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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 18 @ 12:14 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Undrafted Flyers, Thursday Quick Hits
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Jul 18 @ 12:22 PM ET
Heart and Speed - Matthew Read!

I am afraid that in order to dump Meszaros' contract we're going to have to package Read along with him.

Read and Mez for a prospect and a pick or something like that.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Jul 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
Another great and informative article

Any word on what the top brass is thinking to make cap room? I think tomorrow is Weber day!!!
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jul 18 @ 12:29 PM ET
another great blob, Bill ... and I loved Jack McIlhargey.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 18 @ 12:29 PM ET
Tim Kerr might be the most underrated athlete in Philadelphia sports history.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 18 @ 12:32 PM ET
(courtesy of frustrated teammate Glen Cochrane shoving him into the boards after scoring a goal in practice)


Glen Cochrane was not very good at ice hockey.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 18 @ 12:33 PM ET
Heart and Speed - Matthew Read!

I am afraid that in order to dump Meszaros' contract we're going to have to package Read along with him.

Read and Mez for a prospect and a pick or something like that.

- Coburns_Nose


Maybe for Calgary's 1st round pick next year.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jul 18 @ 12:37 PM ET
the fact that Vandermeer and Busniuk crack the Flyers 10 Ten Undrafted list proves how important the draft is.

Undrafted players the quality of Kerr and Poulin come around VERY infrequently.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 18 @ 12:39 PM ET
Wasnt Cechmanek undrafted?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 18 @ 12:40 PM ET
the fact that Vandermeer and Busniuk crack the Flyers 10 Ten Undrafted list proves how important the draft is.

Undrafted players the quality of Kerr and Poulin come around VERY infrequently.

- FlyerGuy


You could take those two off and put Bobrovsky and Gustafsson on. I thought about both of them but Bob only spent two years here and just one as the primary starter, while Gustafsson is on the brink of finally becoming a full-time NHL player and has to actually do it first.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 18 @ 12:41 PM ET
Wasnt Cechmanek undrafted?
- youarewrong


No. He was 29 but the NHL rules at the time required all European league players to be drafted.

FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jul 18 @ 12:42 PM ET
You could take those two off and put Bobrovsky and Gustafsson on. I thought about both of them but Bob only spent two years here and just one as the primary starter, while Gustafsson is on the brink of finally becoming a full-time NHL player and has to actually do it first.
- bmeltzer

hopefully a few years from now Bob doesn't end up high on this list.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 18 @ 12:42 PM ET
Maybe for Calgary's 1st round pick next year.
- Feanor


I would do that in a heartbeat....

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Vinny-Simmonds
Gagne-Couturier-Laughton
Talbot-Hall-Rinaldo
Rosehill

Streit-Schenn
Timonen-Coburn
Grossmann-Gustefsson
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 18 @ 12:42 PM ET
Tim Kerr might be the most underrated athlete in Philadelphia sports history.
- johndewar


Absolutely! He had 4 consecutive 50 goal seasons in an era where holding, hooking and slashing were basically legal. I have to think if that era had played with today's crackdown on obstruction, he might have scored 70 goals or more.

His release on his wrist shot was unbelievable, he may have been the best pure powerplay sniper I have ever seen.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 18 @ 12:44 PM ET
I would do that in a heartbeat....

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Vinny-Simmonds
Gagne-Couturier-Laughton
Talbot-Hall-Rinaldo
Rosehill

Streit-Schenn
Timonen-Coburn
Grossmann-Gustefsson

- youarewrong


Too bad Calgary won't
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jul 18 @ 12:44 PM ET
Heart and Speed - Matthew Read!

I am afraid that in order to dump Meszaros' contract we're going to have to package Read along with him.

Read and Mez for a prospect and a pick or something like that.

- Coburns_Nose


I doubt it. There will be a lot of teams willing to take a flyer on a possible top 4 two way defensemen if healthy, especially if you consider he's only signed for one more year if he's not.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 18 @ 12:46 PM ET
I doubt it. There will be a lot of teams willing to take a flyer on a possible top 4 two way defensemen if healthy, especially if you consider he's only signed for one more year if he's not.
- flyler



I think a trade of Meszaros is possible. But I don't see a lot of teams being interested.
richiewinthecup
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: canada
Joined: 04.07.2010

Jul 18 @ 12:47 PM ET
My friend wont leave this alone so i will post this and see what you guys think.If you had to choose which team has the brighter future would you pick philly or ny islanders.I choose philly and he is picking the islanders, i think he is so wrong.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jul 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
Great article Bill. I think drafting overagers who are a little further in their careers might be easier then predicting what kind of players they are going to be at 17-18. More time to see what skills develop and how committed these kids are to their hockey careers.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 18 @ 12:48 PM ET
No. He was 29 but the NHL rules at the time required all European league players to be drafted.
- bmeltzer


Bill, do you think because of internet and televised games all over that the quality and quantity of non-drafted players has been declining, or do you think that because of an increase in popularity there are more players playing under the radar?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 18 @ 12:49 PM ET
Glen Cochrane was not very good at ice hockey.
- johndewar

Perhaps, but he made Pelle Lindbergh feel comfortable and protected upon Pelle's arrival to the NHL.

I think I read that in some brilliant writer's book about Pelle Lindbergh.

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 18 @ 12:50 PM ET
My friend wont leave this alone so i will post this and see what you guys think.If you had to choose which team has the brighter future would you pick philly or ny islanders.I choose philly and he is picking the islanders, i think he is so wrong.
- richiewinthecup


I do think the Islanders are a team on the rise. Their days of being a doormat are over, I think, with Tavares, Moulson, etc.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 18 @ 12:50 PM ET
My friend wont leave this alone so i will post this and see what you guys think.If you had to choose which team has the brighter future would you pick philly or ny islanders.I choose philly and he is picking the islanders, i think he is so wrong.
- richiewinthecup


Well both have a superstar center, and good depth up front. The Isles have more D prospects, but who knows if they are any better, as of now I would say the Flyers D is a little better. Both have Question marks in goal. Overall the fact that the Flyers will spend any amount of money to win, may give them a slight edge, but perhaps the Isles will get more aggressive once they move to Brooklyn.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 18 @ 12:50 PM ET
My friend wont leave this alone so i will post this and see what you guys think.If you had to choose which team has the brighter future would you pick philly or ny islanders.I choose philly and he is picking the islanders, i think he is so wrong.
- richiewinthecup

Flyers fans will pick the Flyers. Negadelphians will pick the Islanders.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 18 @ 12:51 PM ET
Well both have a superstar center, and good depth up front. The Isles have more D prospects, but who knows if they are any better, as of now I would say the Flyers D is a little better. Both have Question marks in goal. Overall the fact that the Flyers will spend any amount of money to win, may give them a slight edge, but perhaps the Isles will get more aggressive once they move to Brooklyn.
- BiggE

So they'll "Sleep 'til Brooklyn?"
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