My guess? 3 years and $15.6mm
- Jsaquella

time to put Homer out to pasture

My guess is that they looked at a handful of younger guys, the price was Couturier + and they said (frank) it, get a Timonen "replacement" and we'll ride out the season.
- Jsaquella

Reasonable assumption.

Giveaways last 2 Seasons

12/13 Carle 34 Streit 37
11/12 Carle 55 Streit 63
- MJL

What is the TOI?

Agree on defensive skill but offensively he's right there with Timonen and IMO has a better shot even. On leadership, he was the Isles captain the last 3 yrs so he's not chopped liver in that department.
- phillydentist

Streit gives the Flyers a PP point shot that they were lacking. That other teams will have to respect.

time to put Homer out to pasture
- vejim

We just gave Kimmo another $6 MM at age 39.

What is the TOI?
- section32

About even.

Dave Isaac ‏@davegisaac 23s

In canned quotes from Flyers, Streit says he's "pretty confident" he'll sign.

Adam Kimelman ‏@NHLAdamK 50s

Mark Streit on possibly signing with PHI: "I'm pretty confident. ... It'd be awesome to play for the Flyers."
- Jsaquella

yea he was on the fan590 saying it was his dream

And I believe he wouldn't based on the Wideman deal.

http://www.broadstreethoc...gency-2012-dennis-wideman
-"Paul Holmgren is on the record saying he believes Carle will sign in Philadelphia under market value, and there's a possibility that Carle and the Flyers already have a agreement in place. The only reason the Flyers cannot sign a deal with Carle pre-July 1 is tagging space, but that's really just a formality. But even if the Flyers did have an agreement in place with Carle, he and his agent would be silly not to rip that up and start over. Not after the Flames just gave more than $5 million per year to Dennis Wideman."

http://www.delcotimes.com...febd67508eca291675277.txt
- "General manager Paul Holmgren has said he's pretty confident he'll not only be able to re-sign Carle on the first day of free agency Sunday, but he'll be able to do so at a “hometown discount.” Speculation was Carle would perhaps go for a contract averaging about $4.5 million a year instead of an optimistic estimate of about $5 million per season. But Wideman, whose rights were worth a fifth-round draft choice from the Flames to the Caps, drew more than that from Hershey-bred GM Jay Feaster and his masters. And the commitment was on a longer term contract than what anyone might have expected. Expect that hometown discount to stay in place for the Flyers if they sign on Matt Carle. But don't be surprised if the numbers just changed a bit. "

Again, as I said, word on the street. Nothing confirmed. All I said was that it was word on the street, not that I knew it for sure.
- jmatchett383

I think were on the same page here. Holmgren may have had preliminary talks and felt a deal could be made. But it's obvious that there was no agreed upon deal in place. Verbal or otherwise. Regardless, it really doesn't matter now.

About even.
- jmatchett383

Hmm. Fair enough. Point taken.

Giveaways last 2 Seasons

12/13 Carle 34 Streit 37
11/12 Carle 55 Streit 63
- MJL

streit is an offensive minded dman and carle just sucks

bad comparison

We just gave Kimmo another $6 MM at age 39.
- section32

Homer is an FN luney

yea he was on the fan590 saying it was his dream
- 2Real

Did he say anything about a dream-town discount?

Alexei Yashin was an Islander captain for 2 years.
- 77rams

One does not disprove the other.

Alexei Yashin was an Islander captain for 2 years.
- 77rams

yea and bryzgalov might only be a flyers goalie for 2 years

streit is an offensive minded dman and carle just sucks

bad comparison
- 2Real

So would you say Streit is turning over the puck bringing it out and Carle is turning it over being more reckless and therefore putting them in worse positions?

Did he say anything about a dream-town discount?
- 77rams

depends on who's dream-town we're talking about

What is the TOI?
- section32

Pretty much identical.

12/13 Carle 23:44 Streit 23:20
11/12 Carle 23:01 Streit 23:22

It's not credible at all.
- MJL

Only Sith deal in absolutes.

So would you say Streit is turning over the puck bringing it out and Carle is turning it over being more reckless and therefore putting them in worse positions?
- section32

i would say that stat is useless because Jagr used to lead the league in giveaways not because he was bad but because he was always trying to make things happen on offense

Word on the street was that Holmgren felt there was a deal to be done. I never saw any factual information that stated that a deal was in place.
- MJL

dustin leed tweeted that at the time. he's fairly well sourced...

Hmm. Fair enough. Point taken.
- section32

I think the thing with Carle is that his turnovers tended to be of the glaring kind...where he would only make one bad play a game, but based on the role he was playing, it usually ended up in a scoring chance or kept the Flyers pinned deep since a lot of his plays originated in the defensive zone trying to transition to forwards in the neutral zone.

I'd hope that Streit's turnovers are a result of him carrying the puck more often than Carle (so time with puck as opposed to TOI) and that most of them occur in the neutral zone as opposed to the defensive zone.

So would you say Streit is turning over the puck bringing it out and Carle is turning it over being more reckless and therefore putting them in worse positions?
- section32

Here's the bottom line with puck movers like Carle and Streit. When you handle the puck as much as they do, there is going to be giveaways.

yea and bryzgalov might only be a flyers goalie for 2 years
- 2Real

What dies that have to do with Yashin being an ex-NHL captain?

dustin leed tweeted that at the time. he's fairly well sourced...
- isaiah520

Everybody had the same information. Holmgren was putting out the message that it was just a formality, and apparently thought that Carle would wait. He was apparently wrong.

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 40m

Source indicates Streit "likely" to sign with Flyers, but Philly needs to shed salary first. Have to wait til buyout window opens. #Isles