Leafs aren't tanking.

I wish they would. They have needed a good few years of tanking for a long time now.

What you are seeing is just ineptitude. It is so awful that you are unable to accept that it is real.

No. I don't actually. I think it was a knee jerk insult from the peanut gallery with zero thought put into it. Chara couldn't skate. In fact he was by far the worst skater I've ever seen in my life and at the time was not projecting in any way shape or form to be the player he was/is today. Most people forget that or just don't know. The 2nd or 3rd overall(can't remember what it was?) was the main jist of that trade(which turned into Spezza). Not that I'm defending the trade in any way nor was I. I've never seen Myers lumped into a group with Chara and if he was why would you ever even think of trading him?


From all accounts from what I've read on this thread and elsewhere by Sabre fans is Myers is a legitimate first pairing defenseman in the making if not there already which is not the same circumstance. Again, comparison isn't a good one even if it was the intention which I don't believe it was. Also, how does it make any sense whatsoever to say "so we don't make the same mistakes you guys did" when I'm asking why would you trade him. That would only make sense if he said "we are not going to trade him so we don't make the same mistakes you guys did"
- Cptmjl

Ugh, the Myers stuff gets insane here, and many posters always throw in Chara with comparisons - you know, cuz he's crazy tall and stuff.

A couple blogs ago the dead horse was spotted, so if you care to suffer, you can see it

You are in that group as well.


- dadeadhead

I don't believe i am. You may not like what i have to say but I don't throw insults at people just to do it. Not my style.

I still don't ever see them moving him for a package. It potentially has the Phanuef trade written all over it. Calgary got what seemed like a haul, and it turned out to be highway robbery by Toronto

IMO if it happens, it's for a single top line goal scorer
- sbroads24

Phaneuf is the most overrated player in the league.

No. I don't actually. I think it was a knee jerk insult from the peanut gallery with zero thought put into it. Chara couldn't skate. In fact he was by far the worst skater I've ever seen in my life and at the time was not projecting in any way shape or form to be the player he was/is today. Most people forget that or just don't know. The 2nd or 3rd overall(can't remember what it was?) was the main jist of that trade(which turned into Spezza) along with Bill Muckalt as a throw in. Not that I'm defending the trade in any way nor was I. I've never seen Myers lumped into a group with Chara and if he was why would you ever even think of trading him?


From all accounts from what I've read on this thread and elsewhere by Sabre fans is Myers is a legitimate first pairing defenseman in the making if not there already which is not the same circumstance. Again, comparison isn't a good one even if it was the intention which I don't believe it was. Also, how does it make any sense whatsoever to say "so we don't make the same mistakes you guys did" when I'm asking why would you trade him. That would only make sense if he said "we are not going to trade him so we don't make the same mistakes you guys did"
- Cptmjl

I don't want to trade Myers unless they get back a king's ransom. But... He ain't no 1st pairing D man at the present time.... IMO

Unless he's a Sabre.

Leafs aren't tanking.

I wish they would. They have needed a good few years of tanking for a long time now.

What you are seeing is just ineptitude. It is so awful that you are unable to accept that it is real.
- Aetherial

I have a hard time thinking how anyone can believe that? To me it was a lame attempt at deflecting in this blog IMO. With that said I think Buffalo went into this year hoping for Mcdavid but didn't do everything in their power to "tank" it's just turning out that way.

I'm not a Myers fan but, how can you trade this kid with his size and skill? Makes me think we are going in the wrong direction.

Ugh, the Myers stuff gets insane here, and many posters always throw in Chara with comparisons - you know, cuz he's crazy tall and stuff.

A couple blogs ago the dead horse was spotted, so if you care to suffer, you can see it
- stashu

Nah, I'm good. lol. That posters reply still doesn't make sense as far as this reference so I'll go with my first impression.

I have a hard time thinking how anyone can believe that. To me it was a lame attempt at deflecting. With that said I think Buffalo went into this year hoping for Mcdavid but didn't do everything in their power to "tank" it's just turning out that way.
- Cptmjl

Management did. The players did not and are not, which is why Murray signed players like Benoit and Meszaros, to guard against that.

I'm not a Myers fan but, how can you trade this kid with his size and skill? Makes me think we are going in the wrong direction.
- SABRES 89

You've said they aren't, so keep your BP down. Part of the bennies you get in your situation

You've said they aren't, so keep your BP down. Part of the bennies you get in your situation
- stashu

So condescending.

Management did. The players did not and are not, which is why Murray signed players like Benoit and Meszaros, to guard against that.
- buffalofan19

Their offseason moves were solid (please let's not start the 5-year discussion up thouhh) and they caught decent press about it. It just didn't work out.

I don't believe i am. You may not like what i have to say but I don't throw insults at people just to do it. Not my style.
- Cptmjl

Wasn't an insult IMO.

If it was, get thicker skin. It's the internet and nothing said here really matters.

Management did. The players did not and are not, which is why Murray signed players like Benoit and Meszaros, to guard against that.
- buffalofan19

You think it's that much of a conspiracy? That's some convoluted stuff right there!

Apples and Oranges.

There was a risk with Ehrhoff, and he didn't want to play here. He was 31, Myers is 24.

There isn't a need to move Myers. If you move him, unless you get a great return, it's an epic fail on Murray.
- sbroads24

There isn't a need to keep him, either. With this team probably 4-5 years away, Risto, Zads, Pysyk and McCabe (and whoever else they may bring in) will/should form the core of this D. And that is a potentially great core.

If Myers nets you a scoring forward, then bye bye!

Nah, I'm good. lol. That posters reply still doesn't make sense as far as this reference so I'll go with my first impression.
- Cptmjl

if you don't get it ..then nvm

Wasn't an insult IMO.

If it was, get thicker skin. It's the internet and nothing said here really matters.
- dadeadhead

If you think for a second you or anyone else on hockeybuzz ruins my day I have a deal for Myers for you.

if you don't get it ..then nvm
- gerbe75pts

I don't think you get it that's what I'm getting at.

If you think for a second you or anyone else on hockeybuzz ruins my day I have a deal for Myers for you.
- Cptmjl

I have a bridge to sell you.

Real cheap.

I have a bridge to sell you.

Real cheap.


- dadeadhead

Yep

I don't think you get it that's what I'm getting at.
- Cptmjl

nvm You're looking at like i'm making fun of the NYI and that's not what i'm doing

There isn't a need to keep him, either. With this team probably 4-5 years away, Risto, Zads, Pysyk and McCabe (and whoever else they may bring in) will/should form the core of this D. And that is a potentially great core.

If Myers nets you a scoring forward, then bye bye!
- grand-magus

Pysyk and McCabe are struggling in the AHL. They can't be considered to replace Myers at this point.

nvm You're looking at like i'm making fun of the NYI and that's not what i'm doing
- gerbe75pts

I took it as you're making fun of Buffalo.

nvm You're looking at like i'm making fun of the NYI and that's not what i'm doing
- gerbe75pts

What is nvm and I did think that what were you saying?

There isn't a need to keep him, either. With this team probably 4-5 years away, Risto, Zads, Pysyk and McCabe (and whoever else they may bring in) will/should form the core of this D. And that is a potentially great core.

If Myers nets you a scoring forward, then bye bye!
- grand-magus

There also isn't a need to keep Risto, since we won't be good for a while. So if he can net us a scoring forward should we trade him too?