I'm not in the Berube fan club. I don't know if he can be the kind of coach that gets the team deep in the playoffs or even utilize a roster to it's top capacity. I like where the team is headed though, more or less. The foundation is there at least up front and if one (or two. Hopefully four) of Gostisbehere, Morin, Sanheim and Hagg can develop into a top 4 defender or better, with trades and signings, the team can be a legit contender within the next 2-5 years.
- NickTheKid87

I like berubes approach to the game and how he holds players accountable but I agree with you. We can all hope that Babcock becomes available and Philly can wow the crap out of him if that does happen. Wishful thinking but he is my favorite coach by a large margin followed by quinville

I like berubes approach to the game and how he holds players accountable but I agree with you. We can all hope that Babcock becomes available and Philly can wow the crap out of him if that does happen. Wishful thinking but he is my favorite coach by a large margin followed by quinville
- 28Girouxsalem28

I like the accountability thing although he didn't seem to practice that equally. Hartnell and Grossmann saw the ice a lot more than they should have at times. Other players as well. Seems like he only held some players accountable or at least held the players to different standards.

I like berubes approach to the game and how he holds players accountable but I agree with you. We can all hope that Babcock becomes available and Philly can wow the crap out of him if that does happen. Wishful thinking but he is my favorite coach by a large margin followed by quinville
- 28Girouxsalem28

I don't know how anyone can say Berube is good or not yet. What tells you he can't coach? A guy hasn't been kept around as long as he has because he is stupid. He needs some time to use his system and also get the guys to play it. We talk about being patient with our young players but that has to go to Berube as well. Let him have a full camp, implement his system right and then make a determination.


Also it is easy to coach the Redwings when you have guys like Datsyuk, Zetterburg, Lindstrom. I am sure Berube would love to be able to have Pronger out there t help.

Like Bill has said before, a team is never as good as their best and never as bad as their worst. The team was capable of being good but not being consistently good. They're destined for more of the same.
- NickTheKid87

I'm not quite sure of that, especially if their young players continue to grow.

I like the accountability thing although he didn't seem to practice that equally. Hartnell and Grossmann saw the ice a lot more than they should have at times. Other players as well. Seems like he only held some players accountable or at least held the players to different standards.
- NickTheKid87

What happened to you man.... lol

I'm not quite sure of that, especially if their young players continue to grow.
- MBFlyerfan

The defense is a year older too. Timonen will be out all or most of the season, Streit is 36 now. Schenn is volatile, Grossmann is over- and misused, Del Zotto has been awful the last two years. They also lack some punch up front and their fourth line looks like it could be less than mediocre. I just think a lot needs to happen for them to be above average.

What happened to you man.... lol
- PhillaBully

I had to finish college

Uh oh, then someone else may get offended. When did we become this?

- MBFlyerfan

It's not about being offended. It's simply about thinking it's an annoying phrase

I'm not in the Berube fan club. I don't know if he can be the kind of coach that gets the team deep in the playoffs or even utilize a roster to it's top capacity. I like where the team is headed though, more or less. The foundation is there at least up front and if one (or two. Hopefully four) of Gostisbehere, Morin, Sanheim and Hagg can develop into a top 4 defender or better, with trades and signings, the team can be a legit contender within the next 2-5 years.
- NickTheKid87

My concern w/ Chief is that I'm not sure what makes his style/philosophy any different than what 20 other coaches are trying to do right now (namely copying tactics from the Wings, Kings and/or Bruins).

Unless he actually has something that sets him apart, like Babcock's Machiavellian streak, Tippett's whimsical approach to micromanagement, or Hitch's gift for adaptive XO's... the Flyers will probably still find themselves behind the curve, trying to play copy-the-last-champ.

Homer said he had a great hockey mind... I'm still waiting to see some inkling of that.

My concern w/ Chief is that I'm not sure what makes his style/philosophy any different than what 20 other coaches are trying to do right now (namely copying tactics from the Wings, Kings and/or Bruins).

Unless he actually has something that sets him apart, like Babcock's Machiavellian streak, Tippett's whimsical approach to micromanagement, or Hitch's gift for adaptive XO's... the Flyers will probably still find themselves behind the curve, trying to play copy-the-last-champ.

Homer said he had a great hockey mind... I'm still waiting to see some inkling of that.
- Tomahawk

Good point. Berube does seem very run-of-the-mill. From the start I would have liked a newbie with some sort of "vision" for the game. Sort of like a Chip Kelly of hockey. Snider's Boys Club will reign supreme in these instances though.

It's not about being offended. It's simply about thinking it's an annoying phrase
- Giroux_Is_God

Well, that is ok. I always found the term to be kind of funny. It reminds me of something Eric Cartman would say.


But the idea that someone said it is a bannable term is frankly laughable.

Off topic, but how the hell did the Rangers get John Moore to accept his QO?
- Tomahawk

Because he's John Moore.

My concern w/ Chief is that I'm not sure what makes his style/philosophy any different than what 20 other coaches are trying to do right now (namely copying tactics from the Wings, Kings and/or Bruins).

Unless he actually has something that sets him apart, like Babcock's Machiavellian streak, Tippett's whimsical approach to micromanagement, or Hitch's gift for adaptive XO's... the Flyers will probably still find themselves behind the curve, trying to play copy-the-last-champ.

Homer said he had a great hockey mind... I'm still waiting to see some inkling of that.
- Tomahawk

In and of itself I always thought (and still do) that hockey's a pretty basic game. It's why I love it. It's about the talent on the ice. You either have it or you don't. A coach can make a bad team serviceable, a mediocre team good and a good team great and vice versa. You have to judge the talent level before you can judge the coach.

In my opinion, the talent level on this team is a little better than mediocre. They're a 4-8 seed. You look around the league and there are a lot of teams with similar talent level. The metro division is loaded with them. Let's see what direction the coach takes them.

Let's face it, Orr's career was a result of rapid expansion and a diluted talent pool at the NHL level.
- mayorofangrytown

same with gretzky...

Well, that is ok. I always found the term to be kind of funny. It reminds me of something Eric Cartman would say.


But the idea that someone said it is a bannable term is frankly laughable.
- MBFlyerfan

Really? WTF?

same with gretzky...
- twotoekenn

No... he was awesome.

as some of you may know, i design InGoal Magazine, which is distributed online only. Unfortunately, it's been awhile since we've been able to produce a full-size, regular issue, but the good news is the brand new September 2014 issue was posted this morning. Most of it will not interest any of you, as it's loaded with gear reviews and training information, but i'd love for you all take a gander when you have a moment. thanks!

http://magazine.ingoalmag.../publication/?m=18095&l=1
- hammarby31

as some of you may know, i design InGoal Magazine, which is distributed online only. Unfortunately, it's been awhile since we've been able to produce a full-size, regular issue, but the good news is the brand new September 2014 issue was posted this morning. Most of it will not interest any of you, as it's loaded with gear reviews and training information, but i'd love for you all take a gander when you have a moment. thanks!

http://magazine.ingoalmag.../publication/?m=18095&l=1
- hammarby31

Well, I gotta say that is pretty impressive.

Well, I gotta say that is pretty impressive.

- MBFlyerfan

thank you, sir!

i also designed the vaughn ad without a spec of imagery or direction provided by them. hoping this will spark them to give us more of their marketing budget.

Well, that is ok. I always found the term to be kind of funny. It reminds me of something Eric Cartman would say.


But the idea that someone said it is a bannable term is frankly laughable.
- MBFlyerfan

Also joking. Bannable because he's in my boat...me Bullies, and a few others were joking around, comparing it to the 7 words you shouldn't ever say skit. You must have missed that discussion. It was like a month ago....nobody is actually offended!

Also, I hate South Park

I'm not in the Berube fan club. I don't know if he can be the kind of coach that gets the team deep in the playoffs or even utilize a roster to it's top capacity. I like where the team is headed though, more or less. The foundation is there at least up front and if one (or two. Hopefully four) of Gostisbehere, Morin, Sanheim and Hagg can develop into a top 4 defender or better, with trades and signings, the team can be a legit contender within the next 2-5 years.
- NickTheKid87

I think Berube will wring everything he can out of this particular roster.

I just don't think this roster is particularly talented on the blue line and that's not really Berube's fault.

Just because Berube is here today doesn't mean he'll be here 2 years from now. The make up of the team will be a bit different and a different voice will probably be required.

But for right now? Berube is fine.

First post in god knows when. Happy birthday Bill!

I think it's pretty evident that Hextall does not utilize analytics to make roster moves (see: Ryan White, Rinaldo extension). I think his thinking is flawed though. If you're going to use them to analyze players and the team within a game, then it would be reasonable to assume that, over the course of the season, you'll see certain players are hurting the team and others who are helping. If you used the same analysis on other teams, you'd see the same trend for their players. After all this, why would you not want to create a roster with the most valuable guys found from doing in-game statistical analysis?

Basically what I'm saying is that 1) his use of analytics will become a major factor in personnel decisions or 2) if it doesn't, he's missing using the tool.

Just my 2 cents.
- NickTheKid87

My 2 cents is if Hextall uses analytics as a major factor, he won't be a very good GM. If he incorporates them as a tool, and a small part involved in personnel decisions, then that will help him as a GM.

My 2 cents is if Hextall uses analytics as a major factor, he won't be a very good GM. If he incorporates them as a tool, and a small part involved in personnel decisions, then that will help him as a GM.
- MJL

That's what I mean as "major factor". I guess i should have said relative to what they did before.

Also joking. Bannable because he's in my boat...me Bullies, and a few others were joking around, comparing it to the 7 words you shouldn't ever say skit. You must have missed that discussion. It was like a month ago....nobody is actually offended!

Also, I hate South Park
- Giroux_Is_God

some people are awfully thin skinned about what offends people #irony

I think Berube will wring everything he can out of this particular roster.

I just don't think this roster is particularly talented on the blue line and that's not really Berube's fault.

Just because Berube is here today doesn't mean he'll be here 2 years from now. The make up of the team will be a bit different and a different voice will probably be required.

But for right now? Berube is fine.
- johndewar

I think he'll demand the most out of this so-so roster but I don't see him as a coach that can elevate the play by his hockey smarts. I'm not sure he knows how to use the roster to its fullest extent regardless of how talented the roster is.