Right, but if I'm looking at it from Phoenix's perspective. Even if Couturier is included, I don't think I would do it. It would have to be a ridiculous package to trade OEL.
- MJL

Oh yeah, I agree. Even if they get good value, why move a (the?) cornerstone of their roster? Even an overpayment may not convince them.

Over Pietrangelo, Weber, Suter, Seth Jones and Lukas Krajicek?
- PhillySportsGuy

2) Jones, 3) Petro

He'd be the first D I'd pick if I could start a team from scratch today.
- Tomahawk

yes. 100 percent agree

Looked like Sweden was going to run away with this thing. Impressed with the Czechs ability to weather the storm and battle back to make it a game.

2) Jones, 3) Petro
- Tomahawk

Weber is only 28. He has at least 10 good years left.

Weber is only 28. He has at least 10 good years left.
- PhillySportsGuy

Honestly, I think all three of those guys could eclipse Weber in a couple of years.

Weber is only 28. He has at least 10 good years left.
- PhillySportsGuy

He'd be my pick, only because his physicality, shot power, and mean streak outweigh (to me, personally) the disparity between himself and a guy like OEL. But if you're talking bang for your buck, it's OEL.

Honestly, I think all three of those guys could eclipse Weber in a couple of years.
- Tomahawk

You think Seth Jones will be better than Weber in 2-3 years? I think he could be in 5 years.

Looked like Sweden was going to run away with this thing. Impressed with the Czechs ability to weather the storm and battle back to make it a game.
- PhillySportsGuy

and here i am sitting in intellectual property class. last i saw was 4 2.

You think Seth Jones will be better than Weber in 2-3 years? I think he could be in 5 years.
- PhillySportsGuy

Think Petro's already on the verge of eclipsing Weber, and Jones will be a lot quicker to the punch than Petro was.

and here i am sitting in intellectual property class. last i saw was 4 2.
- stayinthefnnet

Still is but the Czechs have played very well since falling behind 4-0. Have outshot Sweden 11-3 in the third.

Weber is only 28. He has at least 10 good years left.
- PhillySportsGuy

Plus, there's no way I'd take Seth Jones over Pietrangelo. Pietrangelo is already one of the best defenseman in the League. Jones might be, and I emphasize might be.

Think Petro's already on the verge of eclipsing Weber, and Jones will be a lot quicker to the punch than Petro was.
- Tomahawk

Maybe. Semantics really. I would take any of them for my left nut.

Unbelievable. Switzerland scores with 8 seconds left and win 1-0. Nino

You think Seth Jones will be better than Weber in 2-3 years? I think he could be in 5 years.
- PhillySportsGuy

Or he may never be. I'd like to see Weber on a better team.

Maybe. Semantics really. I would take any of them for my left nut.
- PhillySportsGuy

haha same.

Or he may never be. I'd like to see Weber on a better team.
- MJL

When you take everything into consideration; age, salary, level of play I go

1. Petro
2. OEL
3. Weber
4. Suter
5. Keith
6. Jones
7. Doughty
8. Subban
9. Karlsson
10. Hedman
11. Fowler
12. McDonagh

This is off the top of my head so don't kill me if I missed someone. Just trying to spark debate.

it sucks when all these dmen play for joke franchises

This is off the top of my head so don't kill me if I missed someone. Just trying to spark debate.
- PhillySportsGuy

My list would definitely include Trouba, Hamilton, and maybe Brodin.

I'm obviously saving all my cap dollars for Sid, Stammer, G, Toews, Rask and Geno, lol.

When you take everything into consideration; age, salary, level of play I go

1. Petro
2. OEL
3. Weber
4. Suter
5. Keith
6. Jones
7. Doughty
8. Subban
9. Karlsson
10. Hedman
11. Fowler
12. McDonagh

This is off the top of my head so don't kill me if I missed someone. Just trying to spark debate.
- PhillySportsGuy

you forgot brent seabrook I WILL KILL YOU

My list would definitely include Trouba, Hamilton, and maybe Brodin.

I'm obviously saving all my cap dollars for Sid, Stammer, G, Toews, Rask and Geno, lol.
- Tomahawk

I prefer guys who have shown something rather than the ones with massive potential. I like Trouba, Hamilton and Brodin, but if I have one chance, I'll go with the safer choice.

Less about talent evaluation and more about the amount of risk you'd be willing to take.

Oh indeed. He is looking like a stud in this game so far at least. Me and some buddies were just talking about how we underrated the swedish roster. Lots of star players there.

Back to OEL - what do you think it would take to pry him away?
- Bearintheforest

Our top 1st and 2nd round picks for the rest of the decade, as well as Akeson

you forgot brent seabrook I WILL KILL YOU
- BulliesPhan87

I actually didn't. I was thinking of him around the 10-12 range. If I had more time to think and evaluate I may have chosen him.

Also, I know it was sarcasm.

I prefer guys who have shown something rather than the ones with massive potential. I like Trouba, Hamilton and Brodin, but if I have one chance, I'll go with the safer choice.

Less about talent evaluation and more about the amount of risk you'd be willing to take.
- PhillySportsGuy

I think of it from a value standpoint... D are the most expensive commodity in the league, so having cheap kids who can far outplay their salaries is a boon for the entire team. Whereas, genuinely top-flight forwards and goalies are worth every penny... it's kind of a reverse-Homer approach to team-building, lol.

Unbelievable. Switzerland scores with 8 seconds left and win 1-0. Nino
- PhillySportsGuy

Who'd they play?