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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:01 AM ET



- hard-on nose


That was my avatar during the summer
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 3 @ 11:10 AM ET
That was my avatar during the summer
- Streit2ThePoint



Have you considered this one for winter?
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:11 AM ET
Classic 90's hockey hit! I always remember the saying growing up "dont admire your own pass" That's what Jags did. But in today's world that's a no go. 1-2 games. His elbow was up there too.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:12 AM ET
Why don't you just come back when the flyers make it out of the cellar?

- znagle


We're looking for advice on tanking to get the first overall pick, figure the Pens are the best organization to ask.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Dec 3 @ 11:13 AM ET


Have you considered this one for winter?

- eichiefs9



wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:14 AM ET
I have pads if you don't like to penetrate yourself? Let me know
- dbell646


Good to know that penetrating yourself doesn't bother you.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Dec 3 @ 11:17 AM ET
We're looking for advice on tanking to get the first overall pick, figure the Pens are the best organization to ask.
- wolfhounds


Trading your star players for no names worked for the Penguins

Simmonds for Zach Sill.......
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
Good to know that penetrating yourself doesn't bother you.
- wolfhounds

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:19 AM ET
Trading your star players for no names worked for the Penguins

Simmonds for Zach Sill.......

- cap1681


Damn it...I retract my request for advice!
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Dec 3 @ 11:20 AM ET
We're looking for advice on tanking to get the first overall pick, figure the Pens are the best organization to ask.
- wolfhounds


With the flyers roster they are doing a perfect job. I would trade giroux for a 3rd as well.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 3 @ 11:21 AM ET
Trading your star players for no names worked for the Penguins

Simmonds for Zach Sill.......

- cap1681


Our star players haven't requested trades yet, because despite it all, we actually have the money to pay their salaries and have a reputable NHL arena.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Dec 3 @ 11:23 AM ET
What is your fascination with math equations equaling -82?
- jmatchett383


Trade deadline - Jagr
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
Trade deadline - Jagr
- cap1681


He's saying trade Maata, and 2nd rounder, and a 15th rounder for Jagr?

Edit: Nevermind, trade dealine is 3/2/2015. The "-" between don't make sense. Any equals sign would be more fitting.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:25 AM ET
What is your fascination with math equations equaling -82?
- jmatchett383

I love Marty Straka

j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 3 @ 11:27 AM ET
We're looking for advice on tanking to get the first overall pick, figure the Pens are the best organization to ask.
- wolfhounds


Sign Ziggy Palffy, Richard Tarnstrom, and John LeClaire. Trade away Giroux for Kris Beech, Michael Sivek, Ross Lupaschuk and some other scrubs and you'll be good!
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 3 @ 11:28 AM ET
I love Marty Straka
- nbartley9



Oh how the tides have now turned my evil nemesis... Sitting just 4 feet from me is a signed game used stick by Straka.

Also, I can't hate you today, its "That retarded islander's fan came back again" day in here apparently.
ImScore71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.19.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:29 AM ET
Sutter and Pouliot for Yakupov, Petry, 2nd

There's just gotta be something that works with Edmonton. Petry is right handed and would make Martin expendable for future moves.

- YouMeAndDupuis9




Sorry the late reply but hell no. At this point Sutter isn't going anywhere. Idgaf when yak was drafted he's not worth Sutter straight up. Id love to get him but his stock is low to anyone but delusional Oilers fans.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 3 @ 11:31 AM ET
Four thoughts:

1. Spot on Ryan with this blog. We may disagree on other topics, but we are in virtual lockstep when it comes to how the NHL administrates discipline...ie, its a joke.

2. Beyond that, I love how everyone from coaches to other fans say "if that had happened to 87 or 71, they would be up in arms!!!" Well yeah, of course we would, because it was a dirty play! Dirty is dirty, whether it happens to a Pen or is being dished out by a Pen. Bortuzzo's hit was late and targeted the head. I was in the building and it looked late in live action and looks worse in slow mo. He deserves whatever supplemental discipline he gets (but to Ryan's point, he would get nothing had Jags gotten up and skated away, such is the moronic system we have to endure). Hopefully Jagr is OK.

3. The Penguins are no different in this regard than any other team. Mario tried to take this issue on at various points in time, the latest being after the Islanders fiasco. Unfortunately, he did it in a ham handed way, and did nothing but bring scorn and derision on himself and the team. The message was clear then and it remains clear: The rest of the power brokers in the NHL like the game the way it is just fine, thank you very much. Teams trying to promote clean play for the most part do nothing but come off as weak and easily pushed around. That absolutely happened to the Pens last year against the BJ's and the Rangers. The Pens didn't answer and they paid for that in the form of an epic collapse.

That's why I have no issues with the Pens having players like Downie, Bortuzzo, and Cooke and Ruutu before them. They are simply living by the unofficial laws of the jungle as set forth by the rest of the league. Crosby and Malkin take almost constant abuse every playoffs. That will never stop, so why should it be any different if the Pens abuse other teams stars as well. The first thing the Pens should have done when Sid got whacked in the Rangers series was run Hank. The first thing they should have done after the Leddy hit on Malkin was give Tavares a good hard crosscheck in the back. That's what the league almost begs teams to do. Its been going on for years, and I don't think its any coincidence that the pens won 2 cups with a guy like Ulfie patrolling the blue line and another with Matt Cooke on the team. Devils fans who will likely jump all over this post would do well to remember that they didn't win their first 2 cups until they had one of the dirtiest players in the history of the game in Claude Lemieux causing havoc against the opposition. I really don't want it to be this way, but until the league decides to get serious about how it administrates discipline and protecting its players, you need some guys on your own team to wear the black hat and be the villain.

Join the Dark Side. Let the Hate flow through you. Its the NHL way and it always has been.

Almost forgot....

4. I still hope it burns when Cptmjl pees.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 3 @ 11:33 AM ET


Have you considered this one for winter?

- eichiefs9


Oooooh that's a nice one
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Dec 3 @ 11:33 AM ET
Oh how the tides have now turned my evil nemesis... Sitting just 4 feet from me is a signed game used stick by Straka.

Also, I can't hate you today, its "That retarded islander's fan came back again" day in here apparently.

- Guile

Haha that's awesome, but not as awesome as this....

kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Dec 3 @ 11:33 AM ET
Bad hit, end of story.

Now, a proposal: Brian Doumalin for Alex Tanguay
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Dec 3 @ 11:44 AM ET

I was pretty excited when Jagr went flying last night. Now it's the morning after. I guess I will admit it was questionable if I can secretly be happy inside? I hope he is not hurt but you know, hockey hits at the moment just get me excited. The morning after everybody is a critic. Slow mo takes away the mojo.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Dec 3 @ 11:46 AM ET


Sorry the late reply but hell no. At this point Sutter isn't going anywhere. Idgaf when yak was drafted he's not worth Sutter straight up. Id love to get him but his stock is low to anyone but delusional Oilers fans.

- ImScore71


Obviously it all depends on how you value Yakupov. If you think he can be a 35-40 goal scorer with Sid or Geno throughout the course of their primes, yes you pull the trigger.

I really think Petry is a good defenseman and is right handed. While we clearly don't need more defenseman, I like how it sets us up with many options. Martin/Scuderi/etc become even more expendable to fill out other needs. Perhaps we just keep Pouliot and Petry out of the deal though.

Are Yakupov and Perron about the same value? In other words, if Sutter is roughly equal to Perron in value....how close is Sutter to Yakupov straight up?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 3 @ 11:49 AM ET
Haha that's awesome, but not as awesome as this....


- nbartley9


Jagr needs to pull his pants up higher, really get a good squeeze going.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Dec 3 @ 12:05 PM ET
Obviously it all depends on how you value Yakupov. If you think he can be a 35-40 goal scorer with Sid or Geno throughout the course of their primes, yes you pull the trigger.

I really think Petry is a good defenseman and is right handed. While we clearly don't need more defenseman, I like how it sets us up with many options. Martin/Scuderi/etc become even more expendable to fill out other needs. Perhaps we just keep Pouliot and Petry out of the deal though.

Are Yakupov and Perron about the same value? In other words, if Sutter is roughly equal to Perron in value....how close is Sutter to Yakupov straight up?

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Depends who you ask. It's likely not close to enough for Edmonton fans
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