The product is a total disgrace. They better hope Lee gets healthy to assist in the rebuild. Other than Papplebon(if he keeps going), not much else to trade.
- jstross

Adams looks a lot better. He could be an option too.

Bullpen arms are such hot commodities at the deadline. Those guys may be able to bring back a nice prospect.

I think Lee would be tradable too.

What are your pairings if the Flyers have:

Kimmo, Coburn, AMac, Stalman, Streit and Schenn?

Michael Carter Williams, Thadeus Young, Pick #10 and next year 1st for Kyrie Irving. Probably not near enough, but watching the Phils the mind wanders.
- jstross

Cavs have already said they want to make the playoffs next year. There are rumors they would trade their #1 pick in order to get a star player to play with Irving.

Adams looks a lot better. He could be an option too.

Bullpen arms are such hot commodities at the deadline. Those guys may be able to bring back a nice prospect.

I think Lee would be tradable too.
- PhillySportsGuy

Good point, Adams really has come on.

What are your pairings if the Flyers have:

Kimmo, Coburn, AMac, Stalman, Streit and Schenn?
- jstross

I'm personally more excited to see what the young kids they do have, namely Alt/Lauridsen and Ghost (who I believe they want to 'rush) can do.

Cavs have already said they want to make the playoffs next year. There are rumors they would trade their #1 pick in order to get a star player to play with Irving.
- PhillySportsGuy

You think they can convince Love to sign there long term?

Through the first 8 games of the season, prior to his injury at Washington, Lecavalier was shooting at 19.2%.

Given that he was a career 12.1% shooter entering last season, it's very unrealistic to expect him to sustain a 19.2% over the course of the season.

The injuries were a factor for him. But he also didn't play well late in the season when he himself stated the back was not an issue.

Again, more troubling is how does he fit in the Flyers intended system and style of play? Over the last two seasons, at least, his possession numbers are not good and he's not a great skater. From what has been said by the coach and GM, the Flyers will put a greater emphasis on these two areas moving forward.

I'm personally more excited to see what the young kids they do have, namely Alt/Lauridsen and Ghost (who I believe they want to 'rush).
- flyer_nutter

I'm hopeful on Alt this year. Ghost no so much, but you never know.

What are your pairings if the Flyers have:

Kimmo, Coburn, AMac, Stalman, Streit and Schenn?
- jstross

32-5
44-22
47-Stralman

If I need to scratch my balls, I walk over a carpet.
- PhillySportsGuy

there is an old guy probably in his 80s that walks around the nude beach in Miami and his balls hang to his knees...no lie

You think they can convince Love to sign there long term?
- jstross

No. It's Cleveland.

32-5
44-22
47-Stralman
- Jsaquella

Probably spread the minutes out pretty evenly with that group.

I love Timonen, and he has been my favourite Flyer for a while.

I am at a crossroads. While I do believe having him on the team, for his leadership, and to mentor young-dmen has value I do not want it to come at the cost of playing time for said young d-men.

Guss was not allowed to play last season as there was no more room, and the Flyers need to at the very least give Alt/Lauridsen a chance.

I don't think the Flyers can move Streit, nor should they move Coburn. If however they can move one of Grossmann, Luke Schenn or MacDonald then I am in favour of bringing back Kimmo.

More than anything though, there needs to be playing time available for the kids. Consistent time, not jumping from press-box to ice every other game. If the Flyers are worse overall because of that so be it. Don't need to follow the fools hope that they can win every year.
- flyer_nutter

Gustafsson not playing was more due to the coaching staff trying to keep Grossmann, Schenn & Meszaros in the lineup than Timonen.

Honestly, if Kimmo's a third pair guy he'd be a great partner for a kid like Alt.

Probably spread the minutes out pretty evenly with that group.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yeah, there'd be rotations, for sure.

I'm hopeful on Alt this year. Ghost no so much, but you never know.
- jstross

To me its time to release this dream of winning it all every year. They are out a few years, and need an infusion of higher level talent, especially on that back end.

I want nothing to do with Niskanen, who will be just another long overpaid contract, and I have a feeling Stralman will get the same. Stop giving out huge deals for mediocrity.

If they can move one of the current D they have, I'd want that spot to be filled first and foremost with Alt/Laudrisen/Ghost.

If they can move two from that current back end, even better, but I don't see it happening.

there is an old guy probably in his 80s that walks around the nude beach in Miami and his balls hang to his knees...no lie
- vejim

Like the pendulum on a grandfather clock.

Like the pendulum on a grandfather clock.
- PhillySportsGuy

exactly...really funny when he bends over looking for shells

Gustafsson not playing was more due to the coaching staff trying to keep Grossmann, Schenn & Meszaros in the lineup than Timonen.

Honestly, if Kimmo's a third pair guy he'd be a great partner for a kid like Alt.
- Jsaquella

Meh, I think Guss didn't play because they wanted to win at all cost in the 'now'. Vets like Gill/Mez give you a safer way to do that.

I'd love to keep Kimmo around for a mentor. I think that's really important for a young d-man.

Perfectly fine with:
Coburn-Streit
MacDonald-Schenn
Alt-Timonen

Its ugly as (frank), but that's the corner they painted themselves into. I look to the future of this team, more than to the win now.

No. It's Cleveland.
- PhillySportsGuy

LMAO. There in lies the rub. They should go Imbiid and try hard as heck for Lebron.

Meh, I think Guss didn't play because they wanted to win at all cost in the 'now'.

I'd love to keep Kimmo around for a mentor. I think that's really important for a young d-man.

Perfectly fine with:
Coburn-Streit
MacDonald-Schenn
Alt-Timonen

Its ugly as (frank), but that's the corner they painted themselves into. I look to the future of this team, more than to the win now.
- flyer_nutter

If Gustafsson didn't play because they wanted to win now, then they really missed the point. The Flyers were a more effective team with Gus in the lineup over Meszaros & Schenn.

I don't think winning now and developing for the future have to be mutually exclusive. Detroit won Stanley Cups and developed talent. Boston's doing the same. So is Chicago and LA.

Meh, I think Guss didn't play because they wanted to win at all cost in the 'now'. Vets like Gill/Mez give you a safer way to do that.

I'd love to keep Kimmo around for a mentor. I think that's really important for a young d-man.

Perfectly fine with:
Coburn-Streit
MacDonald-Schenn
Alt-Timonen

Its ugly as (frank), but that's the corner they painted themselves into. I look to the future of this team, more than to the win now.
- flyer_nutter

I wouldnt be upset if Hexy traded the whole D

Niskanen and to a lesser degree Stralman scare the poop out of me.

Huge contract, for middle of the road talent. Enough of that.

Dis lightening though

Meh, I think Guss didn't play because they wanted to win at all cost in the 'now'. Vets like Gill/Mez give you a safer way to do that.

I'd love to keep Kimmo around for a mentor. I think that's really important for a young d-man.

Perfectly fine with:
Coburn-Streit
MacDonald-Schenn
Alt-Timonen

Its ugly as (frank), but that's the corner they painted themselves into. I look to the future of this team, more than to the win now.
- flyer_nutter

What about signing a guy like Andre Benoit to a 1.5 to 2mil contract?

To me its time to release this dream of winning it all every year. They are out a few years, and need an infusion of higher level talent, especially on that back end.

I want nothing to do with Niskanen, who will be just another long overpaid contract, and I have a feeling Stralman will get the same. Stop giving out huge deals for mediocrity.

If they can move one of the current D they have, I'd want that spot to be filled first and foremost with Alt/Laudrisen/Ghost.

If they can move two from that current back end, even better, but I don't see it happening.
- flyer_nutter

I'd love to see them move Grossman and resign Kimo as a 1 year bridge. If they can get a pick or 2 for Grossman(given the price of Dmen they should be able to).