This is not from me. But, Wang wants to unload that money, he is going to have to eat something.
- bixll

If he moves strome, Nino, Reinhardt, or any decent prospect for the purpose of moving his mistake him and garf will lose any positivity they had gained after last season. I could see it for a pick or Luongo just not for anything significant.

exactly...i believe the isles want to get rid of DP...any names/picks that are mentioned is pure speculation and wishful thinking...

speaking of speculation...would anyone do DP+ 2013 1st round pick?
- LetsGoIsles

Dp & the pick... for what a 7th rounder to make it legal... That would be a hard pill to swallow... but better then a prospect we have invested in

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I agree, but arguably.. 1 of our top 4 prospects (For a rebuilding team) is suicide.

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- XxNYIxX

Fine, but put yourself in the shoes of the 29 other GM's. What would it take for you to eat that buyout of RD deal. Who would you want in the deal?

I would want Strome. You would basically be paying 25 milly for him.

If he moves strome, Nino, Reinhardt, or any decent prospect for the purpose of moving his mistake him and garf will lose any positivity they had gained after last season. I could see it for a pick or Luongo just not for anything significant.
- Cptmjl

Exactly.. that is why I think this Luongo thing has legs.

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Something to talk about. From the Leafs blog.



HNIC’s Elliotte Friedman reported on Saturday’s “Hotstove Tonight” that New York has communicated to other NHL clubs that they would be willing to give assets to someone if they were willing to take Dipietro’s contract in a trade.

Dipietro is under contract until 2020-21 at a $4.5 Million annual salary and if bought out this summer, it would cost Isles owner Charles Wang $24 Million over the next 16 seasons, but if New York were willing to give something of value to make the Dipietro problem go away, like ’11 top pick and Mississauga native Ryan Strome or 2012 first rounder Griffin Reinhart for example, would it not be worth the cost to a team with deep pockets like the Leafs to make that kind of move to bring in a potential building block that has not even reached the age of 20???
- bixll

No way in hell. I'd rather watch DP sit in the AHL for the next 9 years and cost us his $4.5 on the cap than deal a stud like Reinhart or Strome away.

keaner17

Fine, but put yourself in the shoes of the 29 other GM's. What would it take for you to eat that buyout of RD deal. Who would you want in the deal?

I would want Strome. You would basically be paying 25 milly for him.
- bixll

id want Tavares, Hamonic, Strome or atleast Martin... but its nice to want things


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If he moves strome, Nino, Reinhardt, or any decent prospect for the purpose of moving his mistake him and garf will lose any positivity they had gained after last season. I could see it for a pick or Luongo just not for anything significant.
- Cptmjl

Exactly, only because you gain a big contract for a big contract.

id want Tavares, Hamonic, Strome or atleast Martin... but its nice to want things


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- XxNYIxX

But unless it is a deal for Luongo, you must get a gem in return for buying out RD.

No way in hell. I'd rather watch DP sit in the AHL for the next 9 years and cost us his $4.5 on the cap than deal a stud like Reinhart or Strome away.

keaner17
- keaner17

But what does Wang want?

Fine, but put yourself in the shoes of the 29 other GM's. What would it take for you to eat that buyout of RD deal. Who would you want in the deal?

I would want Strome. You would basically be paying 25 milly for him.
- bixll

Yep. You'd want strome and if you got him the islanders would lose half their fanbase with that trade. It would be PR suicide for the team.

Fine, but put yourself in the shoes of the 29 other GM's. What would it take for you to eat that buyout of RD deal. Who would you want in the deal?

I would want Strome. You would basically be paying 25 milly for him.
- bixll

I'm sure you would want Strome but from our perspective, you'd be asking for our 1A guy to Tavares who could stand to bring in a lot more revenue than DP's buyout expenses. It would be beyond stupid for the Isles to do this.

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But what does Wang want?
- bixll

Fack him.

Fack him.
- Cptmjl

BUt, BUt he drives this ship.

But unless it is a deal for Luongo, you must get a gem in return for buying out RD.
- bixll

im sure they would dump the last year of Komisarek back on us & its not like we cant use him, but honestly other then that first rounder.... or mid lev prospect... I will move back to L.I., sit outside that Dunkin Donuts (that kasper saw Wang) and wait day and night for him to show up so i can knee cap him, and then squat over his face & drop a Cleveland Steamer in his mouth. because that's what he would be feeding us if he moved one of those key prospects for HIS mistake.

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But what does Wang want?
- bixll

Wang wants DP to retire and take a job with the franchise..I don't know that but I'm willing to bet on it.

With the CBA, there is a recapture clause so if DP were to retire prior to the end of the contract after being traded, the Isles would be back on the hook for his salary. So the idea that we'd trade a future star like Strome while still having the risk that we get nailed for SEVERAL years of DP's full contract cost would be brutal.

Frankly, I'd play the crap out of him in the AHL until his wheels fell off and had to retire.

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BUt, BUt he drives this ship.
- bixll

Fack him anyway

Wang wants DP to retire and take a job with the franchise..I don't know that but I'm willing to bet on it.

With the CBA, there is a recapture clause so if DP were to retire prior to the end of the contract after being traded, the Isles would be back on the hook for his salary. So the idea that we'd trade a future star like Strome while still having the risk that we get nailed for SEVERAL years of DP's full contract cost would be brutal.

Frankly, I'd play the crap out of him in the AHL until his wheels fell off and had to retire.

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- keaner17

Wang is trying to find a way out of this contract. And, he will have to take on Salary of a player with salary to do so. Or, lose a big ticket item for the contract. Thats the way I see it anyway.

Wang is trying to find a way out of this contract. And, he will have to take on Salary of a player with salary to do so. Or, lose a big ticket item for the contract. Thats the way I see it anyway.
- bixll

I'm a bit skeptical of these reports when they come out. It's funny how one person surmises about Luongo for DP and assets and then suddenly rumors surface that Wang is shopping DP. The grapevine seems to have matured into a lemon plant.

Like I said, the recapture clause makes dealing DP very unlikely. The amnesty buyout is the only safe option unless you play him into his retirement.

Yykeaner17yY

I'm a bit skeptical of these reports when they come out. It's funny how one person surmises about Luongo for DP and assets and then suddenly rumors surface that Wang is shopping DP. The grapevine seems to have matured into a lemon plant.

Like I said, the recaputre clause makes dealing DP very unlikely. The amnesty buyout is the only safe option unless you play him into his retirement.

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- keaner17

But thats why they said he would be traded for the leafs or vanc to buy out.

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Sorry, these "reports" out of Canada are wishful thinking. They remind me of when Tavares all but had his bags packed to go to the Leafs once or even before his ELC was up. The way those stories went, we should have just taken a second round pick in return for dealing Tavares since he was as good as gone anyway. They're always quick to jump on scenarios that result in nothing of value for the Isles while some Canadian team gets Long Island's best players/prospects.

If it is strictly about money and only money for Wang, I think he'd look for a lifeline from Ratner/the Barclays folks long before he'd rid the team of cheap assets with a lot of bang for the buck (top prospects on ELCs).

((UIF))

Personally if it was me & I wanted to be spiteful... Id let them trade me, find out from the other team that they were going to buy me out... tell them to hold out till the end of camp & ill retire.
Isles would lose whatever they traded & still be on the hook for the contract.

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Something to talk about. From the Leafs blog.



HNIC’s Elliotte Friedman reported on Saturday’s “Hotstove Tonight” that New York has communicated to other NHL clubs that they would be willing to give assets to someone if they were willing to take Dipietro’s contract in a trade.

Dipietro is under contract until 2020-21 at a $4.5 Million annual salary and if bought out this summer, it would cost Isles owner Charles Wang $24 Million over the next 16 seasons, but if New York were willing to give something of value to make the Dipietro problem go away, like ’11 top pick and Mississauga native Ryan Strome or 2012 first rounder Griffin Reinhart for example, would it not be worth the cost to a team with deep pockets like the Leafs to make that kind of move to bring in a potential building block that has not even reached the age of 20???
- bixll

All that is to me is the Canadian media stirring up one of the biggest fan bases with a complete hypothetical scenario.

All that is to me is the Canadian media stirring up one of the biggest fan bases with a complete hypothetical scenario.
- eichiefs9

Fine,

Hey this stirred up more talk than Dee's blog.

But thats why they said he would be traded for the leafs or vanc to buy out.

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- XxNYIxX

In the case of Vancouver, it could work in an even up trade scheme (as a last resort for them) based on the idea that a buyout of DP is shorter and cheaper than a buyout of Lou. I honestly don't believe anyone is going to take on Lou's contract and he'll be an amnesty buyout himself.

That said, the Isles could play hardball here and tell Vancouver, "We're saving you $4 million a year by allowing you to buyout DP rather than Lou, so the trade is even up or maybe we throw in someone like Lee or even Hickey."
It certainly wouldn't take Strome to make it happen.

The other issue is, I don't think a player who gets traded after the CBA can be included as an amnesty buyout.

The matter makes sense for Toronto and Vancouver, but NOT the Isles.


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How do we not have a new blog about this yet????

I hope Dee is ok!!



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