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Here the 10 Pens I've hated the most:

10. Kristopher Letang - I just hate listening to Regis say his name over and over

9. Rob Brown - Every time he did that windmill, I want to break off one of his arms and beat him with it.

8. Kevin Stevens - Just an all around douchebag

7. Malkin - Another weaselly little cheap shot artist, plus he's uglier than a day old pile of dog poop

6. Tom Barasso - Hell, even his own teammates didn't like him!

5. Darius Kasparitis - A complete tool

4. James Neal - Can't stand this diving piece of poop, I truly hope he gets a career ending injury as soon as possible.

3. Crosby - What a whiny little female dog! I'll always love Derian Hatcher for cracking him upside the head in the little poop's rookie season!

2. Matt Cooke - The cheap shot king of the NHL. Another guy who needs a concussion in the worst way.

1. Ulf Samuelsson - He would be in my top 5 hated players of all time for sure. I don't think this utter piece of poop ever threw a clean hit in his life. If you don't believe me, just ask Cam Neely.
- BiggE

How on earth is Kasparitis NOT on your list? O.o

He's ranked 6 out of 7 in terms of competition faced, and only 1 regular (Streit) gets more OZ-starts. On top of all that, he's still negative in term of CF-rel.

The team has been playing better 5V5 lately... AMac's CF have been pulled up by that. Berube's been sheltering him. You're kind of looking at that 52% number in a vacuum.
- Tomahawk

I'm not. His CF% in the first part of the season when we was given first pairing minutes with Coburn out was around 43. That's why his Corsi Rel is still negative. Ever since he was taken off the first pairing he's performed well, whether his partner was Streit, LSchenn, MDZ or Colaiacovo.

And he's actually ahead of MDZ and LSchenn in Corsi Rel QoC.

http://www.behindthenet.c...+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67#

How on earth is Kasparitis NOT on your list? O.o
- Fast_Eddie_1

#5?

This is what it boils down to for me and it really doesn't matter if people agree.

The most major move made by Hextall has been the Umberger deal. It was a bad deal for what we had to give up. One serious thing to note is we lack toughness, especially since moving Hartnell was traded. We also had a chance to sign Steve Ott, most of you didn't want him but I did. We also lost scoring and a guy who had chemistry on the top line.

With this said, when you look at the draft Hextall did well but it's not like we haven't drafted well prior. One season before having Travis Sanheim and Nicolas Aube-Kubel, we already had Samuel Morin, Scott Laughton, Shayne Gostisbehere and Robert Hagg. So excuse me if I don't go all nutty and feel we couldn't have drafted with without Hextall.

As for our signings, they were all safe signings. My honest opinion of Nick Schultz, he's been OK. However, he was signed here as a 7th defenseman because he was playing as a 7th defenseman last season. He isn't this miracle signing. As for Bellemare, Del Zotto and Colaiacovo to go along with Schultz, they're just a bunch of guys filling space. I like them but I don't think they're incredible finds.

I'm not asking for Hextall to be fired, I never was. However, I do think it's silly to assume that if he made a deal now rather then the deadline that he's making a "rash decision". How does one move to improve us, hurt us anymore then we already are? It's not just Vinny and Umberger who are going to be moved out. It might have to be Grossmann, Coburn, I would try to find takers for MacDonald, maybe Streit. Maybe he can do it, maybe he can't. Berube might be up for being fired. What kind of value does Raffl or Read have? He very well might have to wait but I think one move (if there was one) could have made our season more enjoyable.

Now if I'm a jack ass, then I'm a jack ass but it doesn't make scene to cry daily while putting all our hopes into the future. Sheesh, sounds like a black slave movie, especially when this is far from a slave situation!

We're in 6th, Marner is ranked 7th.
- Feanor

He is so small. I really want to see the Flyers draft size with skill.

He is so small. I really want to see the Flyers draft size with skill.
- nastyflyergirl

wait? so size DOES matter?

I'm ok waiting to the trade deadline mainly because in my view the players we are willing to part with are "nice to have" versus "must have" type players. The theory is that those guys have their value rise at the trade deadline. If something happens before that so be it but I bet most teams are feeling things out and mostly waiting. So a trade may just not be there.

He is so small. I really want to see the Flyers draft size with skill.
- nastyflyergirl

Lawson Crouse would be your guy

This is what it boils down to for me and it really doesn't matter if people agree.

The most major move made this Hextall has been here in the Umberger deal. It was a bad deal for what we had to give up. One serious thing to note isn't we lack toughness, especially since moving Hartnell. We also had a chance to sign Steve Ott, most of you didn't want him but I did. We also lost scoring and a guy who had chemistry on the top line.

With the said, when you look at the draft Hextall did well but it's not like we haven't drafted well prior. One season before having Travis Sanheim and Nicolas Aube-Kubel, we already had Samuel Morin, Scott Laughton, Shayne Gostisbehere and Robert Hagg. So excuse me if I don't go all nutty and feel we couldn't have drafted with without Hextall.

As for our signing, they were all safe signing. My honest opinion of Nick Schultz, I don't he's been OK. However, he was signed here as a 7th defenseman because he was playing as a 7th defenseman last season. He isn't the miracle signing. As for Bellemare, Del Zotto and Colaiacovo to go along with Schultz, they're just a bunch of guys filling space. I like them but I don't think they're incredible finds.

I'm not asking for Hextall to be fired, I never was. However, I do think it's silly to assume that if he made a deal now rather then the deadline that he's pushing to make a rash decision. How does one move to improve us hurt us anymore then we already are? It's not just Vinny and Umberger who are going to be moved out. It might have to be Grossmann, Coburn, I would try to find takers for MacDonald, maybe Streit. Maybe he can do it, maybe he can't. Berube might be up for being fired. What kind of value does Raffl or Read have? He very well might have to wait but I think one move (if there was one) could have made our season more enjoyable.

Now if I'm a jack ass, then I'm a jack ass.
- SuperSchennBros

Im happy hes done jack squat. There is no quick fix to this mess and you just have to let it run its course...

there are two things he can do which might help in the short term but cripple this team in 2 years..

1. trade youth for vets

2. sign more bad contracts in FA

in 2/3 years youll be wishing that hartnell was off the books...does he make the flyers a better team now? sure he does...for once a flyers gm is looking at the longer term picture and not what can we do now...time will fix all of this youll see. Lets face it, he cant spend his way out of this.

Lawson Crouse would be your guy
- 3flyerkids

not that I have seen these guys much this year. I will have to start watching more junior games the second halk of the season. but as of right now I like Strome. But like I said its not like I have seen much of any of these kids yet.

I'm not. His CF% in the first part of the season when we was given first pairing minutes with Coburn out was around 43. That's why his Corsi Rel is still negative. Ever since he was taken off the first pairing he's performed well, whether his partner was Streit, LSchenn, MDZ or Colaiacovo.

And he's actually ahead of MDZ and LSchenn in Corsi Rel QoC.

http://www.behindthenet.c...+30+32+33+34+45+46+63+67#
- Feanor

If you want to restrict the sample to just the games since his injury, he's been getting almost 60% OZS against 2nd/3rd-tier comp. Kind of lends itself to better numbers, no?

(btw, I'm not denying he's played much better lately than at the start.)

I miss them!
Everyone knows I adore Grossmann - as lumbering as he is we miss him clearing the porch and wrapping people up to, ya know, stop shots and stuff...

And I don't feel anyone we are calling up can reach Coburn's level of play.
- FlyersGrace

Agree with you in both, although Coburn has been frustrating to watch this year.
Grossmann would have fought Martin yesterday when he was running at Flyers.
He is a great character guy and teammate. I know he is bad at Corsi but they miss him.

Im happy hes done jack squat. There is no quick fix to this mess and you just have to let it run its course...

there are two things he can do which might help in the short term but cripple this team in 2 years..

1. trade youth for vets

2. sign more bad contracts in FA

in 2/3 years youll be wishing that hartnell was off the books...does he make the flyers a better team now? sure he does...for once a flyers gm is looking at the longer term picture and not what can we do now...time will fix all of this youll see. Lets face it, he cant spend his way out of this.
- PhillaBully

You might be right right but I just don't think the moves made are fantastic! If we such for a number of years, it might be tough getting players to want to come here for along time and we need to seem attractive around the league too. We have to hope we drafted, trade and sign the right players along the way.

This is what it boils down to for me and it really doesn't matter if people agree.

The most major move made this Hextall has been here in the Umberger deal. It was a bad deal for what we had to give up. One serious thing to note isn't we lack toughness, especially since moving Hartnell. We also had a chance to sign Steve Ott, most of you didn't want him but I did. We also lost scoring and a guy who had chemistry on the top line.

With the said, when you look at the draft Hextall did well but it's not like we haven't drafted well prior. One season before having Travis Sanheim and Nicolas Aube-Kubel, we already had Samuel Morin, Scott Laughton, Shayne Gostisbehere and Robert Hagg. So excuse me if I don't go all nutty and feel we couldn't have drafted with without Hextall.

As for our signing, they were all safe signing. My honest opinion of Nick Schultz, I don't he's been OK. However, he was signed here as a 7th defenseman because he was playing as a 7th defenseman last season. He isn't the miracle signing. As for Bellemare, Del Zotto and Colaiacovo to go along with Schultz, they're just a bunch of guys filling space. I like them but I don't think they're incredible finds.

I'm not asking for Hextall to be fired, I never was. However, I do think it's silly to assume that if he made a deal now rather then the deadline that he's pushing to make a rash decision. How does one move to improve us hurt us anymore then we already are? It's not just Vinny and Umberger who are going to be moved out. It might have to be Grossmann, Coburn, I would try to find takers for MacDonald, maybe Streit. Maybe he can do it, maybe he can't. Berube might be up for being fired. What kind of value does Raffl or Read have? He very well might have to wait but I think one move (if there was one) could have made our season more enjoyable.

Now if I'm a jack ass, then I'm a jack ass.
- SuperSchennBros

I don't disagree with you that you can still make trades before the deadline and get value if the right deal is made. But now that teams are closer to the playoff run you have a better idea on who needs what. Tampa just lost a defensman so now they might be quicker to give you more compared to a couple weeks ago.

Teams now might think they need more seondary scoring so maybe you get more for Read then previously or maybe someone thinks they can get something out of umberger or Vinny.

I think by waiting the Flyers can extract a little more then what they might have been able to get a couple weeks ago. At the All-star weekend teams will all be talking to see who needs what.

I imagine Lauridsen and Manning will be sent right back down after the game being the all star break starts and the Phantoms are fighting for a playoff spot. Curiosity, do they both have to go through waivers to be send down?

He is so small. I really want to see the Flyers draft size with skill.
- nastyflyergirl

But very talented, Zacha & Rantanen might be what you are looking for or even Oliver Kylington

Lawson Crouse would be your guy
- 3flyerkids

Another good choice

You might be right right but I just don't think the moves made are fantastic! If we such for a number of years, it might be tough getting players to want to come here for along time and we need to seem attractive around the league too. We have to hope we drafted, trade and sign the right players along the way.
- SuperSchennBros

I don't think players will not want to come here. Philly is an attractive market. Always a packed house, they know they want to win. They know the owner would pony up to do whatever for this club.

Another good choice
- ob18

Yeah, if you want a big, skilled 15 goal scorer

If you want to restrict the sample to just the games since his injury, he's been getting almost 60% OZS against 2nd/3rd-tier comp. Kind of lends itself to better numbers, no?

(btw, I'm not denying he's played much better lately than at the start.)
- Tomahawk

And before his injury he was getting less than 40% OZ starts and facing the hardest competition amongst the D (basically Couturier minutes, but more of them) which was ridiculous usage for a guy with his defensive frailties.

People wanted MacDonald out so Colaiacovo could replace him. So CC gets in and gives up two breakaway goals in three games with awful positioning, and then gets hurt again. Meanwhile MacDonald's at 52 CF% since returning from his injury and the bloggers who used to call him one of the worst dmen in the league based on Corsi stats are nowhere to be seen.
- Feanor

How MacDonald is actually playing, apparently doesn't have any bearing on how he is rated as a player by much of the fanbase.

Yeah, if you want a big, skilled 15 goal scorer



















- Jsaquella

banned

Yeah, if you want a big, skilled 15 goal scorer



















- Jsaquella

Not going to work, you would like him too

And before his injury he was getting less than 40% OZ starts and facing the hardest competition amongst the D (basically Couturier minutes, but more of them) which was ridiculous usage for a guy with his defensive frailties.
- Feanor

So he does well in sheltered, hand fed minutes and struggles when asked to carry a heavy load?

Sounds like exactly what most rational people who didn't like his contract in the first place took issue with. Not that he's terrible, just that he's a limited guy who needs to be sheltered.

If you want to restrict the sample to just the games since his injury, he's been getting almost 60% OZS against 2nd/3rd-tier comp. Kind of lends itself to better numbers, no?

(btw, I'm not denying he's played much better lately than at the start.)
- Tomahawk

Finally he is being correctly used for the first time in his career. He is not a shut down first pairing defenseman that should be used against top lines.