I would. If a player isn't drafted, they have to work even harder to get a job in the NHL and still there is no guarantees that way. He's very fortunate because he could have found a home in the AHL and never moved up at all. He's about 28, so I'm sure it took along time to put himself on the radar.
- dingo8urbaby

I personally would not categorize that as a struggle. He had to work harder to get what he wanted.. He didnt struggle. Struggle is what you saw out of a guy like Chet Pickard.

I would. If a player isn't drafted, they have to work even harder to get a job in the NHL and still there is no guarantees that way. He's very fortunate because he could have found a home in the AHL and never moved up at all. He's about 28, so I'm sure it took along time to put himself on the radar.
- dingo8urbaby

And giroux could flop tomorrow but not likely to happen...read has been consistent game in and game out, hes a smart player...i dont understand is he going to get stupid all of a sudden and loose his obvious skills?.

Nail meet head.
- MJL

I'm confused, so you're telling me I hit the nail on the head, too?

And giroux could flop tomorrow but not likely to happen...read has been consistent game in and game out, hes a smart player...i dont understand is he going to get stupid all of a sudden.....
- PhillaBully

Put it this way... he was one of the most important players on team Canada in the World Championships.

I would. If a player isn't drafted, they have to work even harder to get a job in the NHL and still there is no guarantees that way. He's very fortunate because he could have found a home in the AHL and never moved up at all. He's about 28, so I'm sure it took along time to put himself on the radar.
- dingo8urbaby

Who cares how a player gets to the NHL? Isn't it about how they perform in the NHL that really matters?

Barring any upcoming trades, I think Streit and Coburn would make sense together.
- BulliesPhan87

either that or Schenn and Streit, Timonen and Coburn - I remember them being a really good pairing.

I'm confused, so you're telling me I hit the nail on the head, too?
- Tomahawk

Hadn't the nail and the head met already?

I would not pair Timonen and Streit.
- flyersfan51

Agreed. Wasn't really thinking about the combinations.

And giroux could flop tomorrow but not likely to happen...read has been consistent game in and game out, hes a smart player...i dont understand is he going to get stupid all of a sudden and loose his obvious skills?.
- PhillaBully

I thought Giroux flopped last season? Did he even come back from Germany?

Hadn't the nail and the head met already?
- tangent_man

Considering the head is part of the nail, I assume so.

Tangent meet _man.

Put it this way... he was one of the most important players on team Canada in the World Championships.
- jak521

That and people forget he was injured...i thought he was going to be out for like 6 weeks, but came back much sooner..

That and people forget he was injured...i thought he was going to be out for like 6 weeks, but came back much sooner..
- PhillaBully

but he didn't get drafted, so it doesn't count

either that or Schenn and Streit, Timonen and Coburn - I remember them being a really good pairing.
- flyersfan51

I can dig it.

And giroux could flop tomorrow but not likely to happen...read has been consistent game in and game out, hes a smart player...i dont understand is he going to get stupid all of a sudden.....
- PhillaBully

Most forwards see their production peak around the ages of 26-29... and then, there's either a gradual or sudden drop-off due to the biology of aging, cumulative injuries, diminished role, or all of the above.

Take Simon Gagne for example... his best years were in his mid-late 20's, then everything seemed to catch up with him at once. He's still a smart player, useful two-ways, but his days as a threat are over.

Giroux's not even in the window of peak production yet, no worries there.

Most forwards see their production peak around the ages of 26-29... and then, there's either a gradual or sudden drop-off due to the biology of aging, cumulative injuries, diminished role, or all of the above.

Take Simon Gagne for example... his best years were in his mid-late 20's, then everything seemed to catch up with him at once. He's still a smart player, useful two-ways, but his days as a threat are over.

Giroux's not even in the window of peak production yet, no worries there.
- Tomahawk

If Hemsky gets bought out, I'm all over that!!

Considering the head is part of the nail, I assume so.

Tangent meet _man.
- BulliesPhan87

*shakes own hand*

I thought Giroux flopped last season? Did he even come back from Germany?
- mayorofangrytown

Hew was off by .2 pts per game 2012:1.2 and 2013:1.0... I wouldnt call it a flop, but i think he needs a sniper which he was missing last year.

*shakes own hand*
- tangent_man

that's awkward

edit: just tried

that's awkward

edit: just tried
- funmaster18

I knew someone would.

I knew someone would.
- tangent_man

i figured you needed a source for your rumor, all about fact checking and quality control here

i figured you needed a source for your rumor, all about fact checking and quality control here
- funmaster18

You're always there for the grunt work. 'Preciate it.

Most forwards see their production peak around the ages of 26-29... and then, there's either a gradual or sudden drop-off due to the biology of aging, cumulative injuries, diminished role, or all of the above.

Take Simon Gagne for example... his best years were in his mid-late 20's, then everything seemed to catch up with him at once. He's still a smart player, useful two-ways, but his days as a threat are over.

Giroux's not even in the window of peak production yet, no worries there.
- Tomahawk

Read does not have the same wear and tear the giroux has. if he was.

For aurguments sake, lets say he was 22 or 23 what would his value be with his current production?

Agree on giroux no worries there...i think we can throw away last season...

Here's an interesting thought (to me anyway), where does Bryz land if he is bought out? Does he go back to Russia or field interest from the NHL? If the NHL, who would be interested?

Here's an interesting thought (to me anyway), where does Bryz land if he is bought out? Does he go back to Russia or field interest from the NHL? If the NHL, who would be interested?
- funmaster18

NYI, TBL, PHX...

Here's an interesting thought (to me anyway), where does Bryz land if he is bought out? Does he go back to Russia or field interest from the NHL? If the NHL, who would be interested?
- funmaster18

Islanders