I think you could package Edler Burrows in the summer for a decent trade
- VANTEL

IF we are sellers. Those 2 could be a healthy return but it needs to be longish term and guys of the same age that play the positions we need them to play.

Bieksa NO.
- thundachunk

Bieksa was great at the beginning of the year, but have you seen the GA/60 minutes with him on the ice? It's not good.

A lot likely has to do with recent play, where all the D have been picking up slack for injured players, but still, he's starting to struggle again.

Not advocating trading him, but really, if there's an offer for him that makes sense for the team, and he's willing to waive his NTC, you make the move.

I'd trade any of the D if the price was substantial enough. Wouldn't trade more than one from the roster, though.

Which part was your favourite ? The 1-3-1 trap that the fans booed , the giving up the 6 th goal of the season to the other teams empty net , or the 4 for 32 shootout record.
- VANTEL

I think you're being somewhat myopic. Don't tell me you haven't enjoyed the Sedins magic over the years, or the dynamic days of the West Coast Express Line. Yes, I realize you can't be 100% consistent in terms of being able to provide high levels of entertainment value, but I would nonetheless take the Canucks over the vast majority of NHL teams.

The items you've noted are singular events which do not define the overall sample size and the corresponding philosophy the club has provided over this time.

I think you could package Edler Burrows in the summer for a decent trade
- VANTEL

That's a lot of salary for a team to take in one chunk.

Aside from Dallas getting raped I agree. I think a trade could be worked out with the Isles or Avs that would be a sound hockey move for both clubs. Whereas a deal with the Jets is not impossible, it would seem to me they'd have to make another trade to unload one of their D before that became more feasible.
- golfingsince

I am not sure what Dallas scouts saw in Gologoski? But you do have to give up something to get something.

why is it in the NBA you see bigger more multi team/player trades than the NHL?

(why do I have a banner ad for Taipei international cycle show in Taipei? I wasn't looking at cycling porn)

I agree, there were time under AV where it was bad enough. Also, it's one thing to watch your team play that way and win but another thing entirely to watch them suck and do it.
- golfingsince

+1

The other thing I have tried to underscore previously (and which I realize is perhaps bordering on 'beating-a-dead-horse territory ) is that, for the most part, I have really enjoyed watching the Canucks brand of hockey over the years (and I have watched a lot of hockey - basically since dinosaurs learned to skate and organize leagues)

Canucks play a exciting and fairly high-tempo/offfensive minded style of hockey and usually provide good entertainment value (and yes, I know there are always going to be bad games or even snooze fests but I'm referring to larger sample size)

The last thing I want to see is 90's Devils hockey or today's Nashville/Phoenix ultra-defensive minded philosophies.
- Zogg

I've honestly found this year head-and-shoulders better than last season, and probably the season before.

Not as entertaining as the SCF year, though.

I do love watching the Sedins work their magic.

I think you're being somewhat myopic. Don't tell me you haven't enjoyed the Sedins magic over the years, or the dynamic days of the West Coast Express Line. Yes, I realize you can't be 100% consistent in terms of being able to provide high levels of entertainment value, but I would nonetheless take the Canucks over the majority of NHL teams.

The items you've noted are singular events which do not define the overall sample size and the corresponding philosophy the club has provided over this time.
- Zogg

You are asking the wrong person about Sedin magic. I have been an advocate against signing them on every contract after their draft. I did appreciate them somewhat in 2011 2013.


They are not my type of players at all. I would never build a team around them but that is my opinion only.

Bieksa was great at the beginning of the year, but have you seen the GA/60 minutes with him on the ice? It's not good.

A lot likely has to do with recent play, where all the D have been picking up slack for injured players, but still, he's starting to struggle again.

Not advocating trading him, but really, if there's an offer for him that makes sense for the team, and he's willing to waive his NTC, you make the move.

I'd trade any of the D if the price was substantial enough. Wouldn't trade more than one from the roster, though.
- Fosco

I agree but he brings a chemistry an edge every game and that rounds out this team and imo its hard replace.

That's a lot of salary for a team to take in one chunk.
- Fosco

Teams will do it because they need it.

You are asking the wrong person about Sedin magic. I have been an advocate against signing them on every contract after their draft. I did appreciate the somewhat in 2011 2013.


They are not my type of players at all. I would never build a team around them but that is my opinion only.
- VANTEL

Who then?

WOW the whole tsn panel picked LU to be the starter in Sochi.

I agree but he brings a chemistry an edge every game and that rounds out this team and imo its hard replace.
- thundachunk

Lots of players can bring that. I was all over signing Bryan Allen last summer.

Who then?
- LeftCoaster

I like rah rah leaders like Toews Chara. Brown Perry Iggy Doan Benn Sid

I think the recapture gets split between the teams if a guy gets traded
- Bieksa#3

Thanks. I thought the entire amount was retained by the team that signed the original agreement. The Roberto Rule so to speak.

Teams will do it because they need it.
- thundachunk

Sure.

But both have NTCs and likely will want to go to a contender—what contender has $9.5m in cap space and the assets it would take for the Canucks to trade both in a package.

Would likely want to move them outside the division, which limits the suitors even more.

If both are traded, it's likely in separate deals.

But it's an unlikely scenario that both are traded in the first place...

Sure.

But both have NTCs and likely will want to go to a contender—what contender has $9.5m in cap space and the assets it would take for the Canucks to trade both in a package.

Would likely want to move them outside the division, which limits the suitors even more.

If both are traded, it's likely in separate deals.

But it's an unlikely scenario that both are traded in the first place...
- Fosco

Even Separate deals could bring us an healthy return.

Lots of players can bring that. I was all over signing Bryan Allen last summer.
- VANTEL

Been there done that.

WOW the whole tsn panel picked LU to be the starter in Sochi.
- thundachunk

Good he should be

Sure.

But both have NTCs and likely will want to go to a contender—what contender has $9.5m in cap space and the assets it would take for the Canucks to trade both in a package.

Would likely want to move them outside the division, which limits the suitors even more.

If both are traded, it's likely in separate deals.

But it's an unlikely scenario that both are traded in the first place...
- Fosco

The obvious answer would be the R angers. Beautiful city , contenders, played for AV and East Coast travel

I like rah rah leaders like Toews Chara. Brown Perry Iggy Doan Benn Sid
- VANTEL

Be realistic - they were never available to our franchise.

Good he should be
- Yeti1181

What's the weather like up there? Work tomorrow

Good he should be
- Yeti1181

I agree other than Jeff I thought they all hated anything Vancouver.

I disagree totally. He got a great young goalie at a great cap hit. If he added lu at 5.3 they would be up sh!ts creek with the cap. Do I think right now Lu is the better goalie. of course he is. But over the next 5 years who would I rather have. I would pick Bernier based on skill, Cap hit, Age.
- Bluechip23

I'm not convinced Bernier is a starter. He has skill. I've seen him have amazing games. But is the consistency there?
Lu would have made the leafs a legitimate playoff team. Would have given up little to get him. No one player can change your franchises fortunes like a goaltender can. Seemed like a no-brainer to me.

Salary cap is questionable. They could have moved players around to accommodate Lu. The leafs biggest problem is they operate close to (even at) the maximum contract limit (50 I think). That and paying players far to much for level of talent.

Good he should be
- Yeti1181

Troll.