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robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 7 @ 7:37 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: Should the Oilers Intentionally Lose?
- Maxbone




Shut up.


KingBD
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 12.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 7:37 AM ET
Thank god we have Michael Stuart blogging for the Lightning, I've been reading Garbage on this site for years, But this is Horrible.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 7 @ 7:39 AM ET
I think the ship is going to sail either way. The future isn't so bright. Jerrod is already getting more shifts than Hemsky. Potter as much as Nick. I think this will continue until all we see is brown and smyth.
- bsteinley

Hemsky had more ice time than Smithson and since Hemsky does not kill penalties, the 5 they had meant smithson got a couple minutes more ice than he would have while hemsky sat. You seriously do not know a whole lot about the team do ya???
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 7 @ 7:43 AM ET
This team proves that #1 picks mean nothing if you always have a loser mentality...and Ryan Smythe.
- LAKingsfan626

And you prove that after your team finally wins a cup after 45 years in the league and you being a fan of hockey for maybe 5 years tops, that all it takes is one cup for it to make you think you know dik (frank) all about hockey. I have seen Point Break about 16 times, guess I am an expert on surfing now EH.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Apr 7 @ 7:45 AM ET
Sorry but other than the last 10 games or so, I thought they did.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 7 @ 7:51 AM ET
Sorry but other than the last 10 games or so, I thought they did.
- walshyleafsfan

You are probably right. Still, not as bad as intentionally losing since 1967.
B_A_Baracus
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Hockey Abiss that is the U
Joined: 01.12.2006

Apr 7 @ 7:51 AM ET
Yes, they should lose on purpose, why stop at 6 years??
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 7 @ 7:55 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: Should the Oilers Intentionally Lose?
- Maxbone




I want a new oilers blogger.


ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 7 @ 7:55 AM ET
Yes, they should lose on purpose, why stop at 6 years??
- B_A_Baracus

Agreed. How many more years till they get to the same amount of losing years as the Casucks? I know they are at 42 or 43 so bout another 20 to go for the Oil I suppose.
bdashaw
Joined: 07.06.2012

Apr 7 @ 8:05 AM ET
You have to be one of the biggest idiots I have ever seen blog. The Oilers need to learn to play hard every night. Fat to often they take nights off and now you want to teach them to tank? You always write how good and young they are.....bullcrap. Being young is no excuse for losing as Kane and Teows were barely legal drinking age when they lead the Hawks to the cup. Time for the baby Oilers to grow up and play hard not lay down.
seanjohn667
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 10.25.2012

Apr 7 @ 8:11 AM ET
no way the Oil should lose on purpose. just play out as hard as they can, then trade the 12 pick + for a player.

but, I agree with Clouts on the last big paragraph. the superkids have masked bad management and kept the fans intrigued. Oilers's management have done a half-assed job on every acquisition, always late, never getting a good enough player, and missing out on players moves they should have been in on. the bottom line is Tambo has not made a single deal that has actually improved the team. this summer better be impressive or he had better be skidded.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Apr 7 @ 8:12 AM ET
You have to be one of the biggest idiots I have ever seen blog. The Oilers need to learn to play hard every night. Fat to often they take nights off and now you want to teach them to tank? You always write how good and young they are.....bullcrap. Being young is no excuse for losing as Kane and Teows were barely legal drinking age when they lead the Hawks to the cup. Time for the baby Oilers to grow up and play hard not lay down.
- bdashaw

yeah kane and toews were both 22 when they won the cup, seeing as hall is only 21, ebs 22, rnh and yaks are both 19 then they have until next year or the year after to win the cup???
ernmerica
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 05.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:31 AM ET
This franchise is a joke
bdashaw
Joined: 07.06.2012

Apr 7 @ 8:33 AM ET
yeah kane and toews were both 22 when they won the cup, seeing as hall is only 21, ebs 22, rnh and yaks are both 19 then they have until next year or the year after to win the cup???
- ruttager17



Perhaps they will win...but you need to have them play hard and develop leadership and that does not happen by laying down for a better pick. And BTW...they better win soon or they will al want to get paid and with the hard cap the Oilers have some tough choices to make in the future.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 7 @ 8:37 AM ET
Oilers fans and posters on this site should tank the rest of this season so you can draft a better blogger.

You guys and this team deserve better than this bi-polar, bandwagon blogger.

Win 3 games......oilers are cup contenders

Lose 2 games.......tank for draft picks

JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Apr 7 @ 8:50 AM ET
no, they should not intentionally lose. Are you really that ignorant?

(I read the title of the blog and that's it)
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Apr 7 @ 8:57 AM ET
This franchise is a joke
- ernmerica


Edmonton is much better during this rebuild than Pittsburgh was. PGH was so bad that they were declaring bankruptcy, couldn't pay Lemieux his owed salary for several years, and they were pretty close to the records for fewest wins and worst record in an NHL season ever. The team really would have moved if it weren't for Lemieux offering to take ownership shares rather than salary dollars and you WON A LOTTERY to get Sidney.

The Penguins, honestly, actually WERE a joke then.

The problem I have with most (not all) Penguins fans is that you are all too young to realized all of this so you just get the cocky part, and not the humility part.

Penguins fans should especially appreciate what the Oilers are doing. You basically just told us that you are under 20yrs old. and have only been a Pens fan for a few years. Who will be your team in 5yrs? Probably the Oilers. lol
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 7 @ 9:05 AM ET
yeah kane and toews were both 22 when they won the cup, seeing as hall is only 21, ebs 22, rnh and yaks are both 19 then they have until next year or the year after to win the cup???
- ruttager17

Umm you might wanna lay of the emotions little fella. Kane was 21 when he won the cup. When the play offs started in 08-09 Kane and Toews were 20 and 21 and they went to the conferance finals. RNH will be 20 in a week. I think the Oilers have a great young core. However if you are suggesting that it is anywhere close to the Pens young core in 08-09 or the hawks core then you sir are as big of idiot as Cloutier
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Apr 7 @ 9:07 AM ET
Edmonton is much better during this rebuild than Pittsburgh was. PGH was so bad that they were declaring bankruptcy, couldn't pay Lemieux his owed salary for several years, and they were pretty close to the records for fewest wins and worst record in an NHL season ever. The team really would have moved if it weren't for Lemieux offering to take ownership shares rather than salary dollars and you WON A LOTTERY to get Sidney.

The Penguins, honestly, actually WERE a joke then.

The problem I have with most (not all) Penguins fans is that you are all too young to realized all of this so you just get the cocky part, and not the humility part.

Penguins fans should especially appreciate what the Oilers are doing. You basically just told us that you are under 20yrs old. and have only been a Pens fan for a few years. Who will be your team in 5yrs? Probably the Oilers. lol

- JLO961

I get your point but the core Pitts put together during there tank yrs makes edms laughable
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Apr 7 @ 9:13 AM ET
You are probably right. Still, not as bad as intentionally losing since 1967.
- ruttager17

Does that include eastern conference finals?
ernmerica
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 05.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 9:17 AM ET
Edmonton is much better during this rebuild than Pittsburgh was. PGH was so bad that they were declaring bankruptcy, couldn't pay Lemieux his owed salary for several years, and they were pretty close to the records for fewest wins and worst record in an NHL season ever. The team really would have moved if it weren't for Lemieux offering to take ownership shares rather than salary dollars and you WON A LOTTERY to get Sidney.

The Penguins, honestly, actually WERE a joke then.

The problem I have with most (not all) Penguins fans is that you are all too young to realized all of this so you just get the cocky part, and not the humility part.

Penguins fans should especially appreciate what the Oilers are doing. You basically just told us that you are under 20yrs old. and have only been a Pens fan for a few years. Who will be your team in 5yrs? Probably the Oilers. lol

- JLO961



I feel for Edmonton and like their young players but at some point the players are going to need to grow a pair and sacrifice. Pittsburgh perhaps was a laughing stock for a while as was Chicago but after Sid and Geno emerged, there weren't excuses that needed to be made. It seems since the lockout with 10 - 20 games, every year Oil fans excusing them for their performance when they really should be more critical. The only player worth mentioning is Hall, he has had a terrific season.

Problem with EDM is why would Hall want to resign in a culture of losers? Call me cocky or whatever, I am not under 20, I am nearly 30 but you don't see players waiving their NTC to go to the Oil. Even Gabby waived for Columbus. Ouch
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:17 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: Should the Oilers Intentionally Lose?
- Maxbone

You're supposed to be an entertainer right? Wake up and realize that no one finds this entertaining.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Apr 7 @ 9:18 AM ET
Umm you might wanna lay of the emotions little fella. Kane was 21 when he won the cup. When the play offs started in 08-09 Kane and Toews were 20 and 21 and they went to the conferance finals. RNH will be 20 in a week. I think the Oilers have a great young core. However if you are suggesting that it is anywhere close to the Pens young core in 08-09 or the hawks core then you sir are as big of idiot as Cloutier
- Bieksa#3


I agree completely that the Oilers fans look to those teams and think its a lock they'll achieve the exaxct same results.

That said, the potential is certainly there to at least be a team that can compete with the best of them even if they dont end up winning the Cup. The problem here isn't the youth or the future core. Its the incompetence and idleness of the management to surround these players with veterans like the Hawks and Pens teams did. To give them the sense the team is making a commitment to winning and will bring in veterans who can lead and take pressure off the youth.

By no means am I suggesting that the young players want to leave or will leave when their contracts are up, but if winning and going for it isn't going to be in the managements plans, it can become a very real possibility.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Apr 7 @ 9:18 AM ET
Cloutier, Didn't you say last week how excited you were that the Oilers could actually make the playoffs?? How other teams wouldn't want to play the Oilers in the first round because they could be scary.

Something along those lines is what you were ranting about & now because they fall 3pts back you want them to tank - why?? So they can draft yet another high pick??

I thought this was the year that the Oilers were wanting to add legit NHL players instead of going back into the draft to select in the top 5 or 6 or 10 to whatever.

I mean the rebuild is in year 6 Cloutier, let's face it, every since 06 the Oilers have been in rebuild because they haven't iced a competitive team since then.

You are right about one thing & that's Oilers' management is horrible, their decision making is horrible & that's maybe why they couldn't make any deals on deadline day because other GM's are a lot smarter & didn't want to touch the garbage players & give up 2nd & 3rd rd picks for leftover scraps.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Apr 7 @ 9:19 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: Should the Oilers Intentionally Lose?
- Maxbone



We all know you set up this title for controversy in blogging. Well done stupid...
The funny thing is, you probably do want your team to tank for a better pick, unfortunately is not a good sign for the players who are trying to take the next step in developing.

Oilers have loads of talent, losing is a disease, and the Oilers are close to a playoff spot, whether they make it or not, they are progressing as a unit.....
That's all you can ask for.....

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