Word on the street was that Holmgren felt there was a deal to be done. I never saw any factual information that stated that a deal was in place.
- MJL

And are you normally privy to this type of information?

I'm thinking it is going to be 4 @ $5.5. This will put him at the same age as Kimmo when his contract ends next year. He isn't quite the player Kimmo has been, but would argue he is an upgrade to Carle. Would have liked to have him when the Islanders got him. I'm thinking:

Kimmo - Coburn
Streit - Schenn
Grossman - Gus/Mez

The following year Kimmo is gone, Gus has another year under his belt, and Mez or Gus plays with Coburn.
- section32

Gawd, I hope it isn't 4 years. I'd prefer less years and a bigger cap hit like 2 yrs at $6M per but I think it will be 3 at 5.5 just because it's a compromise between the two extremes.

I agree with putting Streit on the 2nd pairing to keep him from other team's top lines while still giving him plenty of TOI to utilize his puck moving skills.

I'm thinking it is going to be 4 @ $5.5. This will put him at the same age as Kimmo when his contract ends next year. He isn't quite the player Kimmo has been, but would argue he is an upgrade to Carle. Would have liked to have him when the Islanders got him. I'm thinking:

Kimmo - Coburn
Streit - Schenn
Grossman - Gus/Mez

The following year Kimmo is gone, Gus has another year under his belt, and Mez or Gus plays with Coburn.
- section32

He's certainly an upgrade to Carle as far as total point production, and as far as a point shot and PP point man. He's not an upgrade at even strength. And certainly not defensively.

That's why it was word on the street. There usually aren't printed facts to support them.
- jmatchett383

Actually, what Holmgren said was he expected to re-sign Carle, for under market value. He should have done so during the season, before re-signing Grossmann, because that was the deal that made Carle's deal impossible to do in season.

But as soon as Wideman signed, any prayer of Homer getting Carle below market value dried up like a slug in a salt mine

And are you normally privy to this type of information?
- youarewrong

I'll be glad to look at any information you have from a credible source that the Flyers had an agreed upon deal in place with Carle. Verbal or otherwise.

yay! trading more draft picks for old dirt

I'll be glad to look at any information you have from a credible source that the Flyers had an agreed upon deal in place with Carle. Verbal or otherwise.
- MJL

is ek credible?

That's why it was word on the street. There usually aren't printed facts to support them.
- jmatchett383

Well where does the word on the street come from? If there was a deal in place, he would've remained a Flyer.

Does anyone NOT think this leads to a Mez trade?

How do you know you'd hate ass flavored ice cream?
And are we talking man ass or hot kinky asian woman ass?
- jmatchett383

Soft serve.

yay! trading more draft picks for old dirt
- 2Real

Yay, trying to fill a position of weakness without giving up more than a 4th round pick and a career minor leaguer.

How do you know you'd hate ass flavored ice cream?
And are we talking man ass or hot kinky asian woman ass?
- jmatchett383

I meant donkey

Actually, what Holmgren said was he expected to re-sign Carle, for under market value. He should have done so during the season, before re-signing Grossmann, because that was the deal that made Carle's deal impossible to do in season.

But as soon as Wideman signed, any prayer of Homer getting Carle below market value dried up like a slug in a salt mine
- Jsaquella

well we probably dodged a bullet cause lightning fans say carle sucks

Yay, trying to fill a position of weakness without giving up more than a 4th round pick and a career minor leaguer.
- jmatchett383

really? streit is an all star dman that will turn this franchise around?

Well where does the word on the street come from? If there was a deal in place, he would've remained a Flyer.
- MJL

If I knew where these leaked but unconfirmed reports came from, I'd have my own rumors blog. So I don't know.

really? streit is an all star dman that will turn this franchise around?
- 2Real

When did I say that?

well we probably dodged a bullet cause lightning fans say carle sucks
- 2Real

He didn't play especially well for Tampa this year, that's for sure.

I'll be glad to look at any information you have from a credible source that the Flyers had an agreed upon deal in place with Carle. Verbal or otherwise.
- MJL

And I will glad to look at information that you have that says they didn't.

OK, here's my take on Streit:

Cons:

-(frank)ing hate trading assets for rights. Hate it like ass flavored ice cream.

-Obviously the over 35 situation makes me leery. The Flyers seem to be the kid who needs third degree burns to stop toughing the damned stove.

-Streit isn't exactly a great two way defenseman.

Pros:

-Streit is an exceptional puck mover, and still has good wheels at age 35.

-He does fill a major need at a rather insignificant cost(asset wise)

-in regards to likely cap hit, ANYBODY they traded for was likely to have a fairly large cap hit, unless it was a reclamation project such as Jamie McBain or similar young defenseman.

-PP. Streit is an exceptional PP quarterback.

I can see Streit slotted into a second pair role, playing with Coburn and it looks solid on paper.
- Jsaquella

All good points...although IF he is signed it minimizes the pain of the asset trade to nothing. If not...he's another Hamhuis / Nabokov. So I get the risk. The over 35 a la Pronger can bite you. But with Kimmo being gone after next year I am glad to have someone of his skill level and leadership experience on the club.

Does anyone NOT think this leads to a Mez trade?
- Just5

I don't know. But I think something else is going to happen. Just don't know what.

OK, here's my take on Streit:

Cons:

-(frank)ing hate trading assets for rights. Hate it like ass flavored ice cream.

-Obviously the over 35 situation makes me leery. The Flyers seem to be the kid who needs third degree burns to stop toughing the damned stove.

-Streit isn't exactly a great two way defenseman.

Pros:

-Streit is an exceptional puck mover, and still has good wheels at age 35.

-He does fill a major need at a rather insignificant cost(asset wise)

-in regards to likely cap hit, ANYBODY they traded for was likely to have a fairly large cap hit, unless it was a reclamation project such as Jamie McBain or similar young defenseman.

-PP. Streit is an exceptional PP quarterback.

I can see Streit slotted into a second pair role, playing with Coburn and it looks solid on paper.
- Jsaquella

All good points...although IF he is signed it minimizes the pain of the asset trade to nothing. If not...he's another Hamhuis / Nabokov. So I get the risk. The over 35 a la Pronger can bite you. But with Kimmo being gone after next year I am glad to have someone of his skill level and leadership experience on the club.

OK, here's my take on Streit:

Cons:

-(frank)ing hate trading assets for rights. Hate it like ass flavored ice cream.

-Obviously the over 35 situation makes me leery. The Flyers seem to be the kid who needs third degree burns to stop toughing the damned stove.

-Streit isn't exactly a great two way defenseman.

Pros:

-Streit is an exceptional puck mover, and still has good wheels at age 35.

-He does fill a major need at a rather insignificant cost(asset wise)

-in regards to likely cap hit, ANYBODY they traded for was likely to have a fairly large cap hit, unless it was a reclamation project such as Jamie McBain or similar young defenseman.

-PP. Streit is an exceptional PP quarterback.

I can see Streit slotted into a second pair role, playing with Coburn and it looks solid on paper.
- Jsaquella

All good points...although IF he is signed it minimizes the pain of the asset trade to nothing. If not...he's another Hamhuis / Nabokov. So I get the risk. The over 35 a la Pronger can bite you. But with Kimmo being gone after next year I am glad to have someone of his skill level and leadership experience on the club.

OK, here's my take on Streit:

Cons:

-(frank)ing hate trading assets for rights. Hate it like ass flavored ice cream.

-Obviously the over 35 situation makes me leery. The Flyers seem to be the kid who needs third degree burns to stop toughing the damned stove.

-Streit isn't exactly a great two way defenseman.

Pros:

-Streit is an exceptional puck mover, and still has good wheels at age 35.

-He does fill a major need at a rather insignificant cost(asset wise)

-in regards to likely cap hit, ANYBODY they traded for was likely to have a fairly large cap hit, unless it was a reclamation project such as Jamie McBain or similar young defenseman.

-PP. Streit is an exceptional PP quarterback.

I can see Streit slotted into a second pair role, playing with Coburn and it looks solid on paper.
- Jsaquella

I'm going to have to assume that talks for other available D required a significant asset going the other way. This couldn't have been the first choice. This had to be just inside the top ten.

If nothing else (given what the yrs and rate will be on this contract) it buys Erik Gustafsson, Brandon Manning, Shayne Gostisbehere, Marc-Andre Bourdon, Oliver Lauridsen and Mark Alt time to develop a little more without having to rush them and that's a positive.

I'm not crazy about the 4th round pick but he hasn't signed yet so I'll fret that on the 30th (wonder what happens if he's still unsigned July 1).

And I will glad to look at information that you have that says they didn't.
- youarewrong

Matt Carle signed with Tampa Bay for 6 years for 33M

http://www.capgeek.com/player/750

http://www.cbssports.com/...-with-tampa-bay-lightning

All good points...although IF he is signed it minimizes the pain of the asset trade to nothing. If not...he's another Hamhuis / Nabokov. So I get the risk. The over 35 a la Pronger can bite you. But with Kimmo being gone after next year I am glad to have someone of his skill level and leadership experience on the club.
- section32

I think they announced the signing as soon as they do the buyouts. Of course, if they have a taker for Meszaros and can get it done before the buyouts start, they may announce it sooner