Most of the team will be made up of the kids. Still think a worthy FA or someone in a trade will be added. We all joke but the clock is ticking on Garth. Charles is not going to want to protect Garth if this team is still struggling on in Brooklyn.
- ses111

Wang & Snow will never get divorced......

Do we really know how Reinhart, Pedan, Mayfield, Pulock will be? Unless you have a crystal ball. They are kids & prospects and this coaching staff will slowly hinder their development. So yes, they might take 3 years to even consider helping this team for the future.
DeHaan is already the best Dman on team "only question is can he stay healthy", Donovan will probably not be with team, Hamonic has regressed immensely last year & this year.

KO contract will be up in 2yrs and Grabs also, do you think they are getting paid $6M + I don't.....
JT & Nelson are the only definite, I hold judgment on Strome for now....

My point being is if you are gonna wait for this kids without adding NHL talent, this team will NEVER progress....cause then isles keep the cycle going in circles...
- Ur Not Me

I dont even know where to start...

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I dont even know where to start...

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- XxNYIxX

How about from the top......

How about from the top......



- Ur Not Me

ok....

"Do we really know how Reinhart, Pedan, Mayfield, Pulock will be? Unless you have a crystal ball. They are kids & prospects and this coaching staff will slowly hinder their development. So yes, they might take 3 years to even consider helping this team for the future.
DeHaan is already the best Dman on team "only question is can he stay healthy", Donovan will probably not be with team, Hamonic has regressed immensely last year & this year. "

No we do not know how good they will be & yes they are prospects so not all of them will develop into NHL talent, but that's ok.. a few will & by the end of next season.

I dont see any reason why Donovan wont be with the team.

You think he regressed, I think he like the rest of the D was asked to do more then they were capable of doing. Ham will be fine.

"KO contract will be up in 2yrs and Grabs also, do you think they are getting paid $6M + I don't.....
JT & Nelson are the only definite, I hold judgment on Strome for now...."

If they are worth 6 mill.. then yes.. i dont think either will be thou.

"My point being is if you are gonna wait for this kids without adding NHL talent, this team will NEVER progress....cause then isles keep the cycle going in circles..."

Didn't Snow add Vanak to the team,

You all confuse additions of "NHL talent" with star players. We have added vet players over the years, vet players with a ton of experience, experience that can be imparted on the youth...

XxNYIxX

Do we really know how Reinhart, Pedan, Mayfield, Pulock will be? Unless you have a crystal ball. They are kids & prospects and this coaching staff will slowly hinder their development. So yes, they might take 3 years to even consider helping this team for the future.
DeHaan is already the best Dman on team "only question is can he stay healthy", Donovan will probably not be with team, Hamonic has regressed immensely last year & this year.

KO contract will be up in 2yrs and Grabs also, do you think they are getting paid $6M + I don't.....
JT & Nelson are the only definite, I hold judgment on Strome for now....

My point being is if you are gonna wait for this kids without adding NHL talent, this team will NEVER progress....cause then isles keep the cycle going in circles...
- Ur Not Me

I am confident in the D coming up in the system. Isles have been actually very successful when drafting D in first two rounds...

De Haan, Hamonic... the problem was that prior to Reinhart, Pullock they have not been drafting D in the 1st and 2nd rounds.... in the last 10 years.

until I see capuano and his entire staff fired, a proven NHL goaltender that has gas left in the tank and an upgrade to the defense, I'm not expecting anything but more of this crap.

This team has been mismanaged and there need to be a heck of a lot of changes before there's any chance I think we'll get better.

I am confident in the D coming up in the system. Isles have been actually very successful when drafting D in first two rounds...

De Haan, Hamonic... the problem was that prior to Reinhart, Pullock they have not been drafting D in the 1st and 2nd rounds.... in the last 10 years.
- ziggy_skalica

Only one real bust in that time frame... 8 d-men out of atleast 20 picks, but they have picked a healthy amount of D-men.


2005 2nd Kohn
2008 2nd Ness & Hamonic
2009 1st deHaan
2011 2nd Mayfield
2012 1st Reinhart
2012 2nd Pokka
2013 1st Pulock


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Only one real bust in that time frame... 8 d-men out of atleast 20 picks

2005 2nd Kohn
2008 2nd Ness & Hamonic
2009 1st deHaan
2011 2nd Mayfield
2012 1st Reinhart
2012 2nd Pokka
2013 1st Pulock


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- XxNYIxX

I guess, the current state of D was primarily caused by not drafting D in early rounds and inability to sign/trade for top D.

BTW, hamonic should not be allowed to near the other teams net...no O skill at all, cant believe the coaching staff was asking him to carry the puck up the ice.

Martin and Cal should be taking notes on how Halmo is playing.

I guess, the current state of D was primarily caused by not drafting D in early rounds and inability to sign/trade for top D.

BTW, hamonic should not be allowed to near the other teams net...no O skill at all, cant believe the coaching staff was asking him to carry the puck up the ice.
- ziggy_skalica

from 98 to 2004 the only NHL d-men we drafted were Chris Campoli, Bruno Gervais & Radak Martinek

the 5 years before that were Brewer, Chara & Redden and all of them ended up traded.

XxNYIxX

ok....

"Do we really know how Reinhart, Pedan, Mayfield, Pulock will be? Unless you have a crystal ball. They are kids & prospects and this coaching staff will slowly hinder their development. So yes, they might take 3 years to even consider helping this team for the future.
DeHaan is already the best Dman on team "only question is can he stay healthy", Donovan will probably not be with team, Hamonic has regressed immensely last year & this year. "

No we do not know how good they will be & yes they are prospects so not all of them will develop into NHL talent, but that's ok.. a few will & by the end of next season.

I dont see any reason why Donovan wont be with the team.

You think he regressed, I think he like the rest of the D was asked to do more then they were capable of doing. Ham will be fine.

"KO contract will be up in 2yrs and Grabs also, do you think they are getting paid $6M + I don't.....
JT & Nelson are the only definite, I hold judgment on Strome for now...."

If they are worth 6 mill.. then yes.. i dont think either will be thou.

"My point being is if you are gonna wait for this kids without adding NHL talent, this team will NEVER progress....cause then isles keep the cycle going in circles..."

Didn't Snow add Vanak to the team,

You all confuse additions of "NHL talent" with star players. We have added vet players over the years, vet players with a ton of experience, experience that can be imparted on the youth...

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

a few will & by the end of next season. - Just getting NHL experience doesn't mean they might have an impact. Still continuing to rely on kids, "mistakes will continue"


I dont see any reason why Donovan wont be with the team. - Long term no, bc how many Dman will the Isles have if other kids are projected to be better.

On Grabs & KO contracts, their last year salary I believe will be $5M "not there avg cap hit, their actual salary will be $5M" so you don't think they will want a raise?

Didn't Snow add Vanak to the team,- Yes but that's it? he walks and who replaces him? If Snow is going to add a caliber of talent like Vanek, might help if the player is signed longer bc any player of that talent isn't/hasn't signed here as a FA.


You all confuse additions of "NHL talent" with star players - I don't, I understand and know the difference. The only thing is the NHL talent that has been added was not better than our own kids. But a STAR player is needed for JT.... without question

Nice to not be banned anymore. Guess dee didn't like me saying she went full retard after she said nolan sent one of his guys after tavares. FREEDOM!!

I saw this on Twitter:

NHLSourcesSay @NHLSourcesSay 8h
#Breaking #Bruins close on trade for d-man, details will be more clear in A.M. #NYI McDonald has been linked but sounds like other team #NSS
- kear20

That dude posts on twitter every few weeks or months. He's full of crap almost as much as that hockeyinsiderr guy and ek.

Why is all defenceman that is available for trade have zero rumours going to New York. Is snow even trying to upgrade?

Amac didnt block that one...

Over course jagr gets his 700th against us thanks to macdonald.

Congrats though to Jaromir Jagr on goal number 700. I honestly think if he didn't go to europe for 3 years after his contract with the rangers expired he'd be on the verge of scoring 800.

Wang & Snow will never get divorced......
- Ur Not Me

Maybe someone should introduce Ron Tugnutt or Pokey Redd!ck or some other random career backup goalie to Wang and he'll fall in love with that guy.

Horrible defense on Jagr's goal and a stupid penalty by McDonald, I'm out.

You think he regressed, I think he like the rest of the D was asked to do more than they were capable of doing.
- XxNYIxX

Watch the Devils. The defenseman moves in to pinch- he reaches the puck, dumps it into the corner, and backs out. He doesn't skate all over the godd*mn place like he's the f***ing left wing. The defenseman starts to move up, looks for an opening, sees there isn't one, and backs out of the zone. He doesn't drive to the net like he's the f***ing center. This is because the Devils have a coach who is deserving of that position at the NHL level. There is no other explanation for that, in my opinion.

Amac didnt block that one...
- ziggy_skalica

Yeah...the greatest shot blocker on Earth....like Joey MacDonald....right off his leg to the stick of the other forward in front of the net...

Nice to not be banned anymore. Guess dee didn't like me saying she went full retard after she said nolan sent one of his guys after tavares. FREEDOM!!
- The Iceman

Wow that was a long suspension... Congrats on the parol

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OK, coach- you have another goalie on the bench. This is another thing he never does which drives me f***ing insane. When your goalie has his head up his a$$, take him out. It happens to the best of them- I've seen Patrick Roy give up like 8 goals in a game and get yanked. These guys shouldn't have nearly that much rope.

What makes you think this at all?? Why will the way Wang runs the team change ANY once we are in Brooklyn??
I believe we will have a better chance at signing free agents once we are in Brooklyn.. But I do not see Wang changing anything in the way he conducts business.

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- XxNYIxX

No way to know for sure. Have to think the press attention and no building excuse will make a difference. Only time will tell.

Wang & Snow will never get divorced......
- Ur Not Me

Many thought the same with Milbury.

Vukota must be at this game...

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Wow that was a long suspension... Congrats on the parol

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- XxNYIxX

thanks. surprised that I was banned for a little more than a week.