Tim Panaccio: Read Re-Signed

Good for Read. And good for the Flyers. Perfect example of hard work paying off.

Good to see Read signed.

Good for Read. And good for the Flyers. Perfect example of hard work paying off.
- wolfhounds

Totally agree. He's a class act as well. Couldn't be happier for him and the flyers! Well done homer.

Soooo.... 3.625 mil for a 3rd line winger? Homer the retard strikes again. Sorry people this is a crap deal. Read isn't worth more than 2 maybe 2.5 Mil at the absolute most. And don't tell me how he can move up and down the line up and what great defense he plays. He's a very good overall 3rd line player. Why homer insist on over paYing for everyone is ridiculous. That is why we are in cap trouble every year

They're not going to trade him after signing him to the best contract besides Talbot on this team, Panach. I'm sick of people talking about him like he's a scrub who the Flyers will be forced to move if they come into cap trouble. First of all, they're not in cap trouble and they're not going to be in cap trouble, especially with the cap going up next year and with Timonen's putrid 6 mil contract coming off the books. He's making $900,000 now so he will only be taking another 2.7mil off the cap next season and RFA Brayden Schenn will likely see a marginal raise (if that) from his current bonus infused 3.1mil cap hit. So there's plenty of room for this severely underrated and disgustingly under-appreciated player on the flyers roster.

Matt read is the ideal example of a role player on a cup winning team. Besides Giroux, he's the most versatile player on this team and he hasn't even reached his ceiling yet. Yeah, u heard me right, I don't give a s h i t about his age, people have yet to see the best from this guy. He can skate, he can hit, he can play defense, he can play wing or center, he's a great personality and an extremely likable guy who breathes fresh air into a locker room tarnished by prima donnas like Jeff Carter and Mike Richards.

This season he will show all the doubters and people who have thrown him out the door why he's worth twice the price the flyers signed him for. Eat s h I t haters

Good move by Read ... maybe he'll be lucky enough to get traded down the road and win a cup with another team. Worked out for Richards and Carter ... and a lot of others!

Soooo.... 3.625 mil for a 3rd line winger? Homer the retard strikes again. Sorry people this is a crap deal. Read isn't worth more than 2 maybe 2.5 Mil at the absolute most. And don't tell me how he can move up and down the line up and what great defense he plays. He's a very good overall 3rd line player. Why homer insist on over paYing for everyone is ridiculous. That is why we are in cap trouble every year
- SMS4016

Who cares what line...

Read was 6th leading forward w/24 points

Boston 6th leading forward (Lucic) w/27 points for $6M
Pens 6th leading forward (Morrow) w/25 points for $4.1M
Rags 6th leading forward (Hagelin) w/24 points for $2.25M
Wash 6th leading forward (Ward) w/20 points for $3M

Over pay, NOT

Soooo.... 3.625 mil for a 3rd line winger? Homer the retard strikes again. Sorry people this is a crap deal. Read isn't worth more than 2 maybe 2.5 Mil at the absolute most. And don't tell me how he can move up and down the line up and what great defense he plays. He's a very good overall 3rd line player. Why homer insist on over paYing for everyone is ridiculous. That is why we are in cap trouble every year
- SMS4016

LMAO. You're such a clueless tool!

They're not going to trade him after signing him to the best contract besides Talbot on this team, Panach. I'm sick of people talking about him like he's a scrub who the Flyers will be forced to move if they come into cap trouble. First of all, they're not in cap trouble and they're not going to be in cap trouble, especially with the cap going up next year and with Timonen's putrid 6 mil contract coming off the books. He's making $900,000 now so he will only be taking another 2.7mil off the cap next season and RFA Brayden Schenn will likely see a marginal raise (if that) from his current bonus infused 3.1mil cap hit. So there's plenty of room for this severely underrated and disgustingly under-appreciated player on the flyers roster.

Matt read is the ideal example of a role player on a cup winning team. Besides Giroux, he's the most versatile player on this team and he hasn't even reached his ceiling yet. Yeah, u heard me right, I don't give a s h i t about his age, people have yet to see the best from this guy. He can skate, he can hit, he can play defense, he can play wing or center, he's a great personality and an extremely likable guy who breathes fresh air into a locker room tarnished by prima donnas like Jeff Carter and Mike Richards.

This season he will show all the doubters and people who have thrown him out the door why he's worth twice the price the flyers signed him for. Eat s h I t haters
- FlyersPhanatic012

Well said, but u forgot to mention he can be a backup goalie as well....I like this but to Tim p. point he is a more tradable asset. I think the flyers will sign b. schen and at some point move a forward or two...I think m. Read sticks b/c he has the complete package.

Soooo.... 3.625 mil for a 3rd line winger? Homer the retard strikes again. Sorry people this is a crap deal. Read isn't worth more than 2 maybe 2.5 Mil at the absolute most. And don't tell me how he can move up and down the line up and what great defense he plays. He's a very good overall 3rd line player. Why homer insist on over paYing for everyone is ridiculous. That is why we are in cap trouble every year
- SMS4016

So you think if Read would play out his contract, and test Free Agency, all he could get is 2 maybe 2.5 at the most? Not likely. He'd be looking at at least 4M in Free Agency. There is an NHL salary structure. 3.625M for Read is a steal. If he keeps improving as a player, it's an even better deal. It's not an overpayment. It's a fair deal for both sides. And another good job by Holmgren getting it done. And he can move up and down the lineup, and 3rd line Winger is just a label. He has the ability to score 30 goals if he has a very good year.

They're not going to trade him after signing him to the best contract besides Talbot on this team, Panach. I'm sick of people talking about him like he's a scrub who the Flyers will be forced to move if they come into cap trouble. First of all, they're not in cap trouble and they're not going to be in cap trouble, especially with the cap going up next year and with Timonen's putrid 6 mil contract coming off the books. He's making $900,000 now so he will only be taking another 2.7mil off the cap next season and RFA Brayden Schenn will likely see a marginal raise (if that) from his current bonus infused 3.1mil cap hit. So there's plenty of room for this severely underrated and disgustingly under-appreciated player on the flyers roster.

Matt read is the ideal example of a role player on a cup winning team. Besides Giroux, he's the most versatile player on this team and he hasn't even reached his ceiling yet. Yeah, u heard me right, I don't give a s h i t about his age, people have yet to see the best from this guy. He can skate, he can hit, he can play defense, he can play wing or center, he's a great personality and an extremely likable guy who breathes fresh air into a locker room tarnished by prima donnas like Jeff Carter and Mike Richards.

This season he will show all the doubters and people who have thrown him out the door why he's worth twice the price the flyers signed him for. Eat s h I t haters
- FlyersPhanatic012

I was agreeing with you totally until the Carter and Richards nonsense. But otherwise, well said.

So you think if Read would play out his contract, and test Free Agency, all he could get is 2 maybe 2.5 at the most? Not likely. He'd be looking at at least 4M in Free Agency. There is an NHL salary structure. 3.625M for Read is a steal. If he keeps improving as a player, it's an even better deal. It's not an overpayment. It's a fair deal for both sides. And another good job by Holmgren getting it done. And he can move up and down the lineup, and 3rd line Winger is just a label. He has the ability to score 30 goals if he has a very good year.
- MJL

Yes I agree that if read signed as free agent he would get 3.5 to 4 mil somewhere else but chances are he'd be on 2nd line on that new team. Phillys pay scale for these players is way out of whack. You can not overpay 3rd or 4th line players and overpay 5and 6 pairing Dmen. Example is simmonds is 2nd line winger being paid correctly. Read making basically same per year as 3rd liner is out of whack. Hey I like read alot and it's a good thing to be over stacked at positions but you can't have your top 9 forwards all making 4 plus mil the cap isn't going up that much. The math doesn't add up. If were not trading forwards for top Dman we better not get rid of them for cap space ala gagne.

Well said, but u forgot to mention he can be a backup goalie as well....I like this but to Tim p. point he is a more tradable asset. I think the flyers will sign b. schen and at some point move a forward or two...I think m. Read sticks b/c he has the complete package.
- huks99

Who you think they are going to move that's ahead of read on depth chart? G,checky,vinny,simmonds,schenn,hartnell aRent going anywhere. Can't see read moving up the ladder unless injury. Just don't want to see forwards moved for cap space again. That's just getting old

Yes I agree that if read signed as free agent he would get 3.5 to 4 mil somewhere else but chances are he'd be on 2nd line on that new team. Phillys pay scale for these players is way out of whack. You can not overpay 3rd or 4th line players and overpay 5and 6 pairing Dmen. Example is simmonds is 2nd line winger being paid correctly. Read making basically same per year as 3rd liner is out of whack. Hey I like read alot and it's a good thing to be over stacked at positions but you can't have your top 9 forwards all making 4 plus mil the cap isn't going up that much. The math doesn't add up. If were not trading forwards for top Dman we better not get rid of them for cap space ala gagne.
- SMS4016

The problem is that you're labeling Read as a 3rd line player. A player of Read's caliber is not going to take the well under market value deal that you propose, because one, the team has Forward depth, and you've assigned him to the so called 3rd line. A player's worth is deemed by his production, and what he brings to the team. Regardless of what line he plays on. Read scored 24 goals as a Rookie, and was on pace to score 21 goals last Season prorated to an 82 game Season. And that is with time missed to injury, where he had to play his way back into shape. Not to mention that Read also plays on the PP, and the PK. You bring up Simmonds, stating that he plays on the 2nd line, so he is paid correctly. Simmonds averaged 15:38 of icetime last Season per game. Read averaged 18:04 of ice time per game. So not only does Read play more then Simmonds does, he also plays in more key situations then Simmonds does. And Read is a better all around player then Simmonds is. Let's look at Even Strength icetime per game. Claude Giroux leads all Flyers forwards in that department. Guess who's 2nd?
And unless I'm mistaken, all top 9 Flyers forwards ,don't make 4 mil plus. So honestly, the only math that doesn't add up here, is the math you're using.


And that really doesn't address why the Flyers are likely to play Read on the 3rd line. We can discuss that also. But I assure you, it's not because he's not good enough to play on the top 2 lines.

So you think if Read would play out his contract, and test Free Agency, all he could get is 2 maybe 2.5 at the most? Not likely. He'd be looking at at least 4M in Free Agency. There is an NHL salary structure. 3.625M for Read is a steal. If he keeps improving as a player, it's an even better deal. It's not an overpayment. It's a fair deal for both sides. And another good job by Holmgren getting it done. And he can move up and down the lineup, and 3rd line Winger is just a label. He has the ability to score 30 goals if he has a very good year.
- MJL

3.625 for Read is not a steal. It's fair compensation and a good deal for the Flyers because they dont have many swiss army knife type players like Read.

Hjalmmarsson at 4.1, now there's a steal.

3.625 for Read is not a steal. It's fair compensation and a good deal for the Flyers because they dont have many swiss army knife type players like Read.

Hjalmmarsson at 4.1, now there's a steal.
- Just5

I think it's a fair deal, but Read could've gotten more in Free Agency. So it's definitely a steal in my opinion, for what he brings to the ice. And it will be even more so, if Read continues to ascend as a player, like I think he's going to.

I think it's a fair deal, but Read could've got more in Free Agency. So it's definitely a steal in my opinion, for what he brings to the ice. And it will be even more so, if Read continues to ascend as a player, like I think he's going to.
- MJL

We'll never know, but lets say he went into free agency this year. I dont think he would've gotten a much better deal than that, and I think hes right up against his ceiling as a player. That is ok as long as he keeps bringing his game. He's a player the Flyers HAVE to have. So good deal.

We'll never know, but lets say he went into free agency this year. I dont think he would've gotten a much better deal than that, and I think hes right up against his ceiling as a player. That is ok as long as he keeps bringing his game. He's a player the Flyers HAVE to have. So good deal.
- Just5

There's no question he could've gotten more in Free Agency with teams bidding against one another. Hell Ville Leino got 4.5M as a UFA. And I also completely disagree that Read is up against his ceiling as a player. There is still plenty of room for growth there.

Who you think they are going to move that's ahead of read on depth chart? G,checky,vinny,simmonds,schenn,hartnell aRent going anywhere. Can't see read moving up the ladder unless injury. Just don't want to see forwards moved for cap space again. That's just getting old
- SMS4016

this team has offense in excess....and if this team feels that it could get the missing piece via a trade they will do it.....remember carter and richards.....the only player that is not going to be moved is Giroux.....but if nashville calls and offers Weber for G....I'll drive him to the airport myself and i'm sure the flyer brass feels the same.

this team has offense in excess....and if this team feels that it could get the missing piece via a trade they will do it.....remember carter and richards.....the only player that is not going to be moved is Giroux.....but if nashville calls and offers Weber for G....I'll drive him to the airport myself and i'm sure the flyer brass feels the same.
- huks99

Really? Homer wouldn't move Coots and BSchenn for Weber, why would you wanna move G for him? It's a fair deal, but Giroux is our spark. He should remain a Flyer for as long as he can play.

There's no question he could've gotten more in Free Agency with teams bidding against one another. Hell Ville Leino got 4.5M as a UFA. And I also completely disagree that Read is up against his ceiling as a player. There is still plenty of room for growth there.
- MJL

Agreed. I think Read has more to show us. Great move by Holmgren.

Really? Homer wouldn't move Coots and BSchenn for Weber, why would you wanna move G for him? It's a fair deal, but Giroux is our spark. He should remain a Flyer for as long as he can play.
- JAKEw1234

G is a spark like Richards?

Not sayin it's gonna happen but past history proves that anyone can be traded off this team ..... Anyone!!!

Not sayin it's gonna happen but past history proves that anyone can be traded off this team ..... Anyone!!!
- huks99

When they don't see eye to eye with management. But Giroux is our beloved captain. Despite being drafted three years later than Richards and Carter, he's already a lot better than either of them will ever be. He's a fan favorite, he's (decently) mature, and he's a good leader. Above all, he doesn't do the poop that got Carter and Richards shipped out.

When they don't see eye to eye with management. But Giroux is our beloved captain. Despite being drafted three years later than Richards and Carter, he's already a lot better than either of them will ever be. He's a fan favorite, he's (decently) mature, and he's a good leader. Above all, he doesn't do the poop that got Carter and Richards shipped out.
- JAKEw1234

He's perfect and doesn't hurt himself "playing golf"...which management wasn't happy with....a few more of these events might get him on a trade out of town.....at one time Richards was th golden boy ..... Then he had media issues, coach issues, drinking/partying issues....he wore out his welcome and the flyers shipped his a$$ out.....giroux has a lot more good going for him but u never no how the stress of not winning in Philly can wear on a player.