Dude for OEL I'd add another 1st and every 2nd for the rest of the decade
- Giroux_Is_God

why is everyone so quick to give up what little youth/talent we have

Laughton, Morin, 1st for OEL


I can dream it, cant I?
- hereticpride

No, because even that will not get you OEL

why is everyone so quick to give up what little youth/talent we have
- 2Real

Gotta keep much of it around, build with it, & add more to it.

This team is not a top pair D away from winning the cup so why waste the cost to land one.

Gotta keep much of it around, build with it, & add more to it.

This team is not a top pair D away from winning the cup so why waste the cost to land one.
- ob18

Preach it brother!

Gotta keep much of it around, build with it, & add more to it.

This team is not a top pair D away from winning the cup so why waste the cost to land one.
- ob18

people want to trade both schenns for buff which is just

people want to trade both schenns for buff which is just
- 2Real

I'm willing to move B. Schenn but that's only because Laughton is going to be here next year.

I'm willing to move B. Schenn but that's only because Laughton is going to be here next year.
- ob18

laughton won't put up points like schenn is they're 2 different players

why is everyone so quick to give up what little youth/talent we have
- 2Real

Well, for one- OEL is youth. Secondly, you know I was joking!!

I'm sure you know my stance by now is to stay put.

Any deal I'd move those pieces I listed before + picks would transgress into the realm of console gaming, i.e. for OEL, Pietrangelo, Jones, Karlsson, etc

people want to trade both schenns for buff which is just
- 2Real

I agree with this.

I want no part of Buff. None at all.

Well, for one- OEL is youth. Secondly, you know I was joking!!

I'm sure you know my stance by now is to stay put.

Any deal I'd move those pieces I listed before + picks would transgress into the realm of console gaming, i.e. for OEL, Pietrangelo, Jones, Karlsson, etc
- Giroux_Is_God

I'd really like the Flyers to look at more options out in the KHL. I know most of the guys out there aren't that good, but you would figure there have to be a few decent d-men.

Well, for one- OEL is youth. Secondly, you know I was joking!!

I'm sure you know my stance by now is to stay put.

Any deal I'd move those pieces I listed before + picks would transgress into the realm of console gaming, i.e. for OEL, Pietrangelo, Jones, Karlsson, etc
- Giroux_Is_God

you need more than just 1 player for the future

I'm willing to move B. Schenn but that's only because Laughton is going to be here next year.
- ob18

For me the movable young guys are Laughton and Morin. You have Coots as it is and while I'd rather move LSchenn over Morin you cant really afford to move him right now. To get a big deal done those are my two big trading chips. Just dont trade for a guy on the wrong side of 30.

I'm willing to move B. Schenn but that's only because Laughton is going to be here next year.
- ob18

Yes, move the 23 year old kid who is starting to really show why he was such a highly rated prospect to make room for the 20 year old. Last I checked, Schenn was every bit as good a junior player as Laughton, and certainly had a better WJC than Laughton did this past year.

As for why do you try to land a number one defenseman, I have to say simply, because you don't have one on the roster, & very likely not in the system, either. Adding one immediately makes the team more balanced, depending on the cost and gives them a better chance to win.

It's also a lot easier to replace a forward in free agency than a defenseman. It's not even really a true number one defenseman, it's adding guys who bring more mobility & ability to skate and move the puck than anything else.

The possession numbers with and without Gustafsson are staggering, and nobody's going to claim that he's a number one defenseman.

I'd really like the Flyers to look at more options out in the KHL. I know most of the guys out there aren't that good, but you would figure there have to be a few decent d-men.
- flyer_nutter

I'm sure they're looking at all the options they have.

Wouldn't it be sweet if they land a Read/Raffl type player (that is, an undrafted diamond in the rough type one) for the D corps

GIDDIT DUN HOMERPOEITIN

Yes, move the 23 year old kid who is starting to really show why he was such a highly rated prospect to make room for the 20 year old. Last I checked, Schenn was every bit as good a junior player as Laughton, and certainly had a better WJC than Laughton did this past year.

As for why do you try to land a number one defenseman, I have to say simply, because you don't have one on the roster, & very likely not in the system, either. Adding one immediately makes the team more balanced, depending on the cost and gives them a better chance to win.

It's also a lot easier to replace a forward in free agency than a defenseman. It's not even really a true number one defenseman, it's adding guys who bring more mobility & ability to skate and move the puck than anything else.

The possession numbers with and without Gustafsson are staggering, and nobody's going to claim that he's a number one defenseman.
- Jsaquella

We have no idea what Laughton can do in the NHL and people just want to hand everything over to him already. If we have to worry about a number of good centers.... that's a good thing. Schenn would be another Sharp move if he's traded.

I'm sure they're looking at all the options they have.

Wouldn't it be sweet if they land a Read/Raffl type player (that is, an undrafted diamond in the rough type one) for the D corps

GIDDIT DUN HOMERPOEITIN
- Giroux_Is_God

They were in the final group of teams after Dekyser I believe. I felt they should have offered the kid a little more than what Detroit offered before walking away.

We have no idea what Laughton can do in the NHL and people just want to hand everything over to him already. If we have to worry about a number of good centers.... that's a good thing. Schenn would be another Sharp move if he's traded.
- 2Real

If Schenn was traded for a guy who became a number one defenseman for the next 10 years and went on to have Sharp's numbers, I could live with it. Sharp's a very good player, but a legit number one defenseman is a rarer bird than a 30 goal winger.

For me the movable young guys are Laughton and Morin. You have Coots as it is and while I'd rather move LSchenn over Morin you cant really afford to move him right now. To get a big deal done those are my two big trading chips. Just dont trade for a guy on the wrong side of 30.
- hereticpride

It's pretty cool watching Victor Hedman become a force in the NHL. He came in with huge expectations and had lots of pressure on him when he was drafted 2nd overall. His first four seasons were a disappointment but Tampa was patient with him and slowly brought him along and now he's looking like the guy they hoped they were getting, when they drafted him. Hedman at 6-6 looks like the next prototype standard for big, nasty, Chara, Pronger type defenseman. Not sure how he was left off of team Sweden, but that's another conversation. How this relates to the Flyers, is that I hope the Flyers have similar type of patience with Samuel Morin. He is going to take a long time to develop. He is lot further behind Hedman when he was Morin's age. I hope he does one more season in juniors and a season in the AHL before they bring him to the big club. They don't wanna strip his potential by playing him too early, (Toronto with Luke Schenn). Trading him wouldn't be an option right now. They're going to invest a lot of time into Morin. He's one of their biggest projects. Literally haha.

The were in the final group of teams after Dekyser I believe. I felt they should have offered the kid a little more than what Detroit offered before walking away.
- hereticpride

How's he doing over there in the Motor City anyway? Haven't really seen enough of him to tell.

Not that anyone here has either but hey ya know it's worth a shot

It's pretty cool watching Victor Hedman become a force in the NHL. He came in with huge expectations and had lots of pressure on him when he was drafted 2nd overall. His first four seasons were a disappointment but Tampa was patient with him and slowly brought him along and now he's looking like the guy they hoped they were getting, when they drafted him. Hedman at 6-6 looks like the next prototype standard for big, nasty, Chara, Pronger type defenseman. Not sure how he was left off of team Sweden, but that's another conversation. How this relates to the Flyers, is that I hope the Flyers have similar type of patience with Samuel Morin. He is going to take a long time to develop. He is lot further behind Hedman when he was Morin's age. I hope he does one more season in juniors and a season in the AHL before they bring him to the big club. They don't wanna strip his potential by playing him too early, (Toronto with Luke Schenn). Trading him wouldn't be an option right now. They're going to invest a lot of time into Morin. He's one of their biggest projects. Literally haha.
- TonyBazz

I agree with all of this but I just feel the D is in such a bad way I dont think they can afford to wait that amount of time to develop a 1st round pick. Obviously they disagree, otherwise they would have taken Ristolienen or a guy much closer to the NHL.

How's he doing over there in the Motor City anyway? Haven't really seen enough of him to tell.

Not that anyone here has either but hey ya know it's worth a shot
- Giroux_Is_God

He's been solid when he hasn't been hurt

If Schenn was traded for a guy who became a number one defenseman for the next 10 years and went on to have Sharp's numbers, I could live with it. Sharp's a very good player, but a legit number one defenseman is a rarer bird than a 30 goal winger.
- Jsaquella

how would a #1 dman help us right now? not much because you have to rebuild the whole blue line most of our dmen have the iq of a rock

laughton won't put up points like schenn is they're 2 different players
- 2Real

I think he can do just fine while playing better defense.

I agree with all of this but I just feel the D is in such a bad way I dont think they can afford to wait that amount of time to develop a 1st round pick. Obviously they disagree, otherwise they would have taken Ristolienen or a guy much closer to the NHL.
- hereticpride

TO be honest, I don't think they have much of a choice really.

Sure you can go out and overpay for a guy like Buff who wouldn't be the solution anyway. The bigger issue to me is that FA is nowhere near as reliable as it used to be. Drafting and scouting is more and more important.

I'd just like a bit more of a mix. Make moves if you can, and use the money you have available as a strength. However do everything you can to keep the youth, and don't go chasing the shiny objects at every cost.

Yes, move the 23 year old kid who is starting to really show why he was such a highly rated prospect to make room for the 20 year old. Last I checked, Schenn was every bit as good a junior player as Laughton, and certainly had a better WJC than Laughton did this past year.

As for why do you try to land a number one defenseman, I have to say simply, because you don't have one on the roster, & very likely not in the system, either. Adding one immediately makes the team more balanced, depending on the cost and gives them a better chance to win.

It's also a lot easier to replace a forward in free agency than a defenseman. It's not even really a true number one defenseman, it's adding guys who bring more mobility & ability to skate and move the puck than anything else.

The possession numbers with and without Gustafsson are staggering, and nobody's going to claim that he's a number one defenseman.
- Jsaquella

I would be willing to move B. Schenn if it's in the right deal. I've never said you don't explore to land a top pair D but if the cost is to the point it leaves me with more spots to fill then before the move I don't make it.

You and others will differ, that's fine.