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but the compliance buy out can only be used this off-season, correct? - sarmen25
No. This year and next |
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BulliesPhan87
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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I will be in Warminster, drinking cold beer and laughing at all the poor bastard Comcast guys who didn't think ahead and have to work the worst weekend in the world.
The last few Memorial day weekends, I have piled up 14 & 16 hour days like crazy. I'm drinking beer and watching baseball this year - Jsaquella
Right about now, drinking beer and watching baseball sounds amazing. Hell, I'd pay good money just to drink one beer out in the sun in warm weather right now. |
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They will be UFAs this summer, as will Jagr. Make the pitch then, why trade assets? - Jsaquella
we have already been trading assets for players "rights" several times.. so we get first dibbs to resign them..
we have even flipped a players rights when we couldnt resign them and gotten assets back (from pens) if memory serves me right.
this is no different. |
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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees Joined: 03.28.2008
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Any ideas of trading Coburn for picks and prospects are out the window with Mez's health a question mark.
Just have to hope he gets spotted in a better role and bounces back next season. |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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I saw the Canucks blogger list guys he wanted for their team.
Hartnell was on the list, with about ten other unrealistic names.
Plus Hartnell with the Sedins could work (in theory).
Made me think about Edler. - Marc D
Yeah, hartnell with the twins would be a good line.
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flyler
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: LA, CA Joined: 05.23.2008
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I hate that we suck this year, but this team can be likened to the Habs last year. Look at how getting their top dman Markov back has helped that team. I think the young core is solid, and Bryz has been just fine IMO. We get a top pick, a top dman somehow, and I think we are back in business. Homer can't strike out this summer on replacing Pronger..however. - Hextall271
I always say look at Anaheim. They went from good to suck and are now doing pretty good. Almost the same players with minor changes (including yes a coaching change). It is amazing how much a couple of bad games or a bad start, or key injuries, can swing a season. Especially a shortened one. |
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Any ideas of trading Coburn for picks and prospects are out the window with Mez's health a question mark.
Just have to hope he gets spotted in a better role and bounces back next season. - Marc D
So what's the Easter Bunny bringing you? |
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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we have already been trading assets for players "rights" several times.. so we get first dibbs to resign them..
we have even flipped a players rights when we couldnt resign them and gotten assets back (from pens) if memory serves me right.
this is no different. - MrBigglesworth
Yes, and that's a practice that I dislike. Besides, if they traded a 1st rounder for Iginla and he didn't re-sign, you think they could trade him at the draft for a first rounder? |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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if that's the case, we probably wont be able to buy out briere either... - sarmen25
I'm willing to bet Briere is fine by the end of the season. It is much better for him financially to be bought out and become a free agent. He is only scheduled to make 5 million in actual salary the next to years. If he gets bought out, he gets around 3.3 million over the next 4 years, plus I'm pretty sure he will get at least a 2 year 5 million deal from someone. So basically if he gets bought out he will probably make an additional 3.3 million. |
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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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but the compliance buy out can only be used this off-season, correct? - sarmen25
This year and next off season too. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Nope. Buying out a guy with one year left on his deal is a waste of a compliance buyout. - Jsaquella
Especially when you have Bryzgalov's contract. Gotta save one buyout to use on him in 2014 if necessary. |
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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So what's the Easter Bunny bringing you? - PLindbergh31
hopefully some dtaft picks and maybe a prospect |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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Right about now, drinking beer and watching baseball sounds amazing. Hell, I'd pay good money just to drink one beer out in the sun in warm weather right now. - BulliesPhan87
I'd pay to simply have a beer. I am stir crazy |
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Any ideas of trading Coburn for picks and prospects are out the window with Mez's health a question mark.
Just have to hope he gets spotted in a better role and bounces back next season. - Marc D
no it's not just trade him and bring up some scrub from the AHL and draft someone and suck until you have a proper team and coach to play with |
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