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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:21 AM ET
The Eakins system ALL Follow the Puck
- AlEx_OiL

While I'm sure u were watching the right game. Just horribly confused the whole time
spawnofbettman
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 02.04.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:21 AM ET
I had a pretty stark realization watching the third period tonight. This team isn't going to get any better, plain and simple. Same problems, different year.

Go Panthers, or Blue Jackets

Who gives a poop
TheBold
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.22.2013

Oct 10 @ 2:22 AM ET
On the 5th goal??


Wtf?

I think u were watching a different game

- hugefemale dog77

AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:23 AM ET
While I'm sure u were watching the right game. Just horribly confused the whole time
- hugefemale dog77

Nah just having some fun,like I say earlier is better to have fun even went things are not going well.....
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:25 AM ET

- TheBold

That was after the 4 on 1. Which was the point of the post I retorted to.

And 2 players were on their man in that picture. We're not playing zone down 4-2 late if we're getting technical. We're playing chase and get possession of the puck.

Anyways....
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:32 AM ET
I had a pretty stark realization watching the third period tonight. This team isn't going to get any better, plain and simple. Same problems, different year.

Go Panthers, or Blue Jackets

Who gives a poop

- spawnofbettman


Is only Game 1,there's hope
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 10 @ 2:33 AM ET
Well that was a rather disappointing start to the season, but calgary seems to have the oilers number last couple years.
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:35 AM ET
Well that was a rather disappointing start to the season, but calgary seems to have the oilers number last couple years.
- Yeti1181

What you doing awake this late?
I wonder why hmmm
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:35 AM ET
Well that was a rather disappointing start to the season, but calgary seems to have the oilers number last couple years.
- Yeti1181

Who doesn't?

Curious to know which western teams, if any, we've got a winning record or close to against the last couple years?

Colorado pops to mind for some reason.
Cbj before they moved east?
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 10 @ 2:42 AM ET
I really would like to see the Oilers do well but honestly as long as Eakins is coaching this team I do not have much hope for them. Scrivens was awful tonight and was unable to control rebounds and looked shaky most the game. After being badly outplayed by Fasth in exhibition I was surprised to see Ben in net. Fasth is a much better goalie as long as he stays healthy, just watch his rebound control. He smothers that puck and rarely returns the puck into the slot like Scrivens does. Several of my buddies are huge Oiler fans and they despise Eakins and they see him as the main problem, followed closely by MacT. Good luck Victor Saturday night! And Ryan I support your blog, you nailed it.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 10 @ 2:42 AM ET
What you doing awake this late?
I wonder why hmmm

- AlEx_OiL

I bartend for a living
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Oct 10 @ 2:44 AM ET
Who doesn't?

Curious to know which western teams, if any, we've got a winning record or close to against the last couple years?

Colorado pops to mind for some reason.
Cbj before they moved east?

- hugefemale dog77

Yeah good point
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:44 AM ET
I bartend for a living
- Yeti1181

Okay then can i get 4 tequila shots please and make it gold tequila
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:44 AM ET
I really would like to see the Oilers do well but honestly as long as Eakins is coaching this team I do not have much hope for them. Scrivens was awful tonight and was unable to control rebounds and looked shaky most the game. After being badly outplayed by Fasth in exhibition I was surprised to see Ben in net. Fasth is a much better goalie as long as he stays healthy, just watch his rebound control. He smothers that puck and rarely returns the puck into the slot like Scrivens does. Several of my buddies are huge Oiler fans and they despise Eakins and they see him as the main problem, followed closely by MacT. Good luck Victor Saturday night! And Ryan I support your blog, you nailed it.
- flyerdude17

AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:45 AM ET
Yeah good point
- Yeti1181

Can i predict next game score?
NewfieStud
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Oct 10 @ 2:50 AM ET
Oilers should drop the hammer immediatley and go after Dan Bylsma because he's still unemployed! I'm sure coaching isn't the only problem but I never got a good vibe from Eakins right from the day he was hired. It's only one game but it's time to go after a legit NHL coach before the season goes down the toilet!
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 2:52 AM ET
Oilers should drop the hammer immediatley and go after Dan Bylsma because he's still unemployed! I'm sure coaching isn't the only problem but I never got a good vibe from Eakins right from the day he was hired. It's only one game but it's time to go after a legit NHL coach before the season goes down the toilet!
- NewfieStud


Hey your not MacT to make a call like that.....
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:56 AM ET
I really would like to see the Oilers do well but honestly as long as Eakins is coaching this team I do not have much hope for them. Scrivens was awful tonight and was unable to control rebounds and looked shaky most the game. After being badly outplayed by Fasth in exhibition I was surprised to see Ben in net. Fasth is a much better goalie as long as he stays healthy, just watch his rebound control. He smothers that puck and rarely returns the puck into the slot like Scrivens does. Several of my buddies are huge Oiler fans and they despise Eakins and they see him as the main problem, followed closely by MacT. Good luck Victor Saturday night! And Ryan I support your blog, you nailed it.
- flyerdude17

Several of your buds don't know what they're talking about.

In the last 8 years, neither mactavish nor Eakins have been the constant.
What has is the oilers losing regardless of who's in the front office or behind the bench.

Now if you like, we can get into management not putting the roster out there that's able to win. And that would be fair. But again, Mact hasn't had that job the entire time. In fact he's only had it for a year and abit. Or a full season and the end of another. But in that time He's overturned this roster wholesale and added depth and size.

Until we get results it's all moot, but considering the daunting task Mact had in front of him when he took the job, as well as on a daily basis attracting talent, he's NOT part of the problem one bit.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 2:59 AM ET
The oiler fans screaming for more changes to the suits, aren't willing to admit (or can't grasp)how bad this team has been and think it's an easy solution.

The opposition fans who do the same are misinformed and get their opinions online from other misinformed peeps.

Seriously, there's almost no other explanation to the lunacy
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 3:09 AM ET
The Fan's that saw improvement while Krueger as a coach(without training camp) were looking to a continue improvement,but MacT made a coaching change the following season with the expectation of a improvement with the new players He brough in,What happen?well it was a huge step back,now a new season same Coach more new players to improve the team,well Game 1 the Oil Dominate a weaker team that played the night before and gets beat 5-2 but dominated that weaker team,so can we really say there was a improvement againts a weaker team?next game the better Goalie will play for the Oil but if the Oil gets beat dominating Vancouver is that still a improvement?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 3:17 AM ET
The Fan's that saw improvement while Krueger as a coach(without training camp) were looking to a continue improvement,but MacT make a coaching change with the expectation of a improvement and the new players He brough in,What happen,well it was a huge step back,now a new season same Coach more new players to improve the team,well Game 1 the Oil Dominate a weaker team that played the night before and gets beat 5-2 but dominated that weaker team,so can we really say there was a improvement againts a weaker team?next game the better Goalie will play for the Oil but if the Oil gets beat dominating Vancouver is that still a improvement?
- AlEx_OiL

Oh yeah. The 7th last vs 3rd last comment. Forgot about that beaut.

If we wanna argue semantics; the oilers had a bunch of players that had played together full time for months. Almost no one else had that. Started strong in a short time frame, but still wilted down the stretch. In fact; we were in 8th spot at one point and lost 9 of the next ten when it mattered. Yay Krueger. And ended up nosediving further. If The season goes on, we finish worse. His subsequent job offers are proof enough of what gm's thought of his work in Edm.

This improvement u speak of is marginal at best
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 10 @ 3:20 AM ET
Oh yeah. The 7th last vs 3rd last comment. Forgot about that beaut.

If we wanna argue semantics; the oilers had a bunch of players that had played together full time for months. Almost no one else had that. Started strong in a short time frame, but still wilted down the stretch. In fact; we were in 8th spot at one point and lost 9 of the next ten. And ended up nosediving further. The season goes on, we finish worse.

This improvement u speak of is marginal at best

- hugefemale dog77

The thing is even if it was marginal, you just agree that there was a improvement,something I can't even say about last season,with a full training camp and new players.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Oct 10 @ 3:28 AM ET
The thing is even if it was marginal, you just agree that there was a improvement,something I can't even say about last season,with a full training camp and new players.
- AlEx_OiL

I'm not neccasarily admitting anything. As I said, we probably finish relative to last year if we play 82 games. Take away the 'head start' we had with the kids in okc as well and it may have been worse.

48 games is an asterisk. That's all I'm willing to admit.

And training camp gives everyone a chance to get ready. Not just the oilers. It's not like somehow we should be better in relation to other teams cause we had a training camp. The only edge that might be true was the shortened season. Not the other way around
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Oct 10 @ 5:14 AM ET
Oilers should drop the hammer immediatley and go after Dan Bylsma because he's still unemployed! I'm sure coaching isn't the only problem but I never got a good vibe from Eakins right from the day he was hired. It's only one game but it's time to go after a legit NHL coach before the season goes down the toilet!
- NewfieStud


Coaching was a HUGE problem in this game. When Hunt is the second highest dman for TOI, there is a problem. Petry and Ference playing the least. Nail getting less time than Pouliot. I will repeat that... Pouliot. Eakins still won't give up that grudge.

Lets put it this way. Calgary with 1 PPG and both of EDM's were. Petry has a +/- of 0 but Fayne, who played more was -3.

The Oil out shot them with calgary getting more than half their shots in the third period. We had less give aways and more take aways. Our FO wins were almost twice theirs. We had 1/3 of the blocked shots because the d we had out were 1/3 as good as normal NHL dmen. We let Petry and Ference ride the bench and Ference still managed to get 1/3 of our total blocked shots himself. Petry had 5 of our 18 hits (highest on the team)

Yes Scrivens looked silly out there are some points but you can't fault him on goals like the last one. The Oilers were everywhere and he made about 30 saves before letting that one in. Only so much you can expect from him. Part of this is MacT. Nikinin and Fayne were not the answers to our problem. Hunt isn't even good enough for the Barons. Plus we should have had addressed our center issue.

Still Eakins had to go. We all knew it and hoped we were wrong but you can hang this on him. We had Calgary until the third period and yes I believe playing the right players could very well have made all the difference.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Oct 10 @ 6:20 AM ET
Coaching was a HUGE problem in this game. When Hunt is the second highest dman for TOI, there is a problem. Petry and Ference playing the least. Nail getting less time than Pouliot. I will repeat that... Pouliot. Eakins still won't give up that grudge.

Lets put it this way. Calgary with 1 PPG and both of EDM's were. Petry has a +/- of 0 but Fayne, who played more was -3.

The Oil out shot them with calgary getting more than half their shots in the third period. We had less give aways and more take aways. Our FO wins were almost twice theirs. We had 1/3 of the blocked shots because the d we had out were 1/3 as good as normal NHL dmen. We let Petry and Ference ride the bench and Ference still managed to get 1/3 of our total blocked shots himself. Petry had 5 of our 18 hits (highest on the team)


Agreed! Misuse of players and plain stubbornness of the coach, seen it all last year with Yak and starting all over again with others.

Yes Scrivens looked silly out there are some points but you can't fault him on goals like the last one. The Oilers were everywhere and he made about 30 saves before letting that one in. Only so much you can expect from him. Part of this is MacT. Nikinin and Fayne were not the answers to our problem. Hunt isn't even good enough for the Barons. Plus we should have had addressed our center issue.

Still Eakins had to go. We all knew it and hoped we were wrong but you can hang this on him. We had Calgary until the third period and yes I believe playing the right players could very well have made all the difference.

- Hall Fan

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