TT to Rockford is best case scenario. He. Is. Not. Playing. NHL this year. Mayyyyyybe a showcase game at the end of the season when standings are set.

No doctor is going to sign off on an LTIR that does not exist.

Stan and company will not risk losing Regin or Brookbank to waivers when both are proven players.

They won't blow a year of ELC on an unknown quantity especially during playoffs.

Learn to love the team they have.
- Return of the Roar

You realize that Rockford is the exact same as the Hawks when it comes to burning games right? What point is there of playing him in Rockford?

Yeah - let myself in for that - wish I could say I done it on purpose.

IF he's better, then it WOULD make the team better. I've given up on not wanting him to come to Chicago for the magical nine games.

But I wouldn't want to lose (thru waivers) a player who could possibly produce something in the play-offs - even if it's "only" Regin (who has done some nice things) or Rundblad (who's only played obe game).
- StLBravesFan

I agree with you. If he plays well in RFD maybe he'll force a look-see near the end of the year.

You realize that Rockford is the exact same as the Hawks when it comes to burning games right? What point is there of playing him in Rockford?
- rollpards19

Then spring and summer in Finland with food and Atlas Stones it is.

It is a difficult period for a Hawk fan from the "MMA" sector of fandom. Some think the game is still glorified roller derby.
- mohel

Ok,fair answer. I know I'm gonna be on the ledge when I see the Blues come out we'd. Nite and try to run these guys right out of the rink& we just stand there and take it. Maybe I am wrong, but I am willing to bet Steve Ott comes out early and starts a fight with an unsuspecting Hawk like he did in Minny last week, or Backes tries to Tee up Tazer.I am way old school , that stuff rubs me the wrong way gentlemen!

From Capgeek's twitter feed:

1/2 Lots of Chicago fans asking how the Blackhawks can add Teuvo Teravainen in the regular season from a salary cap perspective.

— CapGeek (@capgeek) March 17, 2014

2/2 The answer is, according to our cap estimates, they can't, not without someone joining Nikolai Khabibulin on LTIR or a demotion.

— CapGeek (@capgeek) March 17, 2014

Also ... If Teravainen signs for 2013-14, his contract will slide if he appears in fewer than 10 regular season *and* playoff games.

— CapGeek (@capgeek) March 17, 2014

For Teuro Teravainen’s greatest fans only!

Reading an excellent article by Adam Proteau on “Fast tracks, Long Tracks”
Rushing vs. babying your draft prospects

When to hold back and when to hustle them in.

I will not attempt to paraphrase then entire article, but “man-strength” is mentioned.
San Jose Sharks have a record on farming out 99.9% of their prospect pool, because “the first three professional years of a prospect’s career are a crucial partnership between Player and Franchise.
Centres spend time at wing before asked to handle the more crucial centre role.

The cap problem is the same for one game or 82.
- mohel

is that becuase he has european contract or some other asterisks?
look at capgeek, morin and nordstrom contracts are only counting partially against the cap. probably how many games they play. Not their entire contract.

For Teuro Teravainen’s greatest fans only!

Reading an excellent article by Adam Proteau on “Fast tracks, Long Tracks”
Rushing vs. babying your draft prospects

When to hold back and when to hustle them in.

I will not attempt to paraphrase then entire article, but “man-strength” is mentioned.
San Jose Sharks have a record on farming out 99.9% of their prospect pool, because “the first three professional years of a prospect’s career are a crucial partnership between Player and Franchise.
Centres spend time at wing before asked to handle the more crucial centre role.
- wiz1901

You know who sucked, Tomas Hertl.

The first game the Hawks can play TT is next Thursday against Boston....if the Hawks remain lifeless then I can see them utilizing him....if they play like they are suppose to then it will be next year. Demoting Raanta is really the only option or LTIR Zus......I'm sure, just like Bulin there is something they can find thats wrong with him.....

This is ridiculous. You don't think he can contribute better than how horrible Handzus has been for 20 games? All he has to do is be one sliver better than someone who would be in the lineup and its worth it. For someone who can't stop talking about a lack of goals, the ability to add an offensive talent in place of the offensive blackhole that is Handzus doesn't really make any sense.
- rollpards19

Let's look at the stats from this year:

9 goals 35 assists = 44 points in 49 games - in the Finninsh league - professional yes, but I doubt as good as the AHL, huh?

You would think the savior would be on more than a 15 goal (82 games) pace, and be more than a point per game, in the third level league (no offense, MQ).

No one here has seen him play against high-quality professional hockey players on North American rinks.

The first game the Hawks can play TT is next Thursday against Boston....if the Hawks remain lifeless then I can see them utilizing him....if they play like they are suppose to then it will be next year. Demoting Raanta is really the only option or LTIR Zus......I'm sure, just like Bulin there is something they can find thats wrong with him.....
- UnnamedSource

Demoting Raanta isn't an option.

And now for something completely different.Rundblad was acquired while he was on a 14 day conditioning stint,completely kosher if he agrees to it.Nashville has used this in the past to get players work and build their confidence.Rundblad has played once since arriving and if we don't see him soon I could see a case where this could be tried.It would be so obvious it wouldn't be funny though.

Let's look at the stats from this year:

9 goals 35 assists = 44 points in 49 games - in the Finninsh league - professional yes, but I doubt as good as the AHL, huh?

You would think the savior would be on more than a 15 goal (82 games) pace, and be more than a point per game, in the third level league (no offense, MQ).

No one here has seen him play against high-quality professional hockey players on North American rinks.
- StLBravesFan

So now year long stats count? How about the stats since the WJC? How is he the savior? Literally not one person has said that. Do you find it impossible that he could be better than Handzus or Regin? Tomas Hertl didn't come close to a PPG in a 4th tier league, turns out he was ok for the Sharks

So now year long stats count? How about the stats since the WJC? How is he the savior? Literally not one person has said that. Do you literally find it impossible that he could be better than Handzus or Regin?
- rollpards19

Nope - don't find it impossible - never said I did - improbable but not impossible.

And with zero evidence that he can or can't, I would prefer not giving up known quantities that have shown some signs of contributing - Regin has two goals and has shown some good energy, Handzus (slow and old as he is) contributes on the PK and has good hockey sense in a pro league, Brookbank has been useful as a 6/7.

Again: no one has seen him play against first-class pros in a first-class league.

BTW, if you have more recent splits for him, please send them along.

Demoting Raanta isn't an option.
- EKolb13

Cap wise?

You realize that Rockford is the exact same as the Hawks when it comes to burning games right? What point is there of playing him in Rockford?
- rollpards19

Not according to Cap Geek.

So now year long stats count? How about the stats since the WJC? How is he the savior? Literally not one person has said that. Do you find it impossible that he could be better than Handzus or Regin? Tomas Hertl didn't come close to a PPG in a 4th tier league, turns out he was ok for the Sharks
- rollpards19

And Hertl is 6'2" and 198 lbs.

TT is listed at 5'11" and 176 lbs., but I keep seeing reports that he ways much less than that.

Cap wise?
- UnnamedSource

Who's the back-up goaltender if Raanta is demoted?

Ok,fair answer. I know I'm gonna be on the ledge when I see the Blues come out we'd. Nite and try to run these guys right out of the rink& we just stand there and take it. Maybe I am wrong, but I am willing to bet Steve Ott comes out early and starts a fight with an unsuspecting Hawk like he did in Minny last week, or Backes tries to Tee up Tazer.I am way old school , that stuff rubs me the wrong way gentlemen!
- wonthecup10

Cup - my answer came off more smart-assed than intended. I feel about football lately the way you do about hockey and the Hawks. In hockey I like a more speed and finesse game, but I'm a smash-mouth guy in football.

is that becuase he has european contract or some other asterisks?
look at capgeek, morin and nordstrom contracts are only counting partially against the cap. probably how many games they play. Not their entire contract.
- Topshelf2010

Not sure where you are looking at on Cap Geek, but if those guys came up their whole cap number counts. Are you looking at the difference between their AHL and NHL contracts (two-ways)?

The first game the Hawks can play TT is next Thursday against Boston....if the Hawks remain lifeless then I can see them utilizing him....if they play like they are suppose to then it will be next year. Demoting Raanta is really the only option or LTIR Zus......I'm sure, just like Bulin there is something they can find thats wrong with him.....
- UnnamedSource

I don't see how demoting Raanta and promoting LaBabs lowers the cap.

Not according to Cap Geek.
- mohel

How can there be a difference?

How can there be a difference?
- rollpards19

Under their explanation of "Sliding" it says this...

If a player aged 18 or 19 signs an entry-level contract with a club (with his age calculated on Sept. 15 of the year he signed the contract) but does not play in at least 10 NHL games — regular season or playoffs — the contract will "slide" or be extended one year. The extension does not apply if the player turns 20 between Sept. 16 and Dec. 31 in the year he signed the contract.

I provided the bold.

Nope - don't find it impossible - never said I did - improbable but not impossible.

And with zero evidence that he can or can't, I would prefer not giving up known quantities that have shown some signs of contributing - Regin has two goals and has shown some good energy, Handzus (slow and old as he is) contributes on the PK and has good hockey sense in a pro league, Brookbank has been useful as a 6/7.

Again: no one has seen him play against first-class pros in a first-class league.

BTW, if you have more recent splits for him, please send them along.
- StLBravesFan

Regin? Really? He's not going to play in the playoffs anyway. Hell, PMB is way a more known commodity than Regin. There's no way Brookbank gets cut. The reason its even talked about is because Stan said its happening. And Bollig would probably be benched for Handzus.

Under their explanation of "Sliding" it says this...

If a player aged 18 or 19 signs an entry-level contract with a club (with his age calculated on Sept. 15 of the year he signed the contract) but does not play in at least 10 NHL games — regular season or playoffs — the contract will "slide" or be extended one year. The extension does not apply if the player turns 20 between Sept. 16 and Dec. 31 in the year he signed the contract.

I provided the bold.
- mohel

So what contract would be on if he played in Rockford? Players burn years in Rockford, that's what I don't get. Like if you look at McNeil and Danault, both had stints in Rockford that look like they were held under 10 games