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IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Aug 14 @ 4:02 PM ET
Ian Esplen: Douglas Murray? Yes Please
Talkshowhost
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.17.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
12/13 - 89 hits, 98 blocked shots
11/12 – 137 hits, 143 blocked shots
10/11 – 203 hits, 140 blocked shots



You assume those correlate with winning though, why?
XxHarounXx
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sam Gagner dealt to Toronto for Gardiner+ - Cloutier, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:06 PM ET
If he can come cheap, then go for it. No such thing as too many NHL D
yzermaneely
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Poway, CA
Joined: 12.17.2011

Aug 14 @ 4:10 PM ET
Watch smart players like Corey Perry just peel off when the puck is moving toward Murray. If you don't, your season can be effectively over in an instant. Just ask Visnovsky what happened in San Jose a couple of years ago. And just back away boys, Murray is a beast better left alone.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Aug 14 @ 4:10 PM ET
You assume those correlate with winning though, why?
- Talkshowhost


not so much winning as filling a hole that Vancouver has on D.

Their issue in the past few years has been size on the back end and getting pushed around. Murray helps with that and the hits and shot blocks generally come with a player that does both those things.
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Aug 14 @ 4:15 PM ET
So what, we sign him and leave the gaping holes on the 3rd /4th line open, hoping/praying that Schroeder can fill the 3c spot and we have no injuries?


Yikes, as much as I liked like to have that beast back there, I feel we have bigger gaps to fill.

Unless Tanevs rights are traded.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:15 PM ET
He has footspeed like Alberts,but Alberts had some good games last year. At 1.5 Mil I would take him . He would be excellent against guys like Lucic and Chara
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 14 @ 4:16 PM ET
I'd take Murray for $1M. He'd be an upgrade over Alberts and as Ian said, he fills a very specific need on the Canucks' backend.

I still don't think it's coincidence the reports of their interest in Murray came out the day after Tanev's agent said there was lots of interest in the KHL and Europe. I think their ultimate goal is still to get Tanev signed, but Murray could be a good backup plan.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:17 PM ET
So what, we sign him and leave the gaping holes on the 3rd /4th line open, hoping/praying that Schroeder can fill the 3c spot and we have no injuries?


Yikes, as much as I liked like to have that beast back there, I feel we have bigger gaps to fill.

Unless Tanevs rights are traded.

- moondawg



Gilman said minutes ago they are not going after any new forwards,all positions will be filled by existing players at forward.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 14 @ 4:17 PM ET
Ian Esplen: Douglas Murray?
Yes Please

- IanEsplen


He's no speedster, but he's not a "bad skater". He actually skates exceptionally well for being enormous.

He's not signed yet because he, like Peter Mueller, for some reason think they can still get multi year deals.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:18 PM ET
I'd take Murray for $1M. He'd be an upgrade over Alberts and as Ian said, he fills a very specific need on the Canucks' backend.

I still don't think it's coincidence the reports of their interest in Murray came out the day after Tanev's agent said there was lots of interest in the KHL and Europe. I think their ultimate goal is still to get Tanev signed, but Murray could be a good backup plan.

- KB3Point0



I hope we sign both.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Aug 14 @ 4:18 PM ET
He has footspeed like Alberts,but Alberts had some good games last year. At 1.5 Mil I would take him . He would be excellent against guys like Lucic and Chara
- VANTEL



Murray certainly helped the Penguins against Lucic and Chara in the playoffs.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:19 PM ET
Murray certainly helped the Penguins against Lucic and Chara in the playoffs.
- DarthKane



Had nothing to do with Fluery letting in shots from center?

kovey27
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Cornwall, ON
Joined: 06.07.2013

Aug 14 @ 4:21 PM ET
your d is not the worst, murray would be fine, but he's not going to sign for 1 million. a better option is brad boyes, he plays well when surrounded by talent, sure he would sign a 2 million per contract. I'm sure Boyes and Murray are being discussed by Gillis and co.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:21 PM ET
I'd rather sign Mueller. If Corrado is making this team and Tanev will get signed then I'd definitely prefer Mueller(can play wing/center, decent player, shootout specialist, not a small guy either).
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 14 @ 4:22 PM ET
So what, we sign him and leave the gaping holes on the 3rd /4th line open, hoping/praying that Schroeder can fill the 3c spot and we have no injuries?


Yikes, as much as I liked like to have that beast back there, I feel we have bigger gaps to fill.

Unless Tanevs rights are traded.

- moondawg


We basically have one hole up front at the moment. 3C, which they have basically said will be left open for a rookie (Gaunce, Schroeder, Horvat) to seize.

We also have one hole on D at the moment. Tanev's spot. If Tanev won't sign for what he's worth then we need to fill it with someone. Murray would be a good option.

Tanev's rights have virtually zero value.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 14 @ 4:25 PM ET
I hope we sign both.
- VANTEL


I'd be happy with that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:27 PM ET
We also have Weber a RHD for the powerplay so we still need a tough 6/7 Dman
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:29 PM ET
We basically have one hole up front at the moment. 3C, which they have basically said will be left open for a rookie (Gaunce, Schroeder, Horvat) to seize.

We also have one hole on D at the moment. Tanev's spot. If Tanev won't sign for what he's worth then we need to fill it with someone. Murray would be a good option.

Tanev's rights have virtually zero value.

- KB3Point0


If I am Gilman, seeing all D spots can be filled with the current roster, I wait until Tanev is ready to sign at 1.2 mil. I guess he could go to the KHLbut offersheets are not coming in.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:33 PM ET
We also have Weber a RHD for the powerplay so we still need a tough 6/7 Dman
- VANTEL



If Tanev is signed and Corrado makes the team, the defense looks pretty set to me.

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Corrado/Tanev
Garrison - Corrado/Tanev
Weber


I think Mueller would help this team more than Murray.
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Aug 14 @ 4:34 PM ET
slowest player in hockey. weird that he would want to go to vancouver, he should wait to go to a cup contender.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:36 PM ET
If I am Gilman, seeing all D spots can be filled with the current roster, I wait until Tanev is ready to sign at 1.2 mil. I guess he could go to the KHLbut offersheets are not coming in.
- VANTEL



I don't see why a KHL team would be too interested in him. He's not a well known player in the NHL, let alone internationally. Seems like BS coming from his agent. And I doubt the KHL would offer him too much money either and it's definitely not worth plying in the KHL compred to the NHL unless you feel comfortable living in Russia, not being close with teammates/understanding the language as a foreigner, being away from all of your family and friends and not getting the first class treatment as god as NHL players do from their organization on road trips and such.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 14 @ 4:37 PM ET
slowest player in hockey. weird that he would want to go to vancouver, he should wait to go to a cup contender.
- Jurco_28


You seriously suck at this. I hope you don't put too much thought into what you post.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 14 @ 4:37 PM ET
If I am Gilman, seeing all D spots can be filled with the current roster, I wait until Tanev is ready to sign at 1.2 mil. I guess he could go to the KHLbut offersheets are not coming in.
- VANTEL


I don't think he'll go to the KHL for a few extra hundred grand, or extra years. I think he'll sign at the number they're offering because he has no choice. His biggest mistake was hiring an agent because he basically just gave away 3-5% for nothing.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Aug 14 @ 4:39 PM ET
I don't see why a KHL team would be too interested in him. He's not a well known player in the NHL, let alone internationally. Seems like BS coming from his agent. And I doubt the KHL would offer him too much money either and it's definitely not worth plying in the KHL compred to the NHL unless you feel comfortable living in Russia, not being close with teammates/understanding the language as a foreigner, being away from all of your family and friends and not getting the first class treatment as god as NHL players do from their organization on road trips and such.
- Nucker101


Agreed. This is his new agent just grasping at straws right now. Going to the KHL would be an awful decision for him.
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