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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:20 PM ET
I'm sure he was. But last time I checked Assistant GM's don't have final say.
- PLindbergh31



So what does that mean? Name one player on the team that Hextall acquired? And does that mean that he's going to trade all of the players that he didn't acquire, or just the ones that some fans don't like?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 4 @ 4:20 PM ET
if true, this is awesome

Ian Mendes ‏@ian_mendes 9m

Just had the Courtnall Bros. on the show and Geoff admitted that his good friend at EA Sports boosted his player ratings back in the day.

- wilsonecho91


http://sports.yahoo.com/n...why-he-rul?urn=nhl-wp6220
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 4 @ 4:21 PM ET
Flyers just acquired MacDonald, and he has added skill and mobility to the defense. As well as being solid defensively. His deal is market value. Why on earth would the Flyers want to trade him this off season?
- MJL


They'd like to continue the tradition of trading guys right after they sign extensions.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:22 PM ET


I purposely asked because I wanted to see the HB edit. Stellar.

- PLindbergh31

wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:23 PM ET
http://sports.yahoo.com/n...why-he-rul?urn=nhl-wp6220
- Tomahawk


who knew? These guys were fun to play with. now i know why.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 4 @ 4:24 PM ET
Flyers just acquired MacDonald, and he has added skill and mobility to the defense. As well as being solid defensively. His deal is market value. Why on earth would the Flyers want to trade him this off season?
- MJL


Tomahawk doesn't think he's very good, and thinks the contract is too long and for too much money. Hextall seemed to agree with the latter part a little bit.

I am more of a fan of McDonald but would have no problem if they traded him for a good return. Maybe they could trade him for picks if they had another defensemen lined up that Hextall liked more. Someone like Stralman.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:25 PM ET

- hammarby31


that trophy looks like a kid's toy sword or cup that collapses into something small and then you can expand into full size.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 4 @ 4:26 PM ET
So what does that mean? Name one player on the team that Hextall acquired? And does that mean that he's going to trade all of the players that he didn't acquire, or just the ones that some fans don't like?
- MJL


It means.....

Frog went a-kkkkk-courtin', and he did ride, kkkkkk-crambone
Frog went a-kkkkk-courtin', and he did ride, kkkkkk-crambone
Frog went a-kkk-courtin', and he did ride.
With a sword and a pppf-ppf-pf-pp(pistol) revolver by his side. kkkkkk-crambone

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 4 @ 4:26 PM ET
Tomahawk doesn't think he's very good, and thinks the contract is too long and for too much money.
- Feanor


It is too long. It is too much money. It is market value.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:27 PM ET
It means.....

Frog went a-kkkkk-courtin', and he did ride, kkkkkk-crambone
Frog went a-kkkkk-courtin', and he did ride, kkkkkk-crambone
Frog went a-kkk-courtin', and he did ride.
With a sword and a pppf-ppf-pf-pp(pistol) revolver by his side. kkkkkk-crambone


- PLindbergh31


UNCLE PECOS FTW
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:27 PM ET
?
- PLindbergh31


Richardie betts - allman brothers guitarist.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 4 @ 4:27 PM ET
Tomahawk doesn't think he's very good, and thinks the contract is too long and for too much money.
- Feanor



I wasn't planning on jumping in... thanks for throwing me over the side.


I am more of a fan of McDonald but would have no problem if they traded him for a good return. Maybe they could trade him for picks if they had another defensemen lined up that Hextall liked more. Someone like Stralman.
- Feanor


This. He's never going to be more valuable/movable than he is right now.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:28 PM ET
that trophy looks like a kid's toy sword or cup that collapses into something small and then you can expand into full size.
- wilsonecho91


exactly. a telescoping cup. awful. which is why i posted it.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:29 PM ET
UNCLE PECOS FTW
- wilsonecho91


the best part about uncle pecos is his little boots and breakfast club jig.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:30 PM ET
exactly. a telescoping cup. awful. which is why i posted it.
- hammarby31


Yes, exactly, exactly.
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Jun 4 @ 4:30 PM ET
You're all ugly.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 4 @ 4:31 PM ET
UNCLE PECOS FTW
- wilsonecho91


all time classic. I broke a guitar string nnnnnephew.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:35 PM ET
Tomahawk doesn't think he's very good, and thinks the contract is too long and for too much money. Hextall seemed to agree with the latter part a little bit.

I am more of a fan of McDonald but would have no problem if they traded him for a good return. Maybe they could trade him for picks if they had another defensemen lined up that Hextall liked more. Someone like Stralman.

- Feanor



What Hextall basically said about the contract, is that they, meaning the Flyers wanted to pay a little less. And the MacDonald camp wanted a little more. So they came to a compromise and maybe both sides are a little unhappy, so that makes it a good deal. It's also market value.

I think Tomahawk is wrong, if that's what he thinks. MacDonald is a good defenseman, who makes the Flyers better. I'm never against any trade that makes the Flyers a better team. And I would definitely trade him, if a deal does that. But other then that, I think it was a good trade and signing.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 4 @ 4:36 PM ET
What Hextall basically said about the contract, is that they, meaning the Flyers wanted to pay a little less. And the MacDonald camp wanted a little more. So they came to a compromise and maybe both sides are a little unhappy, so that makes it a good deal. It's also market value.

I think Tomahawk is wrong. MacDonald is a good defenseman, who makes the Flyers better. I'm never against any trade that makes the Flyers a better team. And I would definitely trade him, if a deal does that. But other then that, I think it was a good trade and signing.

- MJL


I think you remember my thoughts on that contract and trade to bring him in.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 4:36 PM ET





This. He's never going to be more valuable/movable than he is right now.

- Tomahawk



So is Simmonds and Voracek. Should they be traded also? That is never a reason to trade a player.
It is also an assumption. MacDonald could flourish as a Flyer and his trade value could soar.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 4 @ 4:37 PM ET
So Paul Stewart writes for HuffPost now?

http://www.huffingtonpost...446666.html?utm_hp_ref=tw
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 4 @ 4:38 PM ET
I think you remember my thoughts on that contract and trade to bring him in.


- flyer_nutter


It was such a great trade and signing that it got Holmgren a promotion.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 4 @ 4:38 PM ET
This. He's never going to be more valuable/movable than he is right now.
- Tomahawk


For all we know Hextall's only input on the MacDonald signing was insisting that he didn't get any sort of NTC/NMC.

Last draft the Oilers keep pestering us about Coburn and making crappy offers, but now they have missed the playoffs yet again and we have another minute-eating defenseman who's not as good as Coburn, but is locked up for six years. And their only signed defensive veteran is Andrew Ference.
FlyersSteve118
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 10.02.2013

Jun 4 @ 4:41 PM ET
So is Simmonds and Voracek. Should they be traded also? That is never a reason to trade a player.
- MJL


You really just pull at the tiniest string you can find to start an argument don't you? You don't even make an argument. You just keep the other person running in circles....
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 4 @ 4:42 PM ET
So is Simmonds and Voracek. Should they be traded also? That is never a reason to trade a player.
- MJL



Simmer and Voracek are young, improving, core players.

If a signed AMac can get you a RFA Jake Gardiner or RFA Jeff Petry+ from teams that are notoriously in need of 'improving' on the defensive side of the puck, I'm guessing Hexy would be pretty interested in a move like that. Makes sense from both the cap and hockey angles.
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