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The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 30 @ 10:48 AM ET
How the hell is that top notch scouting?

Not saying anything good or bad about the guy, but in what walk of life is something considered a success when there are no results yet?

- Lahey


Ya you can't say his picks were top notch yet, but at the moment it looks like there is some real great picks in there. Especially with Wotherspoon, Gaudreau, Seiloff and Gillies.

Those 4 alone would be VERY valuable on the trade market right now, and none of them were drafted in the first round.
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 30 @ 10:52 AM ET
I would like to point out that Boomer this morning got a little bit of information out Conroy in the morning

Boomer "So in your interviews do your guy and Trevilings guy have the same first name"
Conroy "No they don't (3 second pause). I'm not going to tell you that."

Let the rumors start!

- tmurph


I heard Conny on the Fan this morning as well....

What I took away from it was that it seemed his list of "6" slowly widdeled away to a list of "4" hahaha.

Sounds to me like the Flames are pretty content with whoever falls to them at 4. After hearing that interview I would even put Dal Colle out of the picture. It's gonna be whoever is left out of Draisaitl, Bennett, Ekblad or Reinhart. And personally I'm fine with it!!

It actually a decent position from the Flames perspective. The top 3 teams are going to have a lot more questioning/second guessing/scrutinizing with their picks cause really I think its a toss up with the top 4!
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

May 30 @ 10:59 AM ET
So the exact opposite of most people on this site
- Bigern4MVP

Just one or two people at the moment.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

May 30 @ 11:07 AM ET
I would like to point out that Boomer this morning got a little bit of information out Conroy in the morning

Boomer "So in your interviews do your guy and Trevilings guy have the same first name"
Conroy "No they don't (3 second pause). I'm not going to tell you that."

Let the rumors start!

- tmurph

What was the topic?
tmurph
Calgary Flames
Joined: 06.06.2013

May 30 @ 12:37 PM ET
What was the topic?
- TandA4Flames


I guess I wasn't clear. The combine interviews were yesterday. I beleive each team is allowed to interview 30 players (or something like that). Boomer was trying to get some info out of conroy for who they are leaning towards in the daft. Conroy is the best source for everything because he has the best position in sports front office.

He just kinda does what is required and has zero responsibility. Eventually he will take over in some upper management position with the flames (GM, Scouting, PR, ETC). Last year I got to chat with him during the the prospect camp during stampede.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

May 30 @ 10:49 PM ET
That's a fair point, and if you would have phrased it that way it would have been met with a fair response. But you didn't, so your uneducated dikhead comments had to be dealt with .

There's a reason why most Canadian teams wait too long, the pressure to win and win now is so high in these markets that teams often hold on to ageing assets for too long in hopes of making just 1 more push (Oilers, Flames, and now the Canucks).

Teams in large american markets, whose fans have other major league sports to distract them can afford to take a step back and restock their cupboards without facing much scrutiny. Chicago, St louis, and LA were all bad for a long time, and nobody really noticed/cared.


...And to many kids on this site? I'm not the one going over to other teams boards and trashing them, and believe me the Islanders are an easy target.

- Saskabush


Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 31 @ 11:04 AM ET
I guess I wasn't clear. The combine interviews were yesterday. I beleive each team is allowed to interview 30 players (or something like that). Boomer was trying to get some info out of conroy for who they are leaning towards in the daft. Conroy is the best source for everything because he has the best position in sports front office.

He just kinda does what is required and has zero responsibility. Eventually he will take over in some upper management position with the flames (GM, Scouting, PR, ETC). Last year I got to chat with him during the the prospect camp during stampede.

- tmurph


I dont think there is a limit on interviews. I think Stu McGregor said they had 82 interviews scheduled.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 31 @ 11:18 AM ET
I dont think there is a limit on interviews. I think Stu McGregor said they had 82 interviews scheduled.
- Iggysbff

I thought they were making changes to how teams deal with prospects. I remember reading that teams were mad that other teams were spending money on flying guys around and having special meetings. It caught me off guard because we are talking about spending thousands of dollars which is lots, but is really nothing when your NHL player spending is 60mil.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 31 @ 11:26 AM ET
I thought they were making changes to how teams deal with prospects. I remember reading that teams were mad that other teams were spending money on flying guys around and having special meetings. It caught me off guard because we are talking about spending thousands of dollars which is lots, but is really nothing when your NHL player spending is 60mil.
- Lahey


I don't think it's a big deal when you draft in the top 2 or 3 to have prospects visit your city.....kinda dumb if your New Jersey and you wanna wine and dine Ekblad tho.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 31 @ 12:04 PM ET
I don't think it's a big deal when you draft in the top 2 or 3 to have prospects visit your city.....kinda dumb if your New Jersey and you wanna wine and dine Ekblad tho.
- Jeropotato

Ole Ekblad looks a lot different all clean shaven...lol....
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 31 @ 12:08 PM ET
Ole Ekblad looks a lot different all clean shaven...lol....
- Iggysbff

He should go in with the beard. Especially to K.Lowe and MacT. He can proven that he is more of a man then the other guys we've drafted the pass 5 years. Probably has more ass hair then those guys can grow on their faces combined.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 31 @ 12:09 PM ET
He should go in with the beard. Especially to K.Lowe and MacT. He can proven that he is more of a man then the other guys we've drafted the pass 5 years. Probably has more ass hair then those guys can grow on their faces combined.
- Lahey


You should look into that and get back to us.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
He should go in with the beard. Especially to K.Lowe and MacT. He can proven that he is more of a man then the other guys we've drafted the pass 5 years. Probably has more ass hair then those guys can grow on their faces combined.
- Lahey


Is that one of the things measured at the combine?

Body fat
V02 max
Bench press
Ass hair length
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 31 @ 12:30 PM ET
Is that one of the things measured at the combine?

Body fat
V02 max
Bench press
Ass hair length

- Iggysbff


Lahey just wants to make pretty braids on his ass and tie them off with colorful threads like he and his boy toys do at slumber parties.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

May 31 @ 1:06 PM ET
Is that one of the things measured at the combine?

Body fat
V02 max
Bench press
Ass hair length

- Iggysbff

Dude, get it right. It's ass hair coverage %
Bigern4MVP
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 05.08.2014

May 31 @ 6:34 PM ET
Dude, get it right. It's ass hair coverage %
- TandA4Flames

Important topic
cpltanto
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.05.2013

May 31 @ 7:07 PM ET
Important topic
- Bigern4MVP



Did you watch the TSN interview with Treliving?
He was saying something along the lines of seeing if players knew what kind of role they might fill in the future....
for example if they look like they're projecting as a shutdown defensive defensemen, but say they're like Drew Doughty...is that a warning sign?
Meanwhile they are replaying clips of Ekblad

And I think I recall Ekblad saying he molds himself after Pietrangelo/Doughty in a previous interview

Thoughts on this? Was Treliving taking about Ekblad? Is he a shutdown D or more pucking moving offensive D?


sidenote: Bennett couldn't do a single pull-up o.O
Wouldn't you train for that? at least make sure you can do ONE!?
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

May 31 @ 10:04 PM ET
Did you watch the TSN interview with Treliving?
He was saying something along the lines of seeing if players knew what kind of role they might fill in the future....
for example if they look like they're projecting as a shutdown defensive defensemen, but say they're like Drew Doughty...is that a warning sign?
Meanwhile they are replaying clips of Ekblad

And I think I recall Ekblad saying he molds himself after Pietrangelo/Doughty in a previous interview

Thoughts on this? Was Treliving taking about Ekblad? Is he a shutdown D or more pucking moving offensive D?


sidenote: Bennett couldn't do a single pull-up o.O
Wouldn't you train for that? at least make sure you can do ONE!
?

- cpltanto





How is that even possible? I mean, come on, I have no trouble doing a pull up, and I'm not training to become a professional athlete
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

May 31 @ 10:16 PM ET
Important topic
- Bigern4MVP


Who goes to Hockey Buzz to discuss important topics?
Bigern4MVP
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 05.08.2014

May 31 @ 10:31 PM ET


How is that even possible? I mean, come on, I have no trouble doing a pull up, and I'm not training to become a professional athlete

- Saskabush

He's a frail bod
The_Janitor
Calgary Flames
Location: HP Sauce , AB
Joined: 05.31.2014

Jun 1 @ 12:36 AM ET
Did you watch the TSN interview with Treliving?
He was saying something along the lines of seeing if players knew what kind of role they might fill in the future....
for example if they look like they're projecting as a shutdown defensive defensemen, but say they're like Drew Doughty...is that a warning sign?
Meanwhile they are replaying clips of Ekblad

And I think I recall Ekblad saying he molds himself after Pietrangelo/Doughty in a previous interview

Thoughts on this? Was Treliving taking about Ekblad? Is he a shutdown D or more pucking moving offensive D?


sidenote: Bennett couldn't do a single pull-up o.O
Wouldn't you train for that? at least make sure you can do ONE!?

- cpltanto

Jankowski can do many pull-ups. Because of the way he is.
cpltanto
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.05.2013

Jun 1 @ 1:45 AM ET


How is that even possible? I mean, come on, I have no trouble doing a pull up, and I'm not training to become a professional athlete

- Saskabush



yea...what's embarrassing is watching him try
and all these reporters taking pictures from behind him (part of the TSN clip lol)
his arms are like straws

I know you can take it two ways....
On one side, he dominates and he doesn't even have strength yet....imagine what he can do when he gets stronger
On the flip side, why weren't you training yourself prior to the combine so you don't embarrass yourself? Workout until you can at least do ONE!!!! work ethic or common sense issues?

Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Jun 1 @ 3:41 AM ET
yea...what's embarrassing is watching him try
and all these reporters taking pictures from behind him (part of the TSN clip lol)
his arms are like straws

I know you can take it two ways....
On one side, he dominates and he doesn't even have strength yet....imagine what he can do when he gets stronger
On the flip side, why weren't you training yourself prior to the combine so you don't embarrass yourself? Workout until you can at least do ONE!!!! work ethic or common sense issues?

- cpltanto


That's where the interview becomes important, if you feel the kid has the drive to put in the effort it takes to become a pro, then it is a positive. If you think the kid is lazy then....


Also, I remember a requirement for passing grade 10 gym was to do a freakin pull up, (or at least attempt one) and the leader of my class was 110 lbs soaking wet, and had arms and legs like toothpicks. I guess I just expect more with the way most of these prospects train & take care of themselves these days...
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jun 1 @ 1:39 PM ET
That's where the interview becomes important, if you feel the kid has the drive to put in the effort it takes to become a pro, then it is a positive. If you think the kid is lazy then....


Also, I remember a requirement for passing grade 10 gym was to do a freakin pull up, (or at least attempt one) and the leader of my class was 110 lbs soaking wet, and had arms and legs like toothpicks. I guess I just expect more with the way most of these prospects train & take care of themselves these days...

- Saskabush



Scouts rave about how hard he trains and his calling card is his compete level..

RNH couldn't do one either.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Jun 1 @ 2:29 PM ET
Scouts rave about how hard he trains and his calling card is his compete level..

RNH couldn't do one either.

- fry


I think RNH had trouble at the bench press if I remember correctly. Which, for a skinny guy, is a whole other ball game. As I said if he's got the desire, this becomes a positive. If it's from cutting corners/laziness it becomes a negative. Because all the skill in the world will only get you so far if your not willing to work as hard as the guys around you.
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