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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:42 PM ET
Strong on his skates yes....Bigger frame than Kruger but don't know if he can hold up an entire year as a banger unless he gets stronger and heavier.
- Al


Nordstrom is all muscle. The problem is that he needs 10 to 20 more lbs of it.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

Jun 9 @ 4:45 PM ET
Nordstrom is all muscle. The problem is that he needs 10 to 20 more lbs of it.
- EKolb13



I'm sure they are working with him and gaining 20 pounds could happen for me this month....Sometimes younger players have trouble putting on weight.

We will see Q. likes him and seems smart with the puck.

Hawks may not be able to stand pat this summer. Competition is fierce big names could be in play around NHL. Fox Chgo:http://bit.ly/1oDBYHR


carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:46 PM ET
Less than 1 hour here, and more comments than the entire month to date on the Blues blog.

EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:46 PM ET
I'm sure they are working with him and gaining 20 pounds could happen for me this month....Sometimes younger players have trouble putting on weight.

We will see Q. likes him and seems smart with the puck.

Hawks may not be able to stand pat this summer. Competition is fierce big names could be in play around NHL. Fox Chgo:http://bit.ly/1oDBYHR

- Al


Yeah, I used to have that problem. I still wish I did.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 9 @ 4:49 PM ET
The muscle is there. The weight isn't.
- EKolb13


Someone needs to take him to Portillo's.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Jun 9 @ 4:50 PM ET
That's not really the point I was making. More about how the fan base perceives losing a guy, which is why Steve said they might be baiting the hook to soften the blow IF he leaves.
- eburgio


I dont think theres anything wrong with a fan base giving a guy credit when its due (Sharp: IF he leaves), the Derosa poop was ridiculous though. Seeing as how he didnt help the Cubs do anything
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 9 @ 4:51 PM ET
I dont think theres anything wrong with a fan base giving a guy credit when its due (Sharp: IF he leaves), the Derosa poop was ridiculous though. Seeing as how he didnt help the Cubs do anything
- BlazinMike


Again, not going to argue with you. But so much of the fan uproar over him leaving was that he was a likeable guy and the ladies loved him.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 9 @ 4:51 PM ET
Less than 1 hour here, and more comments than the entire month to date on the Blues blog.


- carcus


We'd be willing to ship a few of our posters over there in some sort of permanent exchange program.
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jun 9 @ 4:52 PM ET
Less than 1 hour here, and more comments than the entire month to date on the Blues blog.


- carcus

Unemployment rate is very high here in Chicago.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:53 PM ET
Unemployment rate is very high here in Chicago.
- Canardhawk


We should open a jort factory
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jun 9 @ 4:54 PM ET
We should open a jort factory
- Return of the Roar

You got me on that one?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:55 PM ET
We should open a jort factory
- Return of the Roar


I spit out my coffee reading this. Well played.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:55 PM ET
We should open a jort factory
- Return of the Roar

EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:56 PM ET
You got me on that one?
- Canardhawk


Look "jort" up on the internet.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 9 @ 4:56 PM ET
We should open a jort factory
- Return of the Roar


or Jart. Remember all the fun (and eyes lost) due to Jarts? Wussification of America...
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Jun 9 @ 4:57 PM ET
Again, not going to argue with you. But so much of the fan uproar over him leaving was that he was a likeable guy and the ladies loved him.
- eburgio


I hear ya, not trying to argue, just agreeing (i think) on the Derosa thing. It was dumb, he wasnt that great.
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Jun 9 @ 4:59 PM ET
or Jart. Remember all the fun (and eyes lost) due to Jarts? Wussification of America...
- eburgio


Jarts is a really fun game.
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jun 9 @ 5:00 PM ET
Look "jort" up on the internet.
- EKolb13

Okay, I'm caught up, it takes me awhile you know.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 9 @ 5:01 PM ET
Look "jort" up on the internet.
- EKolb13


It's possible you could have just asked him what he was wearing.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jun 9 @ 5:04 PM ET
It's possible you could have just asked him what he was wearing.
- HawkintheD

EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 9 @ 5:05 PM ET
It's possible you could have just asked him what he was wearing.
- HawkintheD


No.
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jun 9 @ 5:05 PM ET
No.
- EKolb13

Tell the truth EK.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 9 @ 5:10 PM ET
Tell the truth EK.
- carcus


I am.
Canardhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Pilot, NC
Joined: 02.13.2014

Jun 9 @ 5:11 PM ET
No.
- EKolb13

Yeah, tell the truth EK
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Jun 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
Most on this board will go apoplectic over this, but I suspect the Hawks are more likely to deal Shaw than Kruger, although I don't think either is being shopped. Shaw is probably never going to be more than what he is, Kruger will be.

Kruger is, or will soon be, a classic shutdown 3C. Shaw is really more of a true wing, on a team loaded at wing and weak at center, and therefore already somewhat less valuable.

Kruger is NOT physically mature. When he is, he WILL be a better player than he is today. And he is already a good NHL player, with real value as a PK guy and able to spot anywhere from lines 2-4 as a center, great defensively.

- John Jaeckel


He is 24 though...

I mean he looks like a little kid but it isn't like he is a boy either.

I agree that he can get stronger, and I'm surprised they haven't been more aggressive with him in the weight room, but if he hasn't grown or developed physically much in the last few years not sure how much more is realistic to expect.

He's listed at 180 and isn't a tree trunk like Smith. Maybe he can bulk to closer to 200 in two years but maybe that just isn't ideal for his frame.

Good player player for sure and if he can do better to avoid getting lit up like a Christmas tree I think he will have a solid career but I have no clue where his peak is physically. It isn't like he hasn't been a pro for a while and had access to great coaches both physio and nutritional wise.
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