IMO Buff and FLA will be perennial contenders if they don't do anything stupid.

Bjugstad
Huberdeau
Barkov
Ekblad
Gudbranson


Incredibly solid young core

Reinhart
Armia
Ristolainen
Myers
Girgensons
3 2015 1sts

Incredibly solid future
- sbroads24

Zadorov
Lemieux

They lost a significant piece when they bought out Ehrhoff. We had Moulson for a long period of time, didn't change much.

The team had 21 wins. Even if they were that much better, that would equate to what 10-15 more wins? Would still make for a bottom 5 team. Can't understand why he would want this team to be gunning for 9th this early. He's got 3 1sts in a great draft. If he can get at least 1 pick in the top 7 he's getting a pretty special player.
- Sabresfan-365

Like Dipietro Special or like Vanek Special?

hiller stats 162 wins 110 losses .916 save 2.51 gaa
miller stats 294 wins 194 losses .915 gaa 2.55 gaa
- homiedclown

not a fan of Miller either

No i meant I wouldn't consider his talent level to be on an elite level like a Tavares or Mackinnon or Stamkos.
- Sabresfan-365

just busting balls, but I think its a little early to mail that vote in.

So with the player we have right now.

What should the lines look like next year.
- evatnorth

Moulson-Ennis-Stafford
Stewart-Girgensons/Reinhart-Hodgson
Foligno-Reinhart/Larsson-Gionta
Mitchell-McCormick-Kaleta

Myers-Gorges
Pysyk-Meszaros
Weber-Ruhwedel
cheap vet

Well, to be fair, he hasn't done anything to warrant confidence in him. Yes, Sabres Mgmt screwed him early on...but he was expected to be a top 5 pick his draft year so one would expect more. His skating is sub-par, his compete seems to be sub-par and the rumors are he expects things to be handed to him. So, those are pretty significant hurdles HE has to overcome. Outside of Juniors, what have you seen that would instill confidence in his success?
- IonSabres

He had a decent WJC this past year.

They lost a significant piece when they bought out Ehrhoff. We had Moulson for a long period of time, didn't change much.

The team had 21 wins. Even if they were that much better, that would equate to what 10-15 more wins? Would still make for a bottom 5 team. Can't understand why he would want this team to be gunning for 9th this early. He's got 3 1sts in a great draft. If he can get at least 1 pick in the top 7 he's getting a pretty special player.
- Sabresfan-365

a competent coach to start training camp helps

hoff mailed it in, jorges is an upgrade
meszaros is an upgrade over hank

gionta will be a great mentor
I'll take moulson for 82 games over vanek, any day of the week

girgens gets a bit more mature
stewart and staff in a contract year

a goalie competition instead of 1 goalie playing 8 games out of ten and pouting when the other goalie gets back to back starts


no john scott


a better 4th line

and did I mention a full training camp with a competent coach

They will score 200+ goals. IMO it's not that tough to see it. They brought in players with an attitude that has been lacking since 2007. This team will surprise people, I'm not saying making the playoffs surprise but they will be much better that what people(fans and media) give them. Again IMO fans are McEichel struck and can't see past it.
- dadeadhead

Should I expect to see you this weekend?

They'll be fine. They only loss Cammy.
- dadeadhead

and Stempniak.

LOL, Petey just announced my tweet.

HE AGREED
- TheSabresTaco

So you and Andrew peters think a like.......congrats?

That guy used to hang out with Nickelback......

2x's better? I like the moves TM made, but to say the roster is that much better? I guess I choose to see this team with my eyes and not my heart.
- jzabawaj

Maybe go to the Dr's and get them checked?

Again fans(maybe not you) have a McEichel hard on and are setting themselves up for disappointment. People are going to lose their minds if they don't land one of them. Me if we do awesome, if not I trust TM. In the end I'll still get up and go about my day.

not a fan of Miller either
- jzabawaj

Zadorov
Lemieux
- PassionBucket16

HOLY poop...

a Passion Bucket sighting!!

and Stempniak.
- JVince11

Yeah his 8 goals in 52 games are a huge loss.

Zadorov
Lemieux
- PassionBucket16

Don't sleep on Grigorenko yet.

Moulson-Ennis-Stafford
Stewart-Girgensons/Reinhart-Hodgson
Foligno-Reinhart/Larsson-Gionta
Mitchell-McCormick-Kaleta

Myers-Gorges
Pysyk-Meszaros
Weber-Ruhwedel
cheap vet
- TheSabresTaco

flynn???



don't be shocked if kaleta does not make the team and if lemieux does

hiller stats 162 wins 110 losses .916 save 2.51 gaa
miller stats 294 wins 194 losses .915 gaa 2.55 gaa
- homiedclown

We are still doing this??????????

The guy isn't even on our team any more and you still try to throw him in the mud.

Moulson-Ennis-Stafford
Stewart-Girgensons/Reinhart-Hodgson
Foligno-Reinhart/Larsson-Gionta
Mitchell-McCormick-Kaleta

Myers-Gorges
Pysyk-Meszaros
Weber-Ruhwedel
cheap vet
- TheSabresTaco

I see us putting Ruhwedel back in the A, just for one more year. Then I can see them bringing in Del Zotto just for a year or 2 to play with weber. Then signing a cheap vet.

Maybe go to the Dr's and get them checked?

Again fans(maybe not you) have a McEichel hard on and are setting themselves up for disappointment. People are going to lose their minds if they don't land one of them. Me if we do awesome, if not I trust TM. In the end I'll still get up and go about my day.
- dadeadhead

I'll be pretty butthurt.

Should I expect to see you this weekend?
- HonkFortheGoose

Unsure, boss has been out of town and comes back sometime on Saturday. I've been in charge for the week and will need to sit down with him and hand over the paperwork for the week plus go over everything from the week.

I see us putting Ruhwedel back in the A, just for one more year. Then I can see them bringing in Del Zotto just for a year or 2 to play with weber. Then signing a cheap vet.
- evatnorth

Wow. Those 2 will have the worst plus minus in history.

a competent coach to start training camp helps

hoff mailed it in, jorges is an upgrade
meszaros is an upgrade over hank

gionta will be a great mentor
I'll take moulson for 82 games over vanek, any day of the week

girgens gets a bit more mature
stewart and staff in a contract year

a goalie competition instead of 1 goalie playing 8 games out of ten and pouting when the other goalie gets back to back starts


no john scott


a better 4th line

and did I mention a full training camp with a competent coach
- homiedclown

First and last sentences are the only things I disagree with, Homie. Nolan isn't Rolston, but he's not competent, either.

They will score 200+ goals. IMO it's not that tough to see it. They brought in players with an attitude that has been lacking since 2007. This team will surprise people, I'm not saying making the playoffs surprise but they will be much better that what people(fans and media) give them. Again IMO fans are McEichel struck and can't see past it.
- dadeadhead

Ok so they score 200 goals, still don't see that making that much of a difference in the W column. LA only scored ~200 last year

Maybe go to the Dr's and get them checked?

Again fans(maybe not you) have a McEichel hard on and are setting themselves up for disappointment. People are going to lose their minds if they don't land one of them. Me if we do awesome, if not I trust TM. In the end I'll still get up and go about my day.
- dadeadhead

I needed a new location

thanks

We are still doing this??????????

The guy isn't even on our team any more and you still try to throw him in the mud.
- JVince11

That's not throwing him in the mud.

It's showing you Hiller is just as good as Miller.