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mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:15 PM ET
There's 3 active players left from 2010.

Giroux, Timonen, Coburn

- Jsaquella


Don't forget Hartsy

edit: already mentioned... just catching up, sorry
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:17 PM ET
Don't forget Hartsy
- mikel33

Homer's next big trade
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:18 PM ET
Any thoughts Ek's Flyers "may" be close to getting rid of a D-man?
Beyond the stating of the obvious?

- FlyersGrace


I think we're at the point where they'll carry all seven and sit whomever is in the doghouse.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 1:18 PM ET
Homer's next big trade
- vejim

Thanksgiving, right?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:19 PM ET
Don't forget Hartsy
- mikel33


Emery???

Also, I think we technically still have Bartulis' buyout on our cap, and I'm not sure if Laliberte is still in the system or not.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:20 PM ET
Thanksgiving, right?
- FlyersGrace


I expect a full new 1st line by the Florida game.

Out - Hartnell, Giroux, Jake

In - Pyorala, Nodl, Ross, and a 3rd round pick
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 1:21 PM ET
I think we're at the point where they'll carry all seven and sit whomever is in the doghouse.
- bradleyc4

Gus scared me last night. Lots of mistakes...
I thought Mez was better than Gus was. But this wasn't a good pre-season game for Mez.
On a good note Coburn looked solid, Grossmann was throwing bodies around, and Timmonen was quietly spectacular.
Jury is still out on Streit for me. He had some good plays and some shake your head ones..
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:23 PM ET
im not afraid about the rangers being as stiffling as they were under torts....New jersey on the other seems to get more stiffling every year...
- PhillaBully


They will need to win a lot of 2-1 games, but if they stick to the system, I think they'll be better than people think.. DeBoer is a solid coach and he def knows how to beat the Flyers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:24 PM ET
Gus scared me last night. Lots of mistakes...
I thought Mez was better than Gus was. But this wasn't a good pre-season game for Mez.
On a good note Coburn looked solid, Grossmann was throwing bodies around, and Timmonen was quietly spectacular.
Jury is still out on Streit for me. He had some good plays and some shake your head ones..

- FlyersGrace


At one point in the second, Coburn had a bouncing puck jump his stick. A resounding, "COME ON COBURN!" rained down from about 50 people around me.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 1:24 PM ET
At one point in the second, Coburn had a bouncing puck jump his stick. A resounding, "COME ON COBURN!" rained down from about 50 people around me.
- jmatchett383

That's too bad. I thought he had a good game overall.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
They will need to win a lot of 2-1 games, but if they stick to the system, I think they'll be better than people think.. DeBoer is a solid coach and he def knows how to beat the Flyers.
- Hextall271


So you're implying that DeBoer has to be..."coaxed" into retirement? Let me call up my friend Mr. Cote to have a talk with him.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Sep 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
At one point in the second, Coburn had a bouncing puck jump his stick. A resounding, "COME ON COBURN!" rained down from about 50 people around me.
- jmatchett383


He was the whipping boy in my section last year. Loved when it was his partner or the forward who made the mistake and people still blamed him. Drove me nuts.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:25 PM ET
That's too bad. I thought he had a good game overall.
- FlyersGrace


Oh, he did. Definitely one of the 3 best. But the fans were just waiting for a gaffe to jump all over him.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 1:26 PM ET
Oh, he did. Definitely one of the 3 best. But the fans were just waiting for a gaffe to jump all over him.
- jmatchett383

That man needs a hug.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:26 PM ET
So you're implying that DeBoer has to be..."coaxed" into retirement? Let me call up my friend Mr. Cote to have a talk with him.
- jmatchett383


LOL, well there's an option. Lavy could also vary his strategy a bit in order to at least see if something else will work.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 1:28 PM ET
On a completely different side note I need to replace my Briere jersey now that he has moved onto the land of little people.
I want a defenseman this time. Considering Schenn or Grossmann. But I think I'll wait till after we "trade" someone. I would hate to jinx someone into a trade cuz I bought their jersey.
Thoughts? Who would you pick?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:29 PM ET
At one point in the second, Coburn had a bouncing puck jump his stick. A resounding, "COME ON COBURN!" rained down from about 50 people around me.
- jmatchett383


I suspect they may be the same people who sream shoot shoot on the PP, like it's a basketball game. Coburn was good. I think we'll see a good year from him now that we don't need him to be a puck mover.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
On a completely different side note I need to replace my Briere jersey now that he has moved onto the land of little people.
I want a defenseman this time. Considering Schenn or Grossmann. But I think I'll wait till after we "trade" someone. I would hate to jinx someone into a trade cuz I bought their jersey.
Thoughts? Who would you pick?

- FlyersGrace


Wait for Weber.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
Or just are not very hockey smart?
- nastyflyergirl



Maybe that too...

There's also the fact that while almost every hockey player will describe their main focus as "doing what's best for the team", in practice most are understandably more preoccupied with personal goals like winning/protecting a job/role, moving up the lineup, winning coveted PP time, managing energy/injuries, building personal stats with a mind toward contract negotiations, etc.

Especially in preseason... while guys probably aren't actively sabotaging each other on the ice, you can bet that forwards in a roster battle are cheating up the ice just that extra little bit, or turning up the ice a split second sooner than they usually would. A guy like Laughton is probably not going to pass Raffl the puck on a 2-on-1 either. Likewise, vets with nothing to worry about are trying to toe the line between showing enough effort to not get called out, while putting as little wear and tear on their bodies as possible.

That's pretty much why preseason is nothing to panic over, even if the Devils are giving us PTSD flashbacks.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
I suspect they may be the same people who sream shoot shoot on the PP, like it's a basketball game. Coburn was good. I think we'll see a good year from him now that we don't need him to be a puck mover.
- Hextall271


In my area, we only know 3 phrases:

1) SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTT!
2) DO SOMETHIN WDDIT!
3) HIT SOMEBODY!
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Sep 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
Wait for Weber.
- jmatchett383

Cant go wrong with a Timonen or Hartnell
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 1:30 PM ET
Wait for Weber.
- jmatchett383

I may wait a long time.
Or it wouldn't be a defenseman.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:31 PM ET
On a completely different side note I need to replace my Briere jersey now that he has moved onto the land of little people.
I want a defenseman this time. Considering Schenn or Grossmann. But I think I'll wait till after we "trade" someone. I would hate to jinx someone into a trade cuz I bought their jersey.
Thoughts? Who would you pick?

- FlyersGrace

Morin
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Sep 25 @ 1:32 PM ET
Gus scared me last night. Lots of mistakes...
I thought Mez was better than Gus was. But this wasn't a good pre-season game for Mez.
On a good note Coburn looked solid, Grossmann was throwing bodies around, and Timmonen was quietly spectacular.
Jury is still out on Streit for me. He had some good plays and some shake your head ones..

- FlyersGrace


With a guy like Streit, an offensive specialist, that comes with the territory. You have to hope the scoring chances, point shots and puck-carrying ability outweigh the negatives.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Sep 25 @ 1:32 PM ET
Cant go wrong with a Timonen or Hartnell
- jak521

I'd seriously consider Timmonen. Only problem is that he could retire any minute and I'm right back in this boat. I wish I had the money to get them all...
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