Letang for Pacioretty and Gallagher.
- Ben37

Wow, that's a TERRIBLE deal for MTL

Like I said earlier...this would have to include another team at some point.

Let's try and be objective for a second...let's assume Subban and Letang (healthy) are just about equal.

Subban probably wants more than what Letang is being paid...right?

The Penguins...probably wish Letang was being paid less.

Swapping them really doesn't make sense for Pitt...but Letang could make sense in Montreal if the Canadiens view him as stated above (equal to Subban).

Pitt could move Letang...for lesser D? and a lesser forward? But looking at Mtl....I see only Bourque and Emelin fitting that situation.

Mtl would then have to trade Subban's rights for forward help...right? With who?
- icedog97

I agree there's a third team involved, and I know which one it is. The only way this trade rumor has legs is if Mtl and Peg have something serious going on involving Subban and Kane.

I only want Pacioretty, and I think the Pens FO would only want Pacioretty. Think about it. We have a problem with the top 6 right now and we're close to the cap. Paches has one of the best contracts in hockey right now and would be killer on Crosby's wing.

Trading for Tanger would help Montreal too because they can then trade Subban for a kings' ransom while having one of the best offensive defensemen in the league locked up long term for an ok contract.

What could be the other options? Subban? Too expensive for the Pens and I just don't see why the Pens would look to improve a position of strength when we have other glaring problems and our pipeline is so strong and cheap. Price? The idea that Montreal would trade a top 3 goalie for Letang and MAF is laughable.

The question then becomes, do the Habs have the forward strength to make Pacioretty expendable? That I don't think so.
- Victoro311

This sounds like a stroke of genius, except there's something you're missing that would make the Habs worry about letang. I just can think of what it is.. I'll ponder that while I stroke my beard.. Hmm.

Letang's trade value last year is the same as Subbans. There is no reason to think his health is any cause for concern at this point. It's not some un-cureable disease, its a stroke. While that is severe, the chances of it happening again are about as good as you and I both being struck by the same bolt of lightning (according to the doctors, that is).

Point is - Letang still has more value than Pacioretty. I just don't think it makes sense for MTL from an on-ice perspective. But I'm happy with Pacioretty and Beaulieu for Letang and a 3rd.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

There are so many things to discuss in this post, I can't even start.

Letang's trade value last year is the same as Subbans. There is no reason to think his health is any cause for concern at this point. It's not some un-cureable disease, its a stroke. While that is severe, the chances of it happening again are about as good as you and I both being struck by the same bolt of lightning (according to the doctors, that is).

Point is - Letang still has more value than Pacioretty. I just don't think it makes sense for MTL from an on-ice perspective. But I'm happy with Pacioretty and Beaulieu for Letang and a 3rd.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

How about no?

There are so many things to discuss in this post, I can't even start.
- ehabs9

Sounds like a wonderful compliment, thank you. I'm being dramatic but this particular health concern is in the past. Prior concussions, knee, elbow injuries, etc would be the real health concern with Letang, IMO.

This sounds like a stroke of genius, except there's something you're missing that would make the Habs worry about letang. I just can think of what it is.. I'll ponder that while I stroke my beard.. Hmm.
- Isles_since_6

we see what you did there..

How about no?
- Kaden

Letang's trade value last year is the same as Subbans. There is no reason to think his health is any cause for concern at this point. It's not some un-cureable disease, its a stroke. While that is severe, the chances of it happening again are about as good as you and I both being struck by the same bolt of lightning (according to the doctors, that is).

Point is - Letang still has more value than Pacioretty. I just don't think it makes sense for MTL from an on-ice perspective. But I'm happy with Pacioretty and Beaulieu for Letang and a 3rd.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

In that case Rutherford's phone should be ringing off the hook.

I think Ek could have wrote "Canadiens and Pens in talks regarding trafficking midgets for sex" and that would have been more believable than this noise he is spitting.

Sounds like a wonderful compliment, thank you. I'm being dramatic but this particular health concern is in the past. Prior concussions, knee, elbow injuries, etc would be the real health concern with Letang, IMO.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

A stroke and being hit by lightning are not comparable at all. Strokes are in most cases, related to pre-existing conditions that make an individual more at risk of suffering from one. That said those who have suffered a stroke are more at risk to suffer another.


If you want to add on all the other injuries then ya, health is a relatively serious concern for Letang

A stroke and being hit by lightning are not comparable at all. Strokes are almost always related to pre-existing conditions that make an individual susceptible to suffering from one. That said those who have suffered a stroke are more at risk to suffer another.


If you want to add on all the other injuries then ya, health is a relatively serious concern for Letang
- ehabs9

I wasn't trying to be a Richard. Just the way most people discuss Letang is unfair. Just want to make sure that the bashing has some validity to it. Health is a legitimate concern...but he's a really, really talented hockey player.

And over the next 8 years, he will be better value than Subban once Subban wants $10M

A stroke and being hit by lightning are not comparable at all. Strokes are in most cases, related to pre-existing conditions that make an individual more at risk of suffering from one. That said those who have suffered a stroke are more at risk to suffer another.


If you want to add on all the other injuries then ya, health is a relatively serious concern for Letang
- ehabs9

exactly what you said is completely wrong.

letang's doctors have said that letang suffering another stroke due to his preexisting condition is less than 1% likely to happen.

i would be more worried about patch's injuries than letangs... i know all montreal players are gods but that is just my opinion.

I wasn't trying to be a Richard. Just the way most people discuss Letang is unfair. Just want to make sure that the bashing has some validity to it. Health is a legitimate concern...but he's a really, really talented hockey player.

And over the next 8 years, he will be better value than Subban once Subban wants $10M
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Fair enough.

I like Letang a lot, and its of no fault of his own that he has some detractors to his value. It's poopty, but it's there. Personally I think Subban is a better player than Letang, but that's just because I value his particular game more. They're comparable that is for sure. But, both those things taken into consideration I would always take Subban over Letang.

Like you said, we'll have to see what Subban's next contract is to be able to weigh cap hit into the discussion as well.

Letang's trade value last year is the same as Subbans. There is no reason to think his health is any cause for concern at this point. It's not some un-cureable disease, its a stroke. While that is severe, the chances of it happening again are about as good as you and I both being struck by the same bolt of lightning (according to the doctors, that is).

Point is - Letang still has more value than Pacioretty. I just don't think it makes sense for MTL from an on-ice perspective. But I'm happy with Pacioretty and Beaulieu for Letang and a 3rd.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I disagree with alot in here... Strokes are very serious and having a stroke GREATLY increases your chances for a recurrent stroke, he's definitely going to be monitored very closely this year. This was a little insensitive IMO

I don't think Letang and Subban are equals even with the health issues aside. Montreal WILL NOT trade Subban and money won't be an issue.

Pacioretty + Beaulieu would be a massive overpayment... A Norris caliber defensemen (he has been due to his offense numbers) for a 40 goal scorer (granted only once and its 39) does not need a premium prospect included. Besides, the penguins would save, what, 3+million in cap space? Considering that's what they need, I would say they'd be equal. Mtl would be brain dead to trade Pacioretty tho, that contract is a gift

Anyways none of that matters cause this rumour is to get some hits on the blog... I mainly had to reply to that stroke comment... Woah, hit by lightning??
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Letang's trade value last year is the same as Subbans. There is no reason to think his health is any cause for concern at this point. It's not some un-cureable disease, its a stroke. While that is severe, the chances of it happening again are about as good as you and I both being struck by the same bolt of lightning (according to the doctors, that is).

Point is - Letang still has more value than Pacioretty. I just don't think it makes sense for MTL from an on-ice perspective. But I'm happy with Pacioretty and Beaulieu for Letang and a 3rd.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I think Pacioretty has more value than Letang. A (pretty much) 40 goal scorer making $4.5 mil versus a talented D with an injury history making over $7 mil. I wouldn't swap the two if I'm Montreal, let alone throw in a good young D like Beaulieu for a 3rd.

This trade must be involving subban, he wants to much money that isn't going his way in negotiations right now. Unless Montreal gets a guy like Malkin or Kunitz in a trade for pk, we'll be set back another 2 decades from even being close to getting a cup, It'll be a Roy fiasco all over again, that will set us back another 20 years.

Letang + Malkin + Bennett for Subban + Pacioretty + Galchenyuk

Ridiculous trade offers are fun

I would love letang being moved, he's overpaid, he's a decent rw but a bad dman always put of position. The ladies of pittsburgh will cry foul if he's dealt!

From Meesh:
"If you believe nameless accounts and/or Eklund, you deserve the insanity you put yourself through."

I would love letang being moved, he's overpaid, he's a decent rw but a bad dman always put of position. The ladies of pittsburgh will cry foul if he's dealt!
- Micmaz34

Is this English?

Letang + Malkin + Bennett for Subban + Pacioretty + Galchenyuk

Ridiculous trade offers are fun
- Feds91Stammer

[sarcasm] Pit takes that trade seven days out of the week and twice on Sundays [/sarcasm]

No way as a Pens fan do I want to see Letang traded. When healthy he's a top 10 defenseman in the league. Also, the 7.25 cap hit is not bad for that type of talent. Especially when looking at what others have gotten recently.

I think Pacioretty has more value than Letang. A (pretty much) 40 goal scorer making $4.5 mil versus a talented D with an injury history making over $7 mil. I wouldn't swap the two if I'm Montreal, let alone throw in a good young D like Beaulieu for a 3rd.
- MontrealTheTime

No problems there. From the PIT perspective, I think Letang holds more value than Patches straight up. We have to deal Letang as the Norris caliber defenseman he can be. We can't sell him short of that or it doesn't make sense. He's a game-changer.. just like a slightly lesser Subban. Patches is a great sniper on a good contract...but not as much of a game-changer, IMO. Agree to disagree, my friend.

Edit - plus, look at my avatar. that is Letang's wife. You get the added bonus of that walking the streets of MTL.

No problems there. From the PIT perspective, I think Letang holds more value than Patches straight up. We have to deal Letang as the Norris caliber defenseman he can be. We can't sell him short of that or it doesn't make sense. He's a game-changer.. just like a slightly lesser Subban. Patches is a great sniper on a good contract...but not as much of a game-changer, IMO. Agree to disagree, my friend.

Edit - plus, look at my avatar. that is Letang's wife. You get the added bonus of that walking the streets of MTL.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

He likes them young...