schenn just bothers me. i dont think hes worthless as an asset, but i dont really like him as a hockey fan.

he doesnt inspire ire like lucic or marchant, but still.
- stayinthefnnet

i don't like him either. he got his points last season, and he has his moments, but i'm just not a fan. i hope he becomes the player they think he can be, and they're patient. i just have this feeling about him being like a williams, sharp, jvr and seeing him blossom elsewhere. granted, the first three were flyers picks, and schenn was a trade, but still...

and for no good reason, here's Mike Ricci with an odd hat


- Jsaquella

wtf?

looks like Kris Kreider is replacing James Kneal in the skilled asshat category in the Metro
- wilsonecho91

his teammate moore is in the same unit. asshat. 5 and a game for his hit tonight. not the first time.

his teammate moore is in the same unit. asshat. 5 and a game for his hit tonight. not the first time.
- hammarby31

Something, something. Ex-Flyers.

Something, something.

And when those players are on teams that are bad, they are crippling -- nobody's saying anything you don't know. Why you want to argue the point is beyond me

Dion Phaneuf's contract is tough. It's worse when he has an NMC

David Clarkson's contract is bad. It's worse when he has an NTC/NMC

So on and so forth. The NTC isn't the least of a bad team's worries. It's the biggest worry, because right now, the Hurricanes can't just trade Eric Staal. They can't just trade Jordan Staal -- if they could even find a taker.

They have to trade them to a team they allow themselves to be traded to -- and you already know this. You know this is a huge problem. You just want to argue for whatever reason that makes sense to you
- AllInForFlyers

You made a statement that Rutherford did something that a GM just can't do. Which is give a NTC to a player that isn't elite. I simply pointed out that it happens all the time. And to look at other teams rosters. It's obvious you're not aware of how often movement clauses are given out to non elite players. I believe that Nick Grossmann has a movement clause.
I think you're overstating the role of a NTC. Flyers were able to trade Hartnell.
The reason why the NTC is the least of their worries, is because when you have a player earning a high salary, who is not playing up to that level, that in effect acts as a NTC. Because it's tough to deal him even if he didn't have the clause. So the real worry in the case of Carolina, is not that the Staal brothers have NTC's. It's that neither is playing to the level expected. And the team is floundering. That is far more of a problem to the team, then the NTC's.That's way down the list. And that's obvious. And I would think that you would already know that. Or maybe you don't.

This is a team that has made the playoffs twice in the past decade. It's more than fair to question the GM who assembled the team. Anyone can point out that big contracts were given to players who had shown they could produce and be good players, but at the same time, they largely haven't worked out as a team.

Regardless of whether the players were good when they signed their deals, the fact is the deals have not worked out. Every GM has a deal or two he'd like to forget. How much money was dumped by GMs in CBOs and even regular buyouts the past two summers?

Carolina has a $66mm payroll and has yet to win a game. Defending their contract choices is kind of Quixotic to say the least
- Jsaquella

Understanding and realizing the circumstances at the time the contract was signed, and taking that into consideration. Is far different from defending their contract choices. Real easy to be a monday morning quarterback.

There's some brutal contracts there. Eric Staal with 2 years $8.25mm, Jordan has 9 years left at $6mm. Semin's deal is mind boggling.
- Jsaquella

Not it isn't. When he signed it he had better career stats than Jeff Carter - in the regular season and in the playoffs. Then he got hurt.

Not it isn't. When he signed it he had better career stats than Jeff Carter - in the regular season and in the playoffs. Then he got hurt.
- Feanor

when the Capitals cut ties, Semin went nearly a month without signing a deal, before signing the one year deal with the Canes. Even when he did originally sign with Carolina, Rutherford voiced concerns about him to the press, saying that they "...wouldn't want to get locked into anything, because we've all heard the stories"

Even after a big production year in the lockout shortened 2013 season, there was criticism about the deal, because a lot of folks found it risky to commit long term to a guy who, while productive, hasn't exactly been warmly regarded by former teams and teammates.

The guy is a world class talent, but he doesn't always play like one. Like a lot of others, I see giving him a long term deal a risky proposition.

Worst team in the league, whether it be due to injury or whatever else

Remember that Carolina fan who came around a few weeks ago who wanted to poke holes in the Flyers? Maybe that guy should have minded his own store a little more closely
- AllInForFlyers

Our team sucks. It is known. Doesn't mean yours can't suck too.

The problem with the Hurricanes has never been offense. The players in the top six have typically produced the way they needed too and, while often overpriced, they're generally alright.

The problems Carolina had under Jim Rutherford were ALWAYS depth related. Too many 4th liners tossed into 2nd or 3rd line roles due to a limited budget and grotesque mishandling of the team's youth.

The other big issue has been the defense. The Canes never seemed to have more than two decent defensemen at any given time. Even when the cup was won that was more about getting lucky with the D they had than any real planning.

It cannot be overstated how devastating the injury to Joni Pitkanen has been to this franchise, as well as how damaging the Kirk Muller/John MacLean years were.

Bill Peters is making some good headway, but with the team in the shape it currently is, and the complete lack of tradeable assets, it's going to take a couple years.