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wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 29 @ 7:54 PM ET
Clearly. I feel like Akeson is only on the roster because Hextall wants him to be.

I get the feeling Berube would much rather be surrounded by VDVs and Blair Jones'

- PhillySportsGuy


i was referring to Mr. VDV.
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
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Oct 29 @ 8:02 PM ET
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no goal for goalie interference
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
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Oct 29 @ 8:03 PM ET
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no goal for goalie interference

- wilsonecho91


Cant believe they waived that goal off
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 29 @ 8:04 PM ET
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no goal for goalie interference

- wilsonecho91

No way...that actually was waved off?
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
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Oct 29 @ 8:06 PM ET
No way...that actually was waved off?
- Giroux_Is_God



you tell me?

http://gfycat.com/Impertu...bableWeeklyGreathornedowl
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 29 @ 8:07 PM ET
No way...that actually was waved off?
- Giroux_Is_God


And he was given a penalty
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
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Oct 29 @ 8:08 PM ET
And he was given a penalty
- PhillySportsGuy

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 29 @ 8:11 PM ET
you tell me?

http://gfycat.com/Impertu...bableWeeklyGreathornedowl

- wilsonecho91

Unreal. Those guys should never be able to work an NHL game again
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Oct 29 @ 8:11 PM ET
And he was given a penalty
- PhillySportsGuy


Prolly a delayed call for goalie interference behind the net. When Detroit touched the puck by shooting it in, the call was made.

Or...a reallllly bad call.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 29 @ 8:13 PM ET
Prolly a delayed call for goalie interference behind the net. When Detroit touched the puck by shooting it in, the call was made.

Or...a reallllly bad call.

- 77rams


Awful call. Holtby fell well after Glendening skated away. Refs just plain missed it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 29 @ 8:15 PM ET
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no goal for goalie interference

- wilsonecho91



oh my god
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 29 @ 8:18 PM ET
oh my god

- MBFlyerfan

jesus christ that's a horrible call
wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 29 @ 8:20 PM ET
oh my god

- MBFlyerfan


if Glendenning pulled a Subban I might understand
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 29 @ 8:33 PM ET
Sounds like the Phantoms are struggling with three top dmen out. These are the forward lines.

23 Leier 21 Laughton 10 Gordon
24 Straka 25 Cousins 45 Stortini
36 Powe 17 Goumas 19 Alderson
11 Fyten 12 Johnston 29 Mathers
PhillySportsGuy
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Oct 29 @ 8:36 PM ET
Sounds like the Phantoms are struggling with three top dmen out. These are the forward lines.

23 Leier 21 Laughton 10 Gordon
24 Straka 25 Cousins 45 Stortini
36 Powe 17 Goumas 19 Alderson
11 Fyten 12 Johnston 29 Mathers

- Feanor


On the board tonight!
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 8:37 PM ET
Sounds like the Phantoms are struggling with three top dmen out. These are the forward lines.

23 Leier 21 Laughton 10 Gordon
24 Straka 25 Cousins 45 Stortini
36 Powe 17 Goumas 19 Alderson
11 Fyten 12 Johnston 29 Mathers

- Feanor


Was watching as a team moving the puck was an issue in the 1st
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 29 @ 8:38 PM ET
Sounds like the Phantoms are struggling with three top dmen out. These are the forward lines.

23 Leier 21 Laughton 10 Gordon
24 Straka 25 Cousins 45 Stortini
36 Powe 17 Goumas 19 Alderson
11 Fyten 12 Johnston 29 Mathers

- Feanor

They could use Akeson in there... just saying.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 8:40 PM ET
I don't know that this is accurate. Umberger was pretty pedestrian for a number of games and he doesn't seem to be doing much for that line. I like what he does on the PK though. Akeson doesn't get that chance on special teams, but
some of his even strength metrics compare favorably to Umberger. Akeson drives possession better, draws more penalties, has a better on ice save %. Of course he sees lesser competition vs. Umby, but also plays with lesser linemates.


- exlund


That would all be relevant if they were actually player stats that can be attributed to any one player. But they they aren't, they're team stats. Umberger plays more minutes against tougher opponents. While Akeson plays limited and sheltered minutes. Not comparable. Akeson also has better possession numbers then Couturier does. Does he compare favorably to Couturier also?


When Akeson played with Read and Coots last season, they were among the Flyers best lines against a very good team...and Akeson was a standout, while playing against tough matchups. He drove possession (best numbers on the Flyers), produced points and was good defensively. I don't agree with the perception that Akeson is a one dimensional player and/or a defensive liability. He has proven chemistry with that line and I don't see any reason that he shouldn't at least be given a shot to play on it or be somewhere in the top 9 mix.


- exlund


Akeson wasn't a standout. He played well for a call up. Nor did he drive possession. He was a passenger, not a driver. He is pretty much a one dimensional player. This year the only time he is effective in the very brief times that he has the puck on his stick.While I don't think he's a flat out liability, play without the puck is not a strong suit for him. Either in coverage or in puck battles. Nor is he strong on the forecheck where he can break pucks loose, or pressure the puck. He just doesn't skate well enough.
Chemistry is not proven in 7 games. Far too small of a sample size. For chemistry or any metric. He shouldn't be given a shot to play on the top 9 because he's not better then anyone currently there, even with Lecavalier out.



Like you said before, Akeson may get his chance at some point...maybe they end up trading a top 9 forward or there are injuries and he gets his shot...it's just kind of concerning to see how Berube seems to be calling him out for dubious reasons and reducing his already limited minutes when others that (had) more egregious mistakes get promoted. I feel that Akeson HAS earned his spot and deserves to get an extended look in the right role at some point. If the Flyers don't give him that opportunity, they risk repeating the mistakes of the past where they sell low on in-house talent only to see it blossom elsewhere.

- exlund


As I said before, Berube is trying to motivate and push Akeson to work on other areas of his game. Because the chances of him sticking or having a long NHL career aren't real strong if he doesn't add some other elements to his game. I don't see how Akeson has earned anything but a spot on the team. In fact, he hasn't done anything to catch the coaches eye, the way that players like Raffl, Bellemare, and even Vandevelde has lately. Who have all been on the 4th line, have done. Instead of gifting Akeson more playing time, he has to do something to earn it. And he has not done that to this point of the season.

And yes, I agree that there is a possibility that he could move on and blossom somewhere. But right now, I think patience is key. The season is 9 games old. Akeson will at some point get a chance. He'll have to make something of it. But right now, he isn't better then the other players who are in the top 9, and he hasn't done much to earn more playing time to this point.

Bottom line, I think he is a player who has some offensive potential. I think it is good to have a player with some puck skills for depth. Injuries happen.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 29 @ 8:42 PM ET
They could use Akeson in there... just saying.
- mayorofangrytown


And Rinaldo
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 29 @ 8:42 PM ET
Clearly. I feel like Akeson is only on the roster because Hextall wants him to be.

I get the feeling Berube would much rather be surrounded by VDVs and Blair Jones'

- PhillySportsGuy


That makes sense since Berube has played Akeson 7 games, and Jones 4 games.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 29 @ 8:47 PM ET
And Rinaldo
- ob18


And Gostisbehere & Manning.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 29 @ 8:47 PM ET

- Jsaquella

x2
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 29 @ 8:48 PM ET
Play nice
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 29 @ 8:48 PM ET
Play nice
- ob18


Always
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 29 @ 8:54 PM ET
And Gostisbehere & Manning.
- Jsaquella


Ahh yes the art of drafting & developing
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