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ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 21 @ 11:03 AM ET
Morrissey sounds like a great pick. I bet if he was bigger he would be in that top 10 range for most lists.

Weren't the same concerns about rnh grabbing his points on the power play in junior?
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

May 21 @ 11:06 AM ET
flyers are f'd cap wise - just thought id mention that!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 21 @ 11:07 AM ET
I always felt he was a good goalie who used his size and blocking style well, but thrived in a system that had defensemen push forwards outside and let him deflect rebounds to them for quick outs. He never could play the puck, but neither can 90% of the goalies in the league these days. I don't know about the Flyers these days but I always felt he was one of the safest goalies in a one vs one situation at least when he was a Coyote.
- AdamFrench


Only part that doesn't seem right to me. Bryz just can't stop break-aways or shoot-outs... almost same thing.

I can see the Flyers system being different then Phoenix, thus his erratic play, but a 1-on-1 is no different on any team, and shouldn't change this much. As one that always gives Bryz the benefit of the doubt, this actually worries me.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 21 @ 11:07 AM ET
Morrissey sounds like a great pick. I bet if he was bigger he would be in that top 10 range for most lists.

Weren't the same concerns about rnh grabbing his points on the power play in junior?

- ystoil

RNH had a lot of PP points and a lot of 5 vs 5 points, well he had a lot of points. Such great vision. It was more of an issue in his first WHL year
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 21 @ 11:07 AM ET
flyers are f'd cap wise - just thought id mention that!
- big_dion


How do you figure after the Briere buyout?
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

May 21 @ 11:12 AM ET
How do you figure after the Briere buyout?
- youarewrong

Don't mind his stupidity
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

May 21 @ 11:42 AM ET
That's Mr. Dude to you...and you can GFY, we're getting Schenn
- LeftCoaster


Solid negotiating right there.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

May 21 @ 11:59 AM ET
That's Mr. Dude to you...and you can GFY, we're getting Schenn
- LeftCoaster

I will not GFY, you Canuck loving butt-licker...I don't mind trading Schenn if we get a nice return...
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

May 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
flyers are f'd cap wise - just thought id mention that!
- big_dion

Everyone says this all the time and does it ever stop us from making sh*t happen? Hell NO!
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

May 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
How do you figure after the Briere buyout?
- youarewrong


If he's looking not to this offseason, but to next, there might be a case, since Giroux, B. Schenn, Couturier, Read, and Meszaros all come up for new deals then, but with Briere off the cap this year, Bryz off either this year or next, and Kimmo off next, we should be able to move some cash around.

Then again, we are talking about a Leafs fan, so that's almost certainly giving him too much credit.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 21 @ 12:01 PM ET
flyers are f'd cap wise - just thought id mention that!
- big_dion


How do you come to this conclusion?
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

May 21 @ 12:01 PM ET
Is it going to matter who is in net if they don't fix that?
- Lahey

S.Mason will get the job done...Book it!
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
Everyone says this all the time and does it ever stop us from making sh*t happen? Hell NO!
- Flyfreaky


This.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
If he's looking not to this offseason, but to next, there might be a case, since Giroux, B. Schenn, Couturier, Read, and Meszaros all come up for new deals then, but with Briere off the cap this year, Bryz off either this year or next, and Kimmo off next, we should be able to move some cash around.

Then again, we are talking about a Leafs fan, so that's almost certainly giving him too much credit.

- dilbert719

Mez won't get a new contract is my hunch. I've got an itching feeling that Read is so valuable as a trade asset, yet so replaceable on the roster, that it'd be hard not to use him as a strong asset in a trade. I agree with Read, Coburn, 3rd rounder for Edler and a 2nd/3rd. B Schenn, Simmonds, and the 1st rounder should stay here if it is help able.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 12:28 PM ET
Mez won't get a new contract is my hunch. I've got an itching feeling that Read is so valuable as a trade asset, yet so replaceable on the roster, that it'd be hard not to use him as a strong asset in a trade. I agree with Read, Coburn, 3rd rounder for Edler and a 2nd/3rd. B Schenn, Simmonds, and the 1st rounder should stay here if it is help able.
- JAKEw1234



I disagree that Read is so replaceable. It would be very difficult to find a player with an 800K Cap hit. That can play on any line. In any situation. On the PP, PK. A very difficult player to find.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 21 @ 12:40 PM ET
I disagree that Read is so replaceable. It would be very difficult to find a player with an 800K Cap hit. That can play on any line. In any situation. On the PP, PK. A very difficult player to find.
- MJL

In one player, yes. But he can be replaced on the PP, and he can be replaced on the PK. He is a machine, but that's part of what makes him so valuable. Plus, it's not like he's elite, or anything. He can play the 2nd PP, and the 2nd PK. I don't know if he can ever do much better, as he should just be entering his prime next season. He's more of a luxury piece than a necessity piece.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 12:43 PM ET
In one player, yes. But he can be replaced on the PP, and he can be replaced on the PK. He is a machine, but that's part of what makes him so valuable. Plus, it's not like he's elite, or anything. He can play the 2nd PP, and the 2nd PK. I don't know if he can ever do much better, as he should just be entering his prime next season. He's more of a luxury piece than a necessity piece.
- JAKEw1234



In a Cap environment, the Cap hit i a huge factor. Can't be ignored. And I couldn't disagree more with saying he's a luxury.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 21 @ 12:58 PM ET
In a Cap environment, the Cap hit i a huge factor. Can't be ignored. And I couldn't disagree more with saying he's a luxury.
- MJL

But his cap will only be that low for 1 more year. After that, the value he has because his cap is so low is all but lost. Plus, who would you rather have, Read, or Edler?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 1:00 PM ET
But his cap will only be that low for 1 more year. After that, the value he has because his cap is so low is all but lost. Plus, who would you rather have, Read, or Edler?
- JAKEw1234



That is true. I'm not saying I wouldn't trade him for Edler. I'm saying he's not a luxury, and is not easily replaceable.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

May 21 @ 1:07 PM ET
Hoping they Get Pullock. But Nurse or Ristolian would be fine too.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

May 21 @ 1:09 PM ET
Mez won't get a new contract is my hunch. I've got an itching feeling that Read is so valuable as a trade asset, yet so replaceable on the roster, that it'd be hard not to use him as a strong asset in a trade. I agree with Read, Coburn, 3rd rounder for Edler and a 2nd/3rd. B Schenn, Simmonds, and the 1st rounder should stay here if it is help able.
- JAKEw1234


If Mez comes back Healthy and in shape and gets PP time, he'll get a new contract and maybe some respect.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

May 21 @ 1:11 PM ET
I disagree that Read is so replaceable. It would be very difficult to find a player with an 800K Cap hit. That can play on any line. In any situation. On the PP, PK. A very difficult player to find.
- MJL


Lindy Ruff seemed to love Read, playing him more than Guys like Jordan Staal. Read is a gifted player and if he leaves the flyers, I see him being another Patrick Sharp type player. I also see him being a Captain at some point in the future. He speaks very well and seems to analyze the game very well.
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

May 21 @ 1:16 PM ET
First off, I do hope the Flyers end up drafting a D. We don't need anymore help up front via drafting. The main concern is D, so we should take a D. Monohan would help, but he isn't needed.

As for any hypothetical trade involving Edler would probably be based around Coburn and/or Meszaros + Read + mid pick. Just my two cents.

Anything more, and I wouldn't do it.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 21 @ 1:18 PM ET
Lindy Ruff seemed to love Read, playing him more than Guys like Jordan Staal. Read is a gifted player and if he leaves the flyers, I see him being another Patrick Sharp type player. I also see him being a Captain at some point in the future. He speaks very well and seems to analyze the game very well.
- flyler
Wel the way you describe him maybe it should be Edler + a 1st for Read
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

May 21 @ 1:19 PM ET
Also, as hard as it is to final that elusive D the Flyers are looking for, I would try and get Ryan Pulock. He may not have that all-in-one quality, or true shutdown man, but I think offensively, the Flyers could get a home-run type of player for their puck-moving and PP units.
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