Rick Sadowski: O'Reilly a Lady Byng finalist; Wilson will replace injured Barrie

Its really a shame. This Avs team is so talented but Injuries are really starting to take a big toll.

"A player's record is expunged if he goes 18 months without an infraction but that only applies to the formula for calculating lost wages. If a player has a fine or suspension in last 18 months, he's a repeat offender and the lost wages formula is based on number of games suspended (5/82 for a five game suspension) as opposed to number of days (5/182 for a five game suspension in a 182-day regular season).

But a player's "history" stays with him as a permanent record and the NHL can take into account any or all past transgressions when determining length of a suspension.

History doesn't allow the NHL to suspend a player who, if not for his history, wouldn't be suspended. But once an illegal play has taken place, the NHL can use Matt Cooke's history as part of his sentencing even if his transgressions were years ago.

In the playoffs there are no lost wages; therefore the actual repeat offender status doesn't come into play for a player suspended in the playoffs unless the suspension carries over to the regular season. "

That is from Kerry Fraser on TSN. Kind of sounds like he will be considered a repeat offender.

25 games is my guess/want

Looks like he waived his right to attend the in person hearing, maybe guilty conscious is coming into play and just is ready to accept whatever fate he has instead of trying to justify that he was just trying to make a hockey play

"A player's record is expunged if he goes 18 months without an infraction but that only applies to the formula for calculating lost wages. If a player has a fine or suspension in last 18 months, he's a repeat offender and the lost wages formula is based on number of games suspended (5/82 for a five game suspension) as opposed to number of days (5/182 for a five game suspension in a 182-day regular season).

But a player's "history" stays with him as a permanent record and the NHL can take into account any or all past transgressions when determining length of a suspension.

History doesn't allow the NHL to suspend a player who, if not for his history, wouldn't be suspended. But once an illegal play has taken place, the NHL can use Matt Cooke's history as part of his sentencing even if his transgressions were years ago.

In the playoffs there are no lost wages; therefore the actual repeat offender status doesn't come into play for a player suspended in the playoffs unless the suspension carries over to the regular season. "

That is from Kerry Fraser on TSN. Kind of sounds like he will be considered a repeat offender.

25 games is my guess/want
- adge015

I dont care about the length, I simply dont want him in the game anymore. He is a cancer and the NHL doesnt need any more Marc Savards and Barrie's to be injured by this dirty player. He simply ruins the games and is a threat to players safety each time he is on the ice.

Looks like he waived his right to attend the in person hearing, maybe guilty conscious is coming into play and just is ready to accept whatever fate he has instead of trying to justify that he was just trying to make a hockey play
- DDM-Coga

He doesnt care less. He knew exactly what he was doing, hell Yeo knew exactly what he was doing, you can even tell from his press conference. The Wild dont have to worry about Barrie burning them late in games and all they lose is a goon.

At least the Pens had the Class to come out and say hits like the one he put on Mcdonagh dont belong in the game.

I would love nothing more then for him to be tossed out of the league but does anyone honestly thinks the league has the balls to do this??

I would love nothing more then for him to be tossed out of the league but does anyone honestly thinks the league has the balls to do this??
- adge015

They don't even have the balls to do half a season.

Unfortunately, the fact that it was only a 2 minute minor will be a determining factor in the length of suspension. I don't think the league wants all the backlash from having a guy suspended for something like 10 games and only given a minor for the incident on the ice. If he had been given a major penalty and a misconduct, the suspension could be as long as they want. Otherwise the league has to justify why the refs continued to let him play.

He doesnt care less. He knew exactly what he was doing, hell Yeo knew exactly what he was doing, you can even tell from his press conference. The Wild dont have to worry about Barrie burning them late in games and all they lose is a goon.

At least the Pens had the Class to come out and say hits like the one he put on Mcdonagh dont belong in the game.
- Meeqsb

Which is why the League needs to not allow teams to replace suspended players on the roster for the length of that players suspension (but only during the playoffs).

No matter how many games Cooke is suspended, Colorado is ultimately the big loser.

If a team had to play with one less player on the roster, the TEAM pays a penalty and maybe they would be more reluctant to sign (much less PLAY) these goons like Cooke who obviously have no respect for the game, the league or any of their fellow hockey players.

Unfortunately, the fact that it was only a 2 minute minor will be a determining factor in the length of suspension. I don't think the league wants all the backlash from having a guy suspended for something like 10 games and only given a minor for the incident on the ice. If he had been given a major penalty and a misconduct, the suspension could be as long as they want. Otherwise the league has to justify why the refs continued to let him play.
- manchester33

On the flip side, will the NHL want to deal with the backlash from not suspending him long enough?

I wonder what chance ROR has for Lady Byng. Probably not going to win that popularity contest

On the flip side, will the NHL want to deal with the backlash from not suspending him long enough?
- ClarkHitsBell

Like they could care less. As long as it doesnt affect their pocketbooks they wont even bat an eye.

Unfortunately, the fact that it was only a 2 minute minor will be a determining factor in the length of suspension. I don't think the league wants all the backlash from having a guy suspended for something like 10 games and only given a minor for the incident on the ice. If he had been given a major penalty and a misconduct, the suspension could be as long as they want. Otherwise the league has to justify why the refs continued to let him play.
- manchester33

Dont think that matters at all that it was 2min instead of 5 and a game. There has been times that suspensions have been handed out and there wasnt a penalty called on the play.

ROR should win it. If St.Louis didn't get traded to the rangers and didn't have the falling out with Yzerman this year, then I would pick him.

Looks like he waived his right to attend the in person hearing, maybe guilty conscious is coming into play and just is ready to accept whatever fate he has instead of trying to justify that he was just trying to make a hockey play
- DDM-Coga

I'm reading that he will be attending the hearing. Also, for everyone making a big stink out of Yeo's comment about not seeing the hit, Russo posted a picture on his twitter that literally shows Yeo looking the opposite direction when Poop Stain hit Barrie.
I get that you're all upset....poop, I'm upset and our goon is the one that laid the hit, but all this talk about Yeo being too chicken poop to say anything and Cooke not caring enough to even attend the hearing, c'mon

ROR should win it. If St.Louis didn't get traded to the rangers and didn't have the falling out with Yzerman this year, then I would pick him.
- goavsgo10

I think ROR should win it too, to have only 2PMs (second time in NHL history) while leading the league in take aways is incredible.

Nothing against St Louis and Marleau, but to pull off that feat while playing a high level 2 way game and being so concious with your stick is unbelievable.

I'm reading that he will be attending the hearing. Also, for everyone making a big stink out of Yeo's comment about not seeing the hit, Russo posted a picture on his twitter that literally shows Yeo looking the opposite direction when Poop Stain hit Barrie.
I get that you're all upset....poop, I'm upset and our goon is the one that laid the hit, but all this talk about Yeo being too chicken poop to say anything and Cooke not caring enough to even attend the hearing, c'mon
- SotaPopinski

Yeah I am reading that now too, Dater posted something earlier, but he is known to jump the gun on some stuff.

I just assumed he would have watched or be presented the video during the intermission. Dont know what NHL coaches do b/w periods, but reviewing some game tape to make adjustments seems plausible to me. He had to of had some idea of what happened with that hit.

I just didnt like his no stance on the matter but I know his hands were tied, what could he say at that moment, league hasnt come down yet, so he cant hang his player out there.

I'm reading that he will be attending the hearing. Also, for everyone making a big stink out of Yeo's comment about not seeing the hit, Russo posted a picture on his twitter that literally shows Yeo looking the opposite direction when Poop Stain hit Barrie.
I get that you're all upset....poop, I'm upset and our goon is the one that laid the hit, but all this talk about Yeo being too chicken poop to say anything and Cooke not caring enough to even attend the hearing, c'mon
- SotaPopinski

I think you can blame Yeo for how he handled it. He should have been against the hit clearly but instead just said some odd comments. For a coach who is on the verge of losing his job, it is bound to cause suspicion from fans.

However there is nothing past that. I dont think people are upset that he didnt see it but just the way he acted.

Yeah I am reading that now too, Dater posted something earlier, but he is known to jump the gun on some stuff.

I just assumed he would have watched or be presented the video during the intermission. Dont know what NHL coaches do b/w periods, but reviewing some game tape to make adjustments seems plausible to me. He had to of had some idea of what happened with that hit.

I just didnt like his no stance on the matter but I know his hands were tied, what could he say at that moment, league hasnt come down yet, so he cant hang his player out there.
- DDM-Coga

What would you expect a coach to say? If he says he didn't see anything wrong with it, he's crucified. If he agrees that it's a dirty play, it makes it even easier for NHL to levy a harsh punishment. I guess he could have said something along the lines of it not being a smart play... but again, not sure why this is such a big deal to you guys. Has a coach come out before, criticizing his own player for a hit, or why has this been such a big topic?

I think you can blame Yeo for how he handled it. He should have been against the hit clearly but instead just said some odd comments. For a coach who is on the verge of losing his job, it is bound to cause suspicion from fans.

However there is nothing past that. I dont think people are upset that he didnt see it but just the way he acted.
- Meeqsb

I've been leading the charge for his dismissal, but I'm more perplexed about people being outraged about his response than his response itself. I can see why it bugs you guys, but not exactly sure if another coach would have said anything differently?

I've been leading the charge for his dismissal, but I'm more perplexed about people being outraged about his response than his response itself. I can see why it bugs you guys, but not exactly sure if another coach would have said anything differently?
- SotaPopinski

I think the situation just bothered the fans. A team is down 2-0 in the series, starts playing dirty and the Coach more or less dismisses any questions. Especially with his position it seems very suspicious. Especially with how dirty the hit was the fans are sure to be very upset and Yeo's actions certainly didnt help.

What would you expect a coach to say? If he says he didn't see anything wrong with it, he's crucified. If he agrees that it's a dirty play, it makes it even easier for NHL to levy a harsh punishment. I guess he could have said something along the lines of it not being a smart play... but again, not sure why this is such a big deal to you guys. Has a coach come out before, criticizing his own player for a hit, or why has this been such a big topic?
- SotaPopinski

Again, I dont personally have anything against what he said. However when there is an obvious dirty play, regardless of player then you should hold them accountable in some way. Not say "yeah we dont want to lose a player". It just shows a lack of respect for the game and selfish. A player being injured from a dirty play is a bigger deal than "yeah cuz of that my job is going to be harder". It shows a lack of character.

The Penguins did it when Cooke hit McDonagh, which was the right call.

I think the situation just bothered the fans. A team is down 2-0 in the series, starts playing dirty and the Coach more or less dismisses any questions. Especially with his position it seems very suspicious. Especially with how dirty the hit was the fans are sure to be very upset and Yeo's actions certainly didnt help.
- Meeqsb

I get where you're coming from. Any news on Bordeleau? I saw that he returned after Nino slashed him, but didn't notice him on the ice

Again, I dont personally have anything against what he said. However when there is an obvious dirty play, regardless of player then you should hold them accountable in some way. Not say "yeah we dont want to lose a player". It just shows a lack of respect for the game and selfish. A player being injured from a dirty play is a bigger deal than "yeah cuz of that my job is going to be harder". It shows a lack of character.

The Penguins did it when Cooke hit McDonagh, which was the right call.
- Meeqsb

Bylsma was critical of Cooke after the game?