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TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jun 3 @ 1:46 AM ET
It's called the Curse of Krahn
- The-O-G

Dude, have you been drunk all day? Your posts are making no sense today.
dal_johnson
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 3 @ 2:31 AM ET
I think you and I are the only 2 that would be ok with CGY either trading down to grab Virtanen or taking him outright at #4.
- TandA4Flames


I'm not sure about taking him at 4, and my worry is that to trade down to get him they can't go much lower than 6th or 7th as I think that Vancouver and Carolina also love the idea of a power forward on the right side.

And if they aren't trading any lower than that, then I wouldn't think that there would be a whole lot added into the trade to really make it worth the move.

I'd rather see them take whoever falls to them at 4th out of the top 4 (Bennett, Reinhart, Ekblad, or Draisaitl) or consider Dal Colle. Then make a serious attempt to get another high pick (Winnipeg or Anaheim with the Ottawa pick), and hope that one of Ritchie, Virtanen, or Fleury are still around at that spot. I don't see any of the other teams with better picks than those giving up their pick unless they are moving up in the draft. I think that Winnipeg and Anaheim are much more in the mode of something that can contribute now as opposed to developing a teenager for 3 or 4 years from now. Offer up Hudler, and / or Wideman (salary retained)as part of the deal. Add I one of their 2nd round picks. If the right guy is still available, consider a prospect from the log jam of left shooting skilled guys.

I honestly think that one of Ekblad or Reinhart will fall to 4th (whichever one Florida doesn't take, or if Florida takes Bennett it will be Ekblad that falls). Then pick the opposite if they can get that second pick. It is all more than doable.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 3 @ 2:36 AM ET
It's called the Curse of Krahn
- The-O-G

I think thats more the curse of drafting a goalie 1st round...don't do it.

numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jun 3 @ 2:45 AM ET
I'm not sure about taking him at 4, and my worry is that to trade down to get him they can't go much lower than 6th or 7th as I think that Vancouver and Carolina also love the idea of a power forward on the right side.

And if they aren't trading any lower than that, then I wouldn't think that there would be a whole lot added into the trade to really make it worth the move.

I'd rather see them take whoever falls to them at 4th out of the top 4 (Bennett, Reinhart, Ekblad, or Draisaitl) or consider Dal Colle. Then make a serious attempt to get another high pick (Winnipeg or Anaheim with the Ottawa pick), and hope that one of Ritchie, Virtanen, or Fleury are still around at that spot. I don't see any of the other teams with better picks than those giving up their pick unless they are moving up in the draft. I think that Winnipeg and Anaheim are much more in the mode of something that can contribute now as opposed to developing a teenager for 3 or 4 years from now. Offer up Hudler, and / or Wideman (salary retained)as part of the deal. Add I one of their 2nd round picks. If the right guy is still available, consider a prospect from the log jam of left shooting skilled guys.

I honestly think that one of Ekblad or Reinhart will fall to 4th (whichever one Florida doesn't take, or if Florida takes Bennett it will be Ekblad that falls). Then pick the opposite if they can get that second pick. It is all more than doable.

- dal_johnson

Its only draisiti that I would pass to go for virtanen, then dal collie. I think its going to be between ekblad/reinhart as one of them will drop to 4. And most likely it will be reinhart.

But like you said, we should be able to trade for another late 1st or an early 2nd. If a late 1st, grab Tuch if that happens or fleury. 2nd round/3rd round lets get some D, although I saw tourgeon(yes it was his name that originally caught my eye) play a few times and I kinda liked him and if he's around in the 3rd a good pick.

Bigern4MVP
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 05.08.2014

Jun 3 @ 10:07 AM ET
I think you and I are the only 2 that would be ok with CGY either trading down to grab Virtanen or taking him outright at #4.
- TandA4Flames

I wonder why
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jun 3 @ 10:44 AM ET
I wonder why
- Bigern4MVP

That's fine, you stick with the consensus top 4. They're all you know anything about anyway.
Bigern4MVP
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 05.08.2014

Jun 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
That's fine, you stick with the consensus top 4. They're all you know anything about anyway.
- TandA4Flames

You're the same guy who said dal colle shouldn't be taken because Leon is ranked higher yet you want virtanen
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jun 3 @ 11:45 AM ET
You're the same guy who said dal colle shouldn't be taken because Leon is ranked higher yet you want virtanen
- Bigern4MVP

I think you lack ability to read between the lines and understand context in which things are written.

That argument was based off your "logic." Maybe reread the entire string.
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