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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

May 29 @ 2:01 PM ET
Todd Cordell: New Jersey Devils: Evaluating the Fourth Line
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
I love carter so I hope they keep him. They'll definitely sign gio which is meh for me, Jo should get a contact imo and bernier should hit the road.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

May 29 @ 2:39 PM ET
carter is the only one worth keeping.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 29 @ 2:40 PM ET
carter is the only one worth keeping.
- LetsGoIsles

Not even JJ?
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

May 29 @ 2:45 PM ET
Not even JJ?
- shvingter88



not in love with the guy, they could prob do better but im indifferent about him. sign him, fine. dont sign him, fine.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

May 29 @ 2:48 PM ET
Unlike the other three, JJ's best days are still in front of him. I like Gionta... don't mind Carter as a sub... didn't much like Bernier's play last year.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 29 @ 3:02 PM ET
not in love with the guy, they could prob do better but im indifferent about him. sign him, fine. dont sign him, fine.
- LetsGoIsles

Yeah I guess
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 29 @ 3:03 PM ET
Unlike the other three, JJ's best days are still in front of him. I like Gionta... don't mind Carter as a sub... didn't much like Bernier's play last year.
- archromat

Pete loves gio so he will be back for sure
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 29 @ 3:21 PM ET
Really hope we sign parros
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

May 29 @ 3:25 PM ET
Really hope we sign parros
- shvingter88


Bring up Rod
FAZOOL
New Jersey Devils
Location: Exit 80, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

May 29 @ 3:27 PM ET
A fourth line of defensemen is the answer.
njdevils350
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 29 @ 3:29 PM ET
Todd Cordell: New Jersey Devils: Evaluating the Fourth Line
- Todd.Cordell



Fantastically informative statistics as usual.

I think it's important to try to apply those statistics with what you see when watching the games (and vice-versa)

If you watch Josefson play on the 4th line (and the first for that matter) you see he really isn't much of a grinder or forechecker. He does not have any interest in working on the boards for the puck. He often drifts out into open ice, stands still, and waits for something to come his way.

He is a perimeter player. Much like Mattias Tedenby.

He also doesn't have much scoring touch. He'll often make a nice move with the puck in open space just to throw it into a pad. He often finds the glass with his shot. Pucks that went in at lower levels just don't translate here.

He hasn't been successful. It's not a coincidence. It's not a matter of giving him more opportunity. It's time to move on.

I would re-sign Carter and consider pursuit of the following free agents for a 4th line role


Marcel Goc
Brenden Morrow
Tanner Glass
Michal Handzus
Blake Comeau
Dominic Moore
Mason Raymond
Tim Kennedy
Jack Skille
Adam Hall
Jeff Halpern
Manny Malhotra
Brett Sutter (Carolina)
Peter Regin


That is a long list of a lot of players with different attributes. I think that says a lot about the glaring need to rebuild the roster as a whole. Personally I think it will be best to get a bigger center than can win faceoffs, but most importantly
win key faceoffs Ultimately, this players overall size (Halpern, Malhotra, Handzus, Goc all differ) should dictate whether the winger that is added is more of Tanner Glass or more of Mason Raymond.

It's all about balance.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 29 @ 3:29 PM ET
Bring up Rod
- Todd.Cordell

YES
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 29 @ 3:31 PM ET
Fantastically informative statistics as usual.

I think it's important to try to apply those statistics with what you see when watching the games (and vice-versa)

If you watch Josefson play on the 4th line (and the first for that matter) you see he really isn't much of a grinder or forechecker. He does not have any interest in working on the boards for the puck. He often drifts out into open ice, stands still, and waits for something to come his way.

He is a perimeter player. Much like Mattias Tedenby.

He also doesn't have much scoring touch. He'll often make a nice move with the puck in open space just to throw it into a pad. He often finds the glass with his shot. Pucks that went in at lower levels just don't translate here.

He hasn't been successful. It's not a coincidence. It's not a matter of giving him more opportunity. It's time to move on.

I would re-sign Carter and consider pursuit of the following free agents for a 4th line role


Marcel Goc
Brenden Morrow
Tanner Glass
Michal Handzus
Blake Comeau
Dominic Moore
Mason Raymond
Tim Kennedy
Jack Skille
Adam Hall
Jeff Halpern
Manny Malhotra
Brett Sutter (Carolina)
Peter Regin


That is a long list of a lot of players with different attributes. I think that says a lot about the glaring need to rebuild the roster as a whole. Personally I think it will be best to get a bigger center than can win faceoffs, but most importantly
win key faceoffs Ultimately, this players overall size (Halpern, Malhotra, Handzus, Goc all differ) should dictate whether the winger that is added is more of Tanner Glass or more of Mason Raymond.

It's all about balance.

- njdevils350

Sutter or handzus
FLdevilsFAN
New Jersey Devils
Location: Balls Deep, AK
Joined: 07.08.2010

May 29 @ 4:04 PM ET
Bring in Glass, Raymond, and Moore. Parros is a great idea if he can stop eating ice. He can be on the "occasionally not on the DL" line with Clowe. When theyre there for all 5 games together next season, that will be a hell of a line!

Then acquire a top 6 winger who can score.

Stanley Cup here we come!
MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

May 29 @ 4:12 PM ET
Bring up Rod
- Todd.Cordell

Todd, how you tug at my heart's strings.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 29 @ 4:40 PM ET
I love Carter want him back. Bernie can pack his bags i'll drive him to the airport myself cant stand him anymore he provides almost nothing. Gio i'll take back but I really hope they move him to RW if he is brought back. I don't think he is a good center and we have Jo who should be given the chance to play on the 4th line consistently. He looked decent towards the end of the year with regular ice time and did some nice things with Carter.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 29 @ 6:56 PM ET
I've been saying the same thing for months. Carter is a very effective 4th liner that can also spot the 3rd line if need be. He has legs, grit, works on both ends of the ice and isn't offensively inept. The guy has had some clutch moments and when he's not having those he draws penalties and ultimately does a lot more good than harm. Bernier has gone from big body with average speed, to big body and slow. Gionta is good positionally and works hard, but doesn't have much of an edge. But he did play well.

Bernier should definitely go. Carter should definitely stay. Jo will stay, Gionta probably will.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 29 @ 7:29 PM ET
http://blogs.northjersey....enders_again_next_season/

Well that would be interesting
DrouinsDrone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Camel, FL
Joined: 11.22.2013

May 29 @ 7:35 PM ET
Who do you guys want from the lightning to give us Adam Larsson?
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 29 @ 7:49 PM ET
Who do you guys want from the lightning to give us Adam Larsson?
- DrouinsDrone


Hedman
njdevils350
Joined: 06.21.2011

May 29 @ 8:04 PM ET
Who do you guys want from the lightning to give us Adam Larsson?
- DrouinsDrone


Drouin
DrouinsDrone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Camel, FL
Joined: 11.22.2013

May 29 @ 9:44 PM ET
Hedman
- dmarsden2988
I want him next to Hedman
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 29 @ 10:12 PM ET
I want him next to Hedman
- DrouinsDrone


drouin
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 29 @ 11:33 PM ET
Who do you guys want from the lightning to give us Adam Larsson?
- DrouinsDrone


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