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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 9 @ 9:48 PM ET
Is there any market for Roszival and Versteeg, both at $2.2MM - even as a straight salary dump?
- StLBravesFan


Probably for teams trying to reach the cap floor...
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 9 @ 9:48 PM ET
Is there any market for Roszival and Versteeg, both at $2.2MM - even as a straight salary dump?
- StLBravesFan

No. not really. Rozy is fine. And Versteeg? A throw in to a team that needs to get to the floor? Maybe.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 9 @ 9:49 PM ET
If I didn't believe that Dahlbeck had a legit shot, I wouldn't post it.
- EKolb13



You could have been stirring the pot....it's been know to happen (pre-ref days).

I will be interested to see what the kid can do.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 9 @ 9:50 PM ET
I wouldn't even recommend such nonsense..

His style of skating is what destroys his ability to actually defend..

Leddy needs to know when to slow it down and when to speed it up - he doesn't understand that...

He lacks timing, and puts himself in bad situations, not to mention has no idea how to really time a stretch pass..

The kid has the potential to be elite but his hockey sense isn't there. Obviously these are all opinions but I think Leddy overvalues his skill-set.

That's why he's playing #5 when everyone is healthy.

- Tazer19

He is as dumb as a box of rocks and he sucks. He needs to be gone.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 9 @ 9:50 PM ET
Game, set and match at the Garden?
grinder10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 04.04.2009

Jun 9 @ 9:51 PM ET
Can someone tell me wtf Rundblad has done to indicate he should be on the Hawks?
- Elbows15


Do you have any easier questions?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 9 @ 9:52 PM ET
You could have been stirring the pot....it's been know to happen (pre-ref days).

I will be interested to see what the kid can do.

- DarthKane

He looks like he has a real shot to me. Typical Swede. He knows how to play his position. Skates well. Uses position and angles well. Can play the body of needed.
grinder10
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 04.04.2009

Jun 9 @ 9:53 PM ET
You could have been stirring the pot....it's been know to happen (pre-ref days).

I will be interested to see what the kid can do.

- DarthKane


I'll second Eli on Dahlbeck. Can't see why he couldn't get his feet wet on the 3rd pairing next year. He looks solid.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 9 @ 9:53 PM ET
He looks like he has a real shot to me. Typical Swede. He knows how to play his position. Skates well. Uses position and angles well. Can play the body of needed.
- Elbows15



Who wouldn't like that!
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 9 @ 9:53 PM ET
Do you have any easier questions?
- grinder10

yes. But none I really want the answers too.
Tazer19
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 09.30.2008

Jun 9 @ 9:54 PM ET
Do you honestly believe Dahlbeck is NHL ready? I'm not saying he isn't, I'm just curious what you think.
- DarthKane


Dhalbeck is ready for the NHL - a few games of course but not 82 games.

How many players that aren't top 5 picks beyond Shaw just walk into the NHL and are ready?

2%


Sundevil
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.24.2012

Jun 9 @ 9:54 PM ET
Is there any market for Roszival and Versteeg, both at $2.2MM - even as a straight salary dump?
- StLBravesFan


Maybe they will be roommates at the Clocktower inn in Rockford next year
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 9 @ 9:54 PM ET
Stirring the pot (pre-ref days ) or not, I still stand by what I see and post.
- EKolb13



And I trust your judgement with the IceHogs.
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Jun 9 @ 9:55 PM ET
Bollig at $550k is very nice and a great 4th liner. Bollig at $1.25M is a different story. If he continues to improve and adds more offense, then fine. TBD on that offense thing.

That's how I look at it. Not that he needs to go, per se...but rather, does he need to be at that cap hit?!?!

- eburgio

I agree with the 550 K, not that it means a hill of beans but once the league caught up to Bollig in the fight card, he got his arse handed to him more times than not. He'll be the modern day Maggie, he'll show up to the dance .........and lose. sometimes that is the quickest way for your team to lose momentum when your supposed tough guy gets beat on in certian games. now to the revelant stuff, my vote: if Kane say's it is OK.... Vermette, then you groom McNeill, don't lose TT and he stays in Rockford, & maybe Danault makes it also next year, be happy with Vermette, McNeill & Danault as the new Hawks come the fall,
now on the blockbuster front, poop, fricken Lars Eller & Jared Tinordi??? , would Bowman have the stones to approach Bergy to discuss something like that? .........ok enough, put the hockey cards away for the night!
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 9 @ 9:56 PM ET
Have you seen this guy before, wiz?
- EKolb13



Yeah, I am not home to check, but pretty sure he was on both the Under 19 and Ubnder 20 World Junior Tournaments when John Tavares was playing in those tourneys. I have all those games loaded noto a separte disk drive (thibk I will ever a) find something if I do look for it or b) know where to look?)

He didn't jump out at you like a big scorer guy, but had hands, and was really physical on the wall with some short area quickness. And he was pretty physical on that Swedish team that wasn't...

The thing is every year prospects get more complete.
So the kid already has an area of expertise across the pond as penalty-killer.

If soneone thinks he can come to the pro game keep up and tenderize St. Louis
meat, far be it for me to put a damper on him. I am also certain he is bigger than 205 he is listed, but we will see.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 9 @ 9:58 PM ET
Maybe they will be roommates at the Clocktower inn in Rockford next year
- Sundevil

That's a lot of dead cap space.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 9 @ 9:59 PM ET
Game, set and match at the Garden?
- StLBravesFan

u.s. Open?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 9 @ 10:00 PM ET
That's a lot of dead cap space.
- Elbows15


Indeed.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 9 @ 10:01 PM ET
Yeah, I am not home to check, but pretty sure he was on both the Under 19 and Ubnder 20 World Junior Tournaments when John Tavares was playing in those tourneys. I have all those games loaded noto a separte disk drive (thibk I will ever a) find something if I do look for it or b) know where to look?)

He didn't jump out at you like a big scorer guy, but had hands, and was really physical on the wall with some short area quickness. And he was pretty physical on that Swedish team that wasn't...

The thing is every year prospects get more complete.
So the kid already has an area of expertise across the pond as penalty-killer.

If soneone thinks he can come to the pro game keep up and tenderize St. Louis
meat, far be it for me to put a damper on him. I am also certain he is bigger than 205 he is listed, but we will see.

- wiz1901


Thanks wiz.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 9 @ 10:01 PM ET
And I trust your judgement with the IceHogs.
- DarthKane


Thank you.
Tazer19
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 09.30.2008

Jun 9 @ 10:02 PM ET
Stirring the pot (pre-ref days ) or not, I still stand by what I see and post.
- EKolb13


Yeah right.... Before I stopped playing semi-pro/senior league hockey - the sport was almost anarchy.

I don't even know with what the refs refuse to acknowledge now.
reeder16
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.13.2013

Jun 9 @ 10:04 PM ET
That's a lot of dead cap space.
- Elbows15


That was the idea behind my trade proposal for Anisimov; dump Leddy and Rozy and get bigger in the middle, essentially straight up for Freddy.
I cant imagine anyone taking Versteeg off Bowman's hands
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 9 @ 10:05 PM ET
Thank you.
- EKolb13



You are welcome.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 9 @ 10:06 PM ET

Another thing about TT is the fact he has elite talent, he's like a hybrid between Kane and Malkin.


- Tazer19
you are a hybrid between

Tell you what Tazer19, at this point all we know for certain is that you are a hybrid between a cheerleader and the Hawk press secretary during the bad years.


Right now TT is a hybrid between Mikael Granlund and Erik Haula.

and since they have shown some expertise at the pro level even that is a stretch...
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Jun 9 @ 10:07 PM ET
I already have on HF boards and the consensus of Nucks fans was take it an run and don't look back.

Although my deal was a 3-way deal with the Flames with Hayes and Rozy going to the Flames for a 1st round pick that went to the Nucks.

So in the end the Nucks got TT, Bickell, Rundblad, Hawks 1st and Flames 2015 1st.

Hawks got Kesler at 50%

Flames got Hayes (rights, which are worth a 2nd round pick alone) and Rozy for their 1st in 2015.

Hawks get Kesler @ 2.75 and about 10 mil in cap space.

Hawks give up basically nothing but TT and Bickell.

- Tazer19


Just catching up. Did Tazer ever cop to forgetting to red font this?
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