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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:24 AM ET
He's been adequate. I just think they're even better (skill-wise) with Teuvo on the 2nd line and Shaw on the 3rd.
- bradleyc4


Total agreement there. Shaw would be an elite third-liner.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 2 @ 10:24 AM ET
What do you think the "ask" is going to be for them? Giroux money? Crosby money? Malkin/Ovechkin?

Those deals...I don't even know what I'd do.

- AllInForFlyers


$9M
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 2 @ 10:25 AM ET
What do you think the "ask" is going to be for them? Giroux money? Crosby money? Malkin/Ovechkin?

Those deals...I don't even know what I'd do.

- AllInForFlyers



$7-8M x 8 each... I think they want to stay together. They deserve a whole lot more.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:25 AM ET
No team has ever played 3 seven game series and then won the cup.

LA could make history this year.

They beat three really good teams to get to this point also.

I miss JWill, Richie, and even Carter.
But I think the Flyers did fine with the frick and frack trades.

- Marc D



they already made history winning three road game 7s... keep going, tubby and wides!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:26 AM ET
I think they'd really like to move Bickell. Perhaps they package Bickell and Sharp together for a first round pick and a guy with 1 year remaining on his deal.
- PhillySportsGuy


I agree, and you could probably move Bickell because all it takes is one team to like his size, but man...$4 million is a ton for 11 goals and 15 points. That's a contract that would be tough to swallow, if I was looking to acquire a LW.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:26 AM ET
What happened in the one series that didn't go seven games that year?

/plind

- aightwebang17



listen pal, we've already got one
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 2 @ 10:27 AM ET
What do you think the "ask" is going to be for them? Giroux money? Crosby money? Malkin/Ovechkin?

Those deals...I don't even know what I'd do.

- AllInForFlyers


Both of them are worth 9 mil each minimal. I get the feeling they won't hold the hawks to the fire that much and sign friendly deals
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 2 @ 10:27 AM ET
I thought Teuvo was a winger
- PhillySportsGuy


He's a Finn. He could probably play goal if they asked him nicely.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:29 AM ET
$9M
- PhillySportsGuy


Woof. Would you go the full eight, then, if you were giving the $9?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
$7-8M x 8 each... I think they want to stay together. They deserve a whole lot more.
- Tomahawk


If they get them for $7.5 times 8...that's a steal, because they really could win a few more Cups with a few smart moves here and there.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 2 @ 10:32 AM ET
Woof. Would you go the full eight, then, if you were giving the $9?
- AllInForFlyers


Someone would
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 2 @ 10:34 AM ET
If they get them for $7.5 times 8...that's a steal, because they really could win a few more Cups with a few smart moves here and there.
- AllInForFlyers


Starting next season, Malkin will make $9.5M. Someone will be willing to pay Kane or Toews at leas $9M. It's rare that a top 5 center and top 5 winger become available on the market. Buffalo will have a ton of money and a young team in need of scorers. Kane is from Buffalo. I could see them making a huge play for him.
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
It does become monotonous rooting against teams every year. I'm going to just try and enjoy the games and not waste energy rooting against people. It's kind of a waste of energy. It doesn't change the outcome anyway.
- PLindbergh31


I am goign to cling to THIS with both arms. I totally agree. so hard not to be bitter.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
they already made history winning three road game 7s... keep going, tubby and wides!
- -davies-

In San Jose, Anaheim , and Chicago.

Pretty impressive.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
He's a Finn. He could probably play goal if they asked him nicely.
- johndewar



Goddamn Finns... bet he'd be naturally awesome at it, too.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 2 @ 10:37 AM ET
What do you think the "ask" is going to be for them? Giroux money? Crosby money? Malkin/Ovechkin?

Those deals...I don't even know what I'd do.

- AllInForFlyers


I'd guess Giroux money.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:39 AM ET
In San Jose, Annaheim, and Chicago.

Pretty impressive.

- Marc D

Well yeah because Jwill can win game sevens by himself
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 2 @ 10:41 AM ET
He's been adequate. I just think they're even better (skill-wise) with Teuvo on the 2nd line and Shaw on the 3rd.
- bradleyc4



That depends on Teuvo. Shaw is an emerging player. He was better then adeqaute. That line exploded when Shaw was moved up there.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 2 @ 10:43 AM ET
That depends on Teuvo. Shaw is an emerging player. He was better then adeqaute. That line exploded when Shaw was moved up there.
- MJL


Long-term, I don't think Shaw is a top-6 forward. We'll see. Certainly opened some eyes this season and postseason.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 2 @ 10:50 AM ET
That depends on Teuvo. Shaw is an emerging player. He was better then adeqaute. That line exploded when Shaw was moved up there.
- MJL

Saad is the guy that impressed me the most.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 2 @ 10:51 AM ET
Long-term, I don't think Shaw is a top-6 forward. We'll see. Certainly opened some eyes this season and postseason.
- bradleyc4


The best part for the Hawks is that, they have depth to make moves. They can use a Handzus as a 2nd center, because the wingers are so good. Shaw, Saad, Teravinen give them so many options.

That's why I get bugged when they draft a Ghoulbourne in the 3rd round, when guys like Lodge & Bjorkstrand are on the board.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 2 @ 10:51 AM ET
Well yeah because Jwill can win game sevens by himself
- Giroux_Is_God

Seven for seven.

and who really expected Gaborik to have 12 goals so far?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 2 @ 10:51 AM ET
Long-term, I don't think Shaw is a top-6 forward. We'll see. Certainly opened some eyes this season and postseason.
- bradleyc4



What is that based on. Other then pedigree, there's not much difference between Shaw and B Schenn. Chicago would be foolish to move a defenseman such as Oduya, when they already have a player in Shaw who they can plug into the 2nd line.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 2 @ 10:52 AM ET
Saad is the guy that impressed me the most.
- Marc D



Good young player, no doubt.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 2 @ 10:53 AM ET
Seven for seven.

and who really expected Gaborik to have 12 goals so far?

- Marc D


When he's engaged and healthy, he's a pure sniper. He's playing for a new deal, too
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