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sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
You sure? Markov made that in his last contract, I didn't read anything that had the number released yet.
- Steven_Dean


it's all over twitter
Shenanigans20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
Phanuef+Pick for ROR
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
Subban get's traded in 5,4,3,2......
- Alexzanki


subban gets 8 years 68 mil in 5,4,3,2...........
Shenanigans20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:05 PM ET
Do you ever get pissed at your "sources"?

Where the hell were you on that one guys!!!??

Nothing uve said has happened, and once again, totally missed the boat on what did actually happen

- hugefemale dog77

Lol
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:05 PM ET
Eklund: BIG Rumor Update: 23 Players Updated BIG TRADE:Umberger for Hartnell Done
- Eklund



is this the big trade from last week?
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:05 PM ET
Phanuef for ROR
- Shenanigans20




corrected
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:08 PM ET
corrected
- zazzle


not a chance in hell col would move RoR straight up for phaneuf.

the biggest issue is not wanting to pay him the high salary he'll want (6 - 6.5), so why move him for a less valuable asset, who's making more already.

they could get way more than phaneuf for him..............and i say that as someone who, admiddetly doesn't like phaneuf, but thinks he's a good player.
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
subban gets 8 years 68 mil in 5,4,3,2...........
- sensarmy_11


Ya he will did not think that was up for debate.
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:13 PM ET
not a chance in hell col would move RoR straight up for phaneuf.

the biggest issue is not wanting to pay him the high salary he'll want (6 - 6.5), so why move him for a less valuable asset, who's making more already.

they could get way more than phaneuf for him..............and i say that as someone who, admiddetly doesn't like phaneuf, but thinks he's a good player.

- sensarmy_11


Ok who would be better then Dion(non Bias) that you could get for a RFA.
Doumdom
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Blainville, QC
Joined: 09.04.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
won't argue with that.
not sure he's the best UFA D available though. i'd say niskanen is better, and boyle is about the same.

i think 5.75 is the max he would have gotten in the open market, would have thought the habs would have been able to lock him up for 5.

i guess it's not much at the end of the day though, but given some of the players the habs have to re-sign, i think every penny is gonna be needed.

- sensarmy_11


Markov is by far a better Offensive-D than Niskanen and as good as boyle in his own zone. How many good season Niskanen had...2, maybe 3....Markov had plenty of those....
Shenanigans20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:14 PM ET
corrected
- zazzle

You know I did have that at first. I do think that's the more likely scenario but I can see AVS wanting slightly more so I just added the pick (not any particular round)
But I can see the swap for sure.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
Phanuef+Pick for ROR
- Shenanigans20


never
Shenanigans20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:16 PM ET
subban gets 8 years 68 mil in 5,4,3,2...........
- sensarmy_11

If MTL pays more for Subban than LA is for Doughty, that's a bad deal
Shenanigans20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:18 PM ET
never
- DDM-Coga

Would you rather have nick leddy? Lol
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
Ok who would be better then Dion(non Bias) that you could get for a RFA.
- jake24242


when you take his contract into consideration (just talking d-men)..........which is important in the cap world..........shattenkirk out of st louis jumps to mind, yandle.

i think there are a few guys, who might be slightly different types of players than dion, but who are no less valuable and who come with better contracts.

the Avs already have their minute eating all-around guy on the top pair (johnson) and they need a good PMD to compliment him...........or atleast that's what i keep hearing from Avs fans.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
Would you rather have nick leddy? Lol
- Shenanigans20


ROR to the leafs is a pipe dream, never going to happen. Especially for a Dman who would eat up too much of the avs cap space long term.

If you start moving JVR, you might get a deal going there
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:21 PM ET
when you take his contract into consideration (just talking d-men)..........which is important in the cap world..........shattenkirk out of st louis jumps to mind, yandle.

i think there are a few guys, who might be slightly different types of players than dion, but who are no less valuable and who come with better contracts.

the Avs already have their minute eating all-around guy on the top pair (johnson) and they need a good PMD to compliment him...........or atleast that's what i keep hearing from Avs fans.

- sensarmy_11


Yes, a good LHD to pair with EJ. Hejda got too beat up and worn down from the season grind to handle those minutes...better sutied for the 2nd pairing with Barrie.

Ive read Niskanen likes to play his offhand, so if they want a guy to pair with EJ and to make the first pass. Nisk is the guy to grab if not wait for Bigras or Seimens to pan out
Popofjc
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Quebec City, QC
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
If MTL pays more for Subban than LA is for Doughty, that's a bad deal
- Shenanigans20


Actually, it should be more : If Habs pay a bigger ratio of "player salary / salary cap at the time", then it's a bad deal.

If Doughty would be a RFA this year with the salary cap increasing, he would be paid a lot more than what he is paid right now.
Shenanigans20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
ROR to the leafs is a pipe dream, never going to happen. Especially for a Dman who would eat up too much of the avs cap space long term.

If you start moving JVR, you might get a deal going there

- DDM-Coga

Yeah I would want JVR too. Is he on the block.
Yes I do know players can always become available at any point especially for a player like ROR who is having contract issues
Shenanigans20
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.28.2013

Jun 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
Actually, it should be more : If Habs pay a bigger ratio of "player salary / salary cap at the time", then it's a bad deal.

If Doughty would be a RFA this year with the salary cap increasing, he would be paid a lot more than what he is paid right now.

- Popofjc

I guess so
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
Yeah I would want JVR too. Is he on the block.
Yes I do know players can always become available at any point especially for a player like ROR who is having contract issues

- Shenanigans20


He wasnt on the list of toronto untouchables, so who knows.
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
when you take his contract into consideration (just talking d-men)..........which is important in the cap world..........shattenkirk out of st louis jumps to mind, yandle.

i think there are a few guys, who might be slightly different types of players than dion, but who are no less valuable and who come with better contracts.

the Avs already have their minute eating all-around guy on the top pair (johnson) and they need a good PMD to compliment him...........or atleast that's what i keep hearing from Avs fans.

- sensarmy_11


Yandle is more all offense by all means if you feel like he is better. But shattenkirk isnt better nore do i think he is available but maybe STL would do it since its an overpayement.
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
Gotta love Philly, they don't mess around.
jake24242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.25.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:29 PM ET
not a chance in hell col would move RoR straight up for phaneuf.

the biggest issue is not wanting to pay him the high salary he'll want (6 - 6.5), so why move him for a less valuable asset, who's making more already.

they could get way more than phaneuf for him..............and i say that as someone who, admiddetly doesn't like phaneuf, but thinks he's a good player.

- sensarmy_11


When is the last time a player like ROR that is a RFA has been traded for more then a pick? Let alone players coming back.
I cant think of any in recent years.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
When is the last time a player like ROR that is a RFA has been traded for more then a pick? Let alone players coming back.
I cant think of any in recent years.

- jake24242


RFA Turris for Runblad and a 2nd was the last time I think.
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