Shutout.
- wolfhounds

AND the gwg

Shea Weber is a better proven elite NHL player than Connor McDavid, who has yet to prove he can succeed at the pro level.
- jmatchett383

Also pushing 30. Would be a terrible trade in the long run.

Hypothetically say the Flyers won the draft lottery, and didn't take McDavid. What would the reaction be?
- PLindbergh31

A lot of disbelief and anger... but 10 years from now I won't be surprised if Eichel is just as good as McDavid.

Bust. Flipping burgers in two years.
- Doc_Sarcasm

mc david and mac donald at mc donalds???

Also pushing 30. Would be a terrible trade in the long run.
- hereticpride

And if McDavid turns into Alex Daigle or Patrick Stefan? Or even Lecalvalier, Thornton, or Yakupov?

That will not matter at all. McDavid is generally considered THAT good. You could get Weber plus for him.
- TheGreat28

Then the Flyers should.

Wow! The backread today is amazing -- early morning rage!

A lot of disbelief and anger... but 10 years from now I won't be surprised if Eichel is just as good as McDavid.
- Feanor

you never know....both kids are pretty talented....Its like Hall or Seguin?....Malkin or Ovie ? I think both players are going to do their organization proud.

And if McDavid turns into Alex Daigle or Patrick Stefan? Or even Lecalvalier, Thornton, or Yakupov?
- jmatchett383

You could get a better return than Weber. This team isn't one D man away from greatness anyway.

Wow! The backread today is amazing -- early morning rage!
- AllInForFlyers

I skipped it....same old same old.

You would think it's a no brainer.
- PLindbergh31

All kidding aside, having Giroux in hand kind of changes the usual calculus a bit.

Maybe I'd take McD, see how he develops, and then try like heck to move G for a huge return in the near future while he's still in his prime. Recchi -> Rico/Leclair kind of deal.

I'd be totally fine with them taking Eichel (him + G would be a stellar tandem, IMO)... but I'd really explore trading down to #2 if that were the case. Try to get some more assets, etc.

But yeah, there would be absolute pandemonium amongst the laymen.

Also pushing 30. Would be a terrible trade in the long run.
- hereticpride

What if Nashville offered you Weber, Forsberg, Fiala/Ellis/similar prospect or younger vet, and their #1?

Long term it might favor Nashville, but considering G's age it might be a better package for now.

A lot of disbelief and anger... but 10 years from now I won't be surprised if Eichel is just as good as McDavid.
- Feanor

This.

What if Nashville offered you Weber, Forsberg, Fiala/Ellis/similar prospect or younger vet, and their #1?

Long term it might favor Nashville, but considering G's age it might be a better package for now.
- TheGreat28

No player in NHL history is worth that type of package

I skipped it....same old same old.
- landros 2

Hypothetically say the Flyers won the draft lottery, and didn't take McDavid. What would the reaction be?
- PLindbergh31

What if Nashville offered you Weber, Forsberg, Fiala/Ellis/similar prospect or younger vet, and their #1?

Long term it might favor Nashville, but considering G's age it might be a better package for now.
- TheGreat28

Elite defenseman under 30
Guy running away with the Calder Trophy
Top-flight prospect
First round pick

or

Top undrafted prospect who has yet to play 1 professional game

Hmmm....decisions, decisions.

No player in NHL history is worth that type of package
- PhillySportsGuy

Well maybe Howe, Orr, Gretzky and Lemieux

All kidding aside, having Giroux in hand kind of changes the usual calculus a bit.

Maybe I'd take McD, see how he develops, and then try like heck to move G for a huge return in the near future while he's still in his prime. Recchi -> Rico/Leclair kind of deal.

I'd be totally fine with them taking Eichel (him + G would be a stellar tandem, IMO)... but I'd really explore trading down to #2 if that were the case. Try to get some more assets, etc.

But yeah, there would be absolute pandemonium amongst the laymen.
- Tomahawk

I wouldn't trade Giroux unless it was a massive overpayment. I'd rather trade Voracek and keep the 1-2-3 punch of Giroux-McDavid-Couturier. Voracek could bring back a bunch of depth/high end prospect/picks

What if Nashville offered you Weber, Forsberg, Fiala/Ellis/similar prospect or younger vet, and their #1?

Long term it might favor Nashville, but considering G's age it might be a better package for now.
- TheGreat28

Wouldn't happen. Nashville is doing great for themselves. Why would they make a move like that?

OEL, Domi, top 12 pick is slightly more realistic.

Well maybe Howe, Orr, Gretzky and Lemieux
- BiggE

After looking back at their accomplishments, yes.

Well maybe Howe, Orr, Gretzky and Lemieux
- BiggE

Not if you're Nashville though. McDavid can walk after 7 years (likely age 25). Can Nashville put together a good enough team without much on ice talent, few high end prospects, no first round pick and limited financial resources in 7 years?

Edit: This is assuming McDavid becomes an all world talent like those guys mentioned above.

Why do I have a feeling the Pens have an agenda tonight.


Pens recall AHL tough guy Farnham prior to Flyers tilt


Mike Halford

Jan 20, 2015, 12:16 PM EST

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Pittsburgh made an intriguing roster move on Wednesday morning, prior to its Rivalry Night matchup against Philadelphia — Bobby Farnham, the penalty minutes leader with AHL Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, has been recalled and appears ready to suit up this evening.


Bobby Farnham, freshly recalled here to Philly: ‘You watch so many Penguins-Flyers games, you know what’s expected.’ Yep

— Dejan Kovacevic (@Dejan_Kovacevic) January 20, 2015


I suggested to Bobby Farnham that he was made for Penguins-Flyers. He did not disagree. — Josh Yohe (@JoshYohe_Trib) January 20, 2015

Farnham, 25, has fought 10 times this season — seven in the American League and three in 10 games with Pittsburgh. The Brown University product has made a name for himself over the last two AHL campaigns as an undersized (5-foot-10, 180 pounds) yet willing combatant; in ’12-13, he fought 21 times while racking up a staggering 274 PIM and last year, Farnham fought 12 times while taking 166 penalty minutes.

In a recent USA Today profile, Farnham explained how he approaches things at the NHL level:

Farnham proudly notes that he’s started turning down fights, something he never did in his first year with Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, when he got in 25 fights and would go with just about anyone who glanced in his general direction. He fought big guys even, guys way out of his weight class, guys who’d put him down in seconds. He’s stopped that.

“I’ve earned that right. I tell guys to [expletive] themselves now. I’ll say that, too. I’ll say: ‘Go [expletive] yourself.’ I can do that now.” He pauses, then laughs.

“Well, I can do that down in the AHL. I can’t do that up here.”


Bobby Farnham is mic’d in the penalty box. You’ll probably want to see this. https://t.co/aoTBPySjdx

— Pittsburgh Penguins (@penguins) January 5, 2015

Wouldn't happen. Nashville is doing great for themselves. Why would they make a move like that?

OEL, Domi, top 12 pick is slightly more realistic.
- hereticpride

You make a very good point. The Weber fantasies need to be put to bed.

Reporters saying Greiss is first off ice today, likely Pens starter tonight
- Jsaquella

Damn - that lessons the Emery vs. Fleury extravaganza chances...