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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 16 @ 11:03 AM ET
So wait. We're sitting Jay "Art Ross" Rosehov for these 2 bums?
- jmatchett383


I guess.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 16 @ 11:04 AM ET
Awesome.
- wolfhounds


just imagine how much awesomer it would be if that were crosby. listening to the nhl network recap of the pens/caps game was just sickening.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 16 @ 11:04 AM ET
You make him sound like such a mensch.
- PhillySportsGuy


I don't know what that word means (sounds very Jewish...wait, is Jewish now an offensive term?) but I find it offensive.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 16 @ 11:05 AM ET
just imagine how much awesomer it would be if that were crosby. listening to the nhl network recap of the pens/caps game was just sickening.
- hammarby31


Olli Maata

...just sayin...
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 16 @ 11:05 AM ET
So wait. We're sitting Jay "Art Ross" Rosehov for these 2 bums?
- jmatchett383


We would have also accepted Jay Rosehillaev.

Or Jay Rosehilluk.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 16 @ 11:07 AM ET
What's a salary cap?
- Tomahawk


Do cap hits not decrease during the year? Is the cap not going up next year? Can the Flyers not retain salary?

Or do you just have too much fun being snarky?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 16 @ 11:07 AM ET
just imagine how much awesomer it would be if that were crosby. listening to the nhl network recap of the pens/caps game was just sickening.
- hammarby31


I was just glad it wasn't a 3 point night. I found myself rooting for the Pens because it helps the Flyers more. I felt ashamed.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 16 @ 11:08 AM ET
just imagine how much awesomer it would be if that were crosby. listening to the nhl network recap of the pens/caps game was just sickening.
- hammarby31



They'd we wiping pieces of Pierre McGuire's skull matter off the CEC rafters...

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 16 @ 11:08 AM ET
So if Hartnell sits tonight, does Vinny go back to center and Schenn go back to LW?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 16 @ 11:08 AM ET
Olli Maata

...just sayin...

- jmatchett383


Still not worth Couts.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 16 @ 11:09 AM ET
I don't know what that word means (sounds very Jewish...wait, is Jewish now an offensive term?) but I find it offensive.
- jmatchett383


So sad you have to ask....
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 16 @ 11:10 AM ET
Still not worth Couts.
- wolfhounds


Would he have been worth... say Scott Laughton?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 16 @ 11:11 AM ET
Do cap hits not decrease during the year? Is the cap not going up next year? Can the Flyers not retain salary?

Or do you just have too much fun being snarky?

- youarewrong


They don't really decrease so much as they're pro rated. But yes, if a player is traded and neither teams "picks up the tab" so to speak, the team getting the player is only charged a portion of his salary against their cap.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 16 @ 11:11 AM ET
Do cap hits not decrease during the year? Is the cap not going up next year? Can the Flyers not retain salary?

Or do you just have too much fun being snarky?

- youarewrong



Toronto's in LTIR... so no 'decrease', as you put it. They only have 900k-ish of usable space. Flyers can only retain up to 50% of Vinny's. Hard for the math to add up, unless they're willing to give you another player in addition to Gardiner, which seems like a stretch, especially with Liles already gone, and them fighting for a PO spot. Directly trading with a team you'll probably be head-to-head in the wild card race also doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Edit: Bolland's about to come off LTIR, too.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 16 @ 11:11 AM ET
I don't know what that word means (sounds very Jewish...wait, is Jewish now an offensive term?) but I find it offensive.
- jmatchett383


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 16 @ 11:16 AM ET
So if Hartnell sits tonight, does Vinny go back to center and Schenn go back to LW?
- PhillySportsGuy


The twitter machine says Hartnell is playing tonight, fwiw.

But to play it out.....IF Hartnell were to have to sit, why not try Downie in his spot?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jan 16 @ 11:16 AM ET
Would he have been worth... say Scott Laughton?
- youarewrong


Maybe. I'm still not sold the kid is going to be an elite defender. Mason had a pretty good rookie year, then things sort of came apart at the seams for him. Maata could be the real deal, but 47 games on a very good team just isn't a big enough sampling, imo.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 16 @ 11:17 AM ET
I don't know what that word means (sounds very Jewish...wait, is Jewish now an offensive term?) but I find it offensive.
- jmatchett383

Mensch is a Yiddish word for man, it's a compliment.



Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 16 @ 11:19 AM ET
I was just glad it wasn't a 3 point night. I found myself rooting for the Pens because it helps the Flyers more. I felt ashamed.
- PhillySportsGuy

I had that feeling when the pens play the Bs
Just don't like Boston at all.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jan 16 @ 11:23 AM ET
If Gus and Downie are fully healthy they should be playing ahead of Meszaros and Rosehill.
- Feanor

I like the idea of rotating Gus in there, with Mez and Grossmann getting some breaks.

Downie should play every game for this team when healthy.

And Vinnie can go back to C with 4 lines of hockey players and no face punchers.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 16 @ 11:24 AM ET
Toronto's in LTIR... so no 'decrease', as you put it. They only have 900k-ish of usable space. Flyers can only retain up to 50% of Vinny's. Hard for the math to add up, unless they're willing to give you another player in addition to Gardiner, which seems like a stretch, especially with Liles already gone, and them fighting for a PO spot. Directly trading with a team you'll probably be head-to-head in the wild card race also doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Edit: Bolland's about to come off LTIR, too.

- Tomahawk


They could easily make it happen if they wanted a center enough and thought VIny was the answer.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 16 @ 11:25 AM ET
Maybe. I'm still not sold the kid is going to be an elite defender. Mason had a pretty good rookie year, then things sort of came apart at the seams for him. Maata could be the real deal, but 47 games on a very good team just isn't a big enough sampling, imo.
- wolfhounds


I'm just saying I was shouting Maata! at Homer during the draft....
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 16 @ 11:26 AM ET
The twitter machine says Hartnell is playing tonight, fwiw.

But to play it out.....IF Hartnell were to have to sit, why not try Downie in his spot?

- johndewar


That's good news. Hartnell has been hot lately. Once again, he's found himself on our best line. Hopefully they can continue to play well the rest of the season.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jan 16 @ 11:27 AM ET
Olli Maata

...just sayin...

- jmatchett383


they interviewed him on their "nhl arena cam" after the game, which i wish would just go away. it's the same (frank)ing questions/answers for every player and every game. canned. cliché. waste. of. time.

during the recap it was comments like "a rare penguins mistake!" and "crosby has beaten the caps in their last five straight meetings" that make me crazy. um, no, the penguins beat the capitals, not crosby. even the broadcast crew is so pro penguin it's just brutal.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 16 @ 11:28 AM ET
I had that feeling when the pens play the Bs
Just don't like Boston at all.

- Marc D


I don't like Washington either, but it was more about the Flyers positioning. They are battling with the Caps.

I hate Boston too. Such a spoiled fan base. They have more championships in 15 years than Philadelphia has ever! Most of them don't even appreciate any of them except for the Red Sox.
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