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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 20 @ 6:50 PM ET
8 teams total. 6 of being Canada, USA, Czech, Sweden, Finland and Russia

One team of under 23 year old NORTH AMERICAN players. One team of "euro all stars" from other countries not listed in the top 6.

(frank)ing child play. Wont hold a candle to the Olympics or IIHF tournament. Even with north American media shoving this down the throats of the masses.

- flyer_nutter


NHL needs to outsource it's brainstorming... the Metropolitan division, uneven conferences, adding the Stadium Series on top of the WC, propping the Coyotes up, failing in Atlanta twice, and now this... man.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 6:52 PM ET
yeah i dont blame you. thats what its going to take. and if you think the player makes the difference, you have to do what you have to do.

i just dont think orpik can play at the level to justify that overreach.

however, i know the feeling. id offer the same deal to giordano and then move virtually whatever necessary to make it work

- stayinthefnnet


Just to clarify, we're talking about Boychuck. Orpik has made a considerable difference in Washington. That has been a very good signing for them.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 20 @ 6:52 PM ET
anyone see this article?

oh boy

Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 20 @ 6:53 PM ET
I wouldn't hesitate for a second to pay him Orpik years and money. That would be cheap. I wouldn't be able to get the contract signed and approved fast enough.
- MJL

I think this is the first time we've ever agreed completely on one thing!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 6:54 PM ET
I think this is the first time we've ever agreed completely on one thing!
- Isles_since_6


It's a late Chrismtmas miracle!
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 20 @ 6:54 PM ET
NHL needs to outsource it's brainstorming... the Metropolitan division, uneven conferences, adding the Stadium Series on top of the WC, propping the Coyotes up, failing in Atlanta twice, and now this... man.
- Tomahawk


I am going to love to see the jersey for that "euro all star team". What the (frank) will that be, a rainbow? Young stars will have a baby bottle on the crest? Lactating boobs? Its cheesy marketing. Thank god for the traditional IIHF and Olympic approach. At least leave the game some class.

Although some would also say the perversion of sports, and over marketing are similar to roman gladiator times of just distracting people from the real issues in the world. Everyone knows kim Kardashian or who is in the superbowl...

We all know Im a conspiracy guy.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 20 @ 6:56 PM ET
Just to clarify, we're talking about Boychuck. Orpik has made a considerable difference in Washington. That has been a very good signing for them.
- MJL


yeah. i know.

i just meant that sometimes if you really think a player is the guy that would make the difference, its worth a bit of an overpayment.

you would do it for boychuck. i would do it for giordano.

i still cant get on board that orpik is an overall good signing. but then again, if they win the cup this year, who am i to say?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 20 @ 6:56 PM ET
it is pretty funny.

but greiss is typically decent. usually wont win or lose the game for you.

- stayinthefnnet


That's usually fine for a back up. He was at or near the top of my list for Flyers back up this past summer.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jan 20 @ 6:57 PM ET
EJ Hradek and Steve Mears both just picked the Pens to win tonight (along with most of the free world, the communist world and the muslim jihadist world), so... book it... Flyers to win tonight!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 20 @ 6:58 PM ET
I am going to love to see the jersey for that "euro all star team".
- flyer_nutter




Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jan 20 @ 6:58 PM ET
huge fan of the World Cup of Hockey news

nice to see it focus on fun, interesting scenarios instead of these other international tournaments that try so hard to pretend to have meaning.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jan 20 @ 6:58 PM ET
huge fan of the World Cup of Hockey news

nice to see it focus on fun, interesting scenarios instead of these other international tournaments that try so hard to pretend to have meaning.

- Crimsoninja



To anyone outside of NA I suppose.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jan 20 @ 6:59 PM ET



- Tomahawk



He's a lumberjack.. and he's ok?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 20 @ 6:59 PM ET
yeah. i know.

i just meant that sometimes if you really think a player is the guy that would make the difference, its worth a bit of an overpayment.

you would do it for boychuck. i would do it for giordano.

i still cant get on board that orpik is an overall good signing. but then again, if they win the cup this year, who am i to say?

- stayinthefnnet


Boychuk's stock has apparently shot through the roof over the past 4-mos... incredible.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 20 @ 7:00 PM ET
He's a lumberjack.. and he's ok?
- Doc_Sarcasm


Lederhosen
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 20 @ 7:00 PM ET
yeah. i know.

i just meant that sometimes if you really think a player is the guy that would make the difference, its worth a bit of an overpayment.

you would do it for boychuck. i would do it for giordano.

i still cant get on board that orpik is an overall good signing. but then again, if they win the cup this year, who am i to say?

- stayinthefnnet


Orpik is providing a huge physical presence on that team, and is playing a lot of hard minutes. It's allowed them to take a lot off of Alzner, and allowed them to slot and use other defenseman properly. Orpik has been a big key to that team actually becoming a solid defensive team when they haven't been in the past.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 20 @ 7:01 PM ET
That's usually fine for a back up. He was at or near the top of my list for Flyers back up this past summer.
- Jsaquella

oh yeah. im totally fine with him for his role and salary. i wish theyd use him more this season.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jan 20 @ 7:02 PM ET
Orpik is providing a huge physical presence on that team, and is playing a lot of hard minutes. It's allowed them to take a lot off of Alzner, and allowed them to slot and use other defenseman properly. Orpik has been a big key to that team actually becoming a solid defensive team when they haven't been in the past.
- MJL



Considering how bad he looked for so much of last year, I'm shocked. I still wouldnt want to be locked in for another 4 or 5 years (whatever he's got left).
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 20 @ 7:03 PM ET


Well your new coach finally figured out part of it. Start the backup goalie

- Jsaquella


I was just thinking that. Without being able to face fleury, we probably lose.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 20 @ 7:03 PM ET
Lets go flyers!
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 20 @ 7:04 PM ET
Orpik is providing a huge physical presence on that team, and is playing a lot of hard minutes. It's allowed them to take a lot off of Alzner, and allowed them to slot and use other defenseman properly. Orpik has been a big key to that team actually becoming a solid defensive team when they haven't been in the past.
- MJL


maybe a change of scenery/trotz's system is helping him out a good bit. but he really started to lose it in his last season with the pens. and there is 0 way he lives up the term.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 20 @ 7:04 PM ET
Lederhosen
- Jsaquella


YoungStars will look like underoos.

Binky mouthpieces.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jan 20 @ 7:06 PM ET
Lederhosen
- Jsaquella



Because I'm a bad person, the first thought that popped into my head when I saw that getup was... "Man, I bet fat Phil Kessel would look hilarious in that uni."
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 20 @ 7:06 PM ET
Boychuk's stock has apparently shot through the roof over the past 4-mos... incredible.
- Tomahawk


it has. but really, its been a perfect storm for him.

you can tell his not just a byproduct of boston right now. he is getting to be the horse, and he is answering the bell. and the team itself has experienced a good step forward, which only makes his star shine a little brighter.

definitely a good defenseman. and i think theyve all seen their stock go up lately haha
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jan 20 @ 7:07 PM ET
maybe a change of scenery/trotz's system is helping him out a good bit. but he really started to lose it in his last season with the pens. and there is 0 way he lives up the term.
- stayinthefnnet


I'd be surprised if he's playing as well as he is now in a year or two, but Trotz is a very capable coach. He knows how to get the most out of his defensemen, and his impact is probably a bigger reason for the Capitals success this year than anything.

Holtby's also been a monster for them. Looking at what they did this summer, it really could have gone either way
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