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drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 10 @ 8:29 PM ET
Thank god Quebec is still a part of Canada
- Sheppy99

thank god the rest of canada can subsidize them going to gym class all day
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 10 @ 8:39 PM ET
To quote Slim Charles, the thing about the old days...they the OLD days.

Doesn't matter how many cups your team won back in the day, if you haven't won anything within past ~35 years bragging rights are worthless.

- S Kaspar Rollins


Fixed.
Go Oilers!
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 10 @ 8:40 PM ET
I do like Subban, but the Norris is voted on by the Media who seem to base most awards on offensive stats. Babcock is insistent on defensive responsibility, so Subban will have a short leash whenever he gets the chance to play.
Also, Subban hasn't done much his last 15 or so games, so you can't say that he's going into this tourney as a hot player.

- haymac


I agree. The awards voted on are useless and meaningless IMO....especially if your a Western Conference player.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 10 @ 8:46 PM ET
A washed-up Brodeur or an in-his-prime Miller?

I doubt Brodeur's availability will impact the Sabres return for Miller.

- Losman


That is debatable...he is having a good year no doubt, but I think his prime was 3 and 4 years ago...much like Luongo's.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 10 @ 8:59 PM ET
Hawks need a #2 center, not a player that only plays RW. They have a pretty stellar top 2 on RW in Kane and Hossa. Hemsky does not make any sense
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 10 @ 9:00 PM ET
Hawks need a #2 center, not a player that only plays RW. They have a pretty stellar top 2 on RW in Kane and Hossa. Hemsky does not make any sense
- ikeane


Would you absolutely lose your sh!t if the Hawks spent the 29th or 30th pick on him?
the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Feb 10 @ 9:49 PM ET
Would you absolutely lose your sh!t if the Hawks spent the 29th or 30th pick on him?
- Jeropotato


Yes, it makes zero sense and thats a pick we could put towards a center
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Feb 10 @ 10:20 PM ET
This is what TSN has:

Chris Kunitz - Sidney Crosby - Jeff Carter
Patrick Sharp - Jonathan Toews - Rick Nash
Patrick Marleau - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry
Jamie Benn - John Tavares - Patrice Bergeron
(Martin St. Louis, Matt Duchene)

- Iggysbff

Looks good. I know people don't like Carter with Crosby, but Canada won gold last time and Crosby was a ghost for most of the tournament. He's always going to attract the other teams top defensive pairing, which opens the ice up for lines 2 & 3 which are arguably stronger lines.
haymac
Edmonton Oilers
Location: NWT
Joined: 09.17.2011

Feb 10 @ 10:58 PM ET
Looks good. I know people don't like Carter with Crosby, but Canada won gold last time and Crosby was a ghost for most of the tournament. He's always going to attract the other teams top defensive pairing, which opens the ice up for lines 2 & 3 which are arguably stronger lines.
- BetterCallSaul

I think Sid will be far more effective this time. He's 4 years older, stronger & experienced. Add to that the larger ice and I predict a better performance for 87 this time 'round.
Now Carter, he has potential to be effective if he takes that famous shot of his. Babcock said after practice today that if Carter keeps passing back to Sid, he won't stay on the line. For size & speed, I'd want Nash up there.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:36 PM ET
FIRST!!!













any habs rumours?!?














nuff said
Blueshirts16
New York Rangers
Location: Rangers Sweep Icelanders...go , NY
Joined: 07.28.2009

Feb 11 @ 8:35 AM ET
Why is Brodeur considered the best of all time? Stats? Makes no sense. A great goalie he is who has always made the big first save and the big save and the right time. But best of all time? I have watched a lot of brodeur and the devils. He faced a lot of garbage shots from outside the circles and bad angles with that torturous style the devils played. He's great, made the big save when he needed too but not the kind of goalie that stole many games. He has never been bombarded with shots consistently. And he is absolutely horrible when the puck is within 10 feet of the crease.

I just don't see it. Great he is but greatly overrated as well
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 11 @ 9:10 AM ET
Would you absolutely lose your sh!t if the Hawks spent the 29th or 30th pick on him?
- Jeropotato


Stan Bowman has been strategic in his deals. A first round pick for a rental RW when Hossa, Kane, and Versteeg/Saad comprise your top 3 RWs is poor asset maintenance and I do not see it happening. The Hawks just need to be tinkered, not overhauled. I read a story that Teravainen may be given an audition at #2 as early as this year after the Olympics. I do not see anything that Edmonton would be willing to trade that the Hawks would want. I would love to see RNH, or Yakupov in a Hawks sweater, but do not see Pirri, Morin and a late round 1st rd pick doing that. Not seeing the compatibility between these clubs regarding trade talks.
the_dough_boy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 9:27 AM ET
Stan Bowman has been strategic in his deals. A first round pick for a rental RW when Hossa, Kane, and Versteeg/Saad comprise your top 3 RWs is poor asset maintenance and I do not see it happening. The Hawks just need to be tinkered, not overhauled. I read a story that Teravainen may be given an audition at #2 as early as this year after the Olympics. I do not see anything that Edmonton would be willing to trade that the Hawks would want. I would love to see RNH, or Yakupov in a Hawks sweater, but do not see Pirri, Morin and a late round 1st rd pick doing that. Not seeing the compatibility between these clubs regarding trade talks.
- ikeane


1. WHERE IS THIS STORY? I would be ecstatic if this happens and he plays well
2. As would a lot of hawks fan, RNH>Yakupov
Richard_Cranium
St Louis Blues
Location: Imperial, MO
Joined: 01.17.2014

Feb 11 @ 9:35 AM ET
Leafs would be 3rd in the Pacific division in the almighty west.
- Kinger34


Are you kidding me ? That definitely is the more physical division of the 2, & that's coming from a Blues fan !
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 11 @ 10:07 AM ET
Stan Bowman has been strategic in his deals. A first round pick for a rental RW when Hossa, Kane, and Versteeg/Saad comprise your top 3 RWs is poor asset maintenance and I do not see it happening. The Hawks just need to be tinkered, not overhauled. I read a story that Teravainen may be given an audition at #2 as early as this year after the Olympics. I do not see anything that Edmonton would be willing to trade that the Hawks would want. I would love to see RNH, or Yakupov in a Hawks sweater, but do not see Pirri, Morin and a late round 1st rd pick doing that. Not seeing the compatibility between these clubs regarding trade talks.
- ikeane


Gagner would be a great 2C for the Hawks, but I could see the contract being an issue.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 11 @ 10:15 AM ET
thank god the rest of canada can subsidize them going to gym class all day
- drexel



Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 11 @ 10:26 AM ET
1. WHERE IS THIS STORY? I would be ecstatic if this happens and he plays well
2. As would a lot of hawks fan, RNH>Yakupov

- the_dough_boy



Yeah, well it is as unlikely the Oilers trade RNH as it is for the Hawks to move Kane. Yak could be had, but the deal would have to blow the Oilers away.
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 11 @ 10:34 AM ET
Yeah, well it is as unlikely the Oilers trade RNH as it is for the Hawks to move Kane. Yak could be had, but the deal would have to blow the Oilers away.
- Jeropotato


Hence the Hawks and Oil not being good trade partners
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 11 @ 10:36 AM ET
Hence the Hawks and Oil not being good trade partners
- ikeane


You don't think Gagner is good enough to be the Hawks 2C?
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 11 @ 10:39 AM ET
1. WHERE IS THIS STORY? I would be ecstatic if this happens and he plays well
2. As would a lot of hawks fan, RNH>Yakupov

- the_dough_boy


1. Saw it on my Fansided App from Blackhawks Up

http://blackhawkup.com/20...vainen-take-center-stage/

Here is what I was referring to in the article:

Which is why the Blackhawks may be looking in Teravainen’s direction this season. Hawks GM Stan Bowman opted to leave Teravainen in Finland to finish out the season and compete in the World Junior Championship tourney instead of bringing him to the AHL Rockford Icehogs to develop, and thus far it looks like it was the right decision.

Teravainen has proven to excel as either a winger or center and has demonstrated an extraordinarily high hockey IQ. What he lacks in grit and physicality at this point in his career he makes up for in creative playmaking. Sound promising?

The Blackhawks organization thinks so, and considering Pirri’s back in the minors and Regin’s presence will likely regulate Handzus to a healthy scratch most games going forward (especially considering how little Zus will have left in the tank after his Olympic tour), the Hawks are in need of a center during the home-stretch to the playoffs. Enter Teravainen. Considering there’s roughly two weeks to ponder bringing the young Fin on to the Hawks roster this season, the possibilities are tantalizing, especially given how easily past Blackhawks from Finland, such as Antti Niemi and Antti Raanta, have assimilated to North America hockey. So the timing isn’t an issue.

ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 11 @ 10:41 AM ET
You don't think Gagner is good enough to be the Hawks 2C?
- Jeropotato


He has the skill but his cap hit is the killer in that deal. Hawks are tight against the cap, so are better served by a #2 center on an ELC. Also, Gagner is on the smaller side. if you want Bickell in return for Gagner, the cap isn't as much of a problem, but no way the Oilers take Bickell and Pirri for Gagner (just an example). With Toews and Kane due for raises, that 1st round pick is better served to continue adding depth and players on ELCs, not a high priced center IMO
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 11 @ 10:55 AM ET
He has the skill but his cap hit is the killer in that deal. Hawks are tight against the cap, so are better served by a #2 center on an ELC. Also, Gagner is on the smaller side. if you want Bickell in return for Gagner, the cap isn't as much of a problem, but no way the Oilers take Bickell and Pirri for Gagner (just an example). With Toews and Kane due for raises, that 1st round pick is better served to continue adding depth and players on ELCs, not a high priced center IMO
- ikeane


Yeah, I figured as much.What would it take to pry Hjarllmarsson (sp?)from u guys in the off season?
bflobillww
Joined: 09.28.2013

Feb 11 @ 11:29 AM ET
Tight post, looser!
- daws44



Looser? As opposed to tighter?
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 11 @ 1:30 PM ET
Yeah, I figured as much.What would it take to pry Hjarllmarsson (sp?)from u guys in the off season?
- Jeropotato


Hjalmarsson is at a cap friendly deal, one of the Hawks best defensemen. I would list him as one of the untouchables. Cap casualties I could see as available (perhaps) would be Leddy, Oduya (who I like on a pairing with Hjalmarsson), and Bickell, I'm sure Pirri is gone before the trade deadline and Morin may be another prospect moved.

Reiterating, I don't see a deal that would benefit both sides between the Oilers and Hawks, even in the offseason.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Feb 11 @ 2:05 PM ET
Hjalmarsson is at a cap friendly deal, one of the Hawks best defensemen. I would list him as one of the untouchables. Cap casualties I could see as available (perhaps) would be Leddy, Oduya (who I like on a pairing with Hjalmarsson), and Bickell, I'm sure Pirri is gone before the trade deadline and Morin may be another prospect moved.

Reiterating, I don't see a deal that would benefit both sides between the Oilers and Hawks, even in the offseason.

- ikeane


Well we don't don't want your stupid stanley cup winning players anyway!
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