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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 30 @ 9:58 AM ET
I don't think he'll get you a 1st based on his health condition and age. However, if you're approached with an offer for him that's in the 2nd round or better, the Flyers should ask him what he'd like to do and respect his wishes.
- jmatchett383


I know it's Timonen, but I'd be very surprised were an offer that high.

Were I the GM of a legit Cup contender I'd wish him well in his return to the Flyers and move on.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
I'd have to agree.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
Because Schenn is 25, a right handed dman and only has one year left at a relatively reasonable 3.6 million, he is moveable. You won't get more than a 3rd but you wouldn't have to eat money or take back a bad contract.
- BiggE


We'll agree to disagree. If they were to put him on waivers he would go unclaimed IMO
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 30 @ 10:01 AM ET
Because Schenn is 25, a right handed dman and only has one year left at a relatively reasonable 3.6 million, he is moveable. You won't get more than a 3rd but you wouldn't have to eat money or take back a bad contract.
- BiggE

Schenn could be useful to a team like Vancouver or Anaheim. I would push for 2nd but take a third. Hell, I would even throw in Rinaldo.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 10:02 AM ET
Hell, due to his contract, if someone offered a 4th for AMac, I'd make the deal in a second!
- BiggE

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 30 @ 10:02 AM ET
I know it's Timonen, but I'd be very surprised were an offer that high.

Were I the GM of a legit Cup contender I'd wish him well in his return to the Flyers and move on.

- Scoob


Which is fine with me. If that's the case, I hope he finished his career here.

Still, I think that a Cup contender misses out of some of the other D near the end of the TDL, they may get a little antsy and give an offer for him.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 30 @ 10:03 AM ET
We'll agree to disagree. If they were to put him on waivers he would go unclaimed IMO
- Just5


No chance. Teams around the NHL horde defensemen. There would be multiple claims on him.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 30 @ 10:03 AM ET
I know it's Timonen, but I'd be very surprised were an offer that high.

Were I the GM of a legit Cup contender I'd wish him well in his return to the Flyers and move on.

- Scoob



Depends on who the contender is, but overall I think I agree. I would like to start bouncing around which teams could use Timonen as that final push piece.

A team that has the prospect and or pick depth to take the shot. There HAVE to be some of those teams who fit that bill.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jan 30 @ 10:04 AM ET

- BulliesPhan87

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 30 @ 10:07 AM ET
Streit is so valuable but if a first is there I would take it, and pursue a Green as a UFA.
- 3flyerkids


That's a terrible idea. Green is going to want a Niskanen type deal, and he's not that good anymore. The last thing we need is another huge, long term contract on defense.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 30 @ 10:09 AM ET
That's a terrible idea. Green is going to want a Niskanen type deal, and he's not that good anymore. The last thing we need is another huge, long term contract on defense.
- Feanor



Especially with how ufa dmen go for these days. Would be another contract to have to worry about. Especially if his game isn't that great snymore
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 30 @ 10:10 AM ET
That's a terrible idea. Green is going to want a Niskanen type deal, and he's not that good anymore.
- Feanor


Mmmm... he's still pretty darned good.

(not saying I'd bow to his contract demands, btw)
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 30 @ 10:11 AM ET
Great on the PP, but a third pairing guy at ES. And he gets injured a lot. So not someone I think the Flyers should be looking at giving 6/36 too.

No chance. Teams around the NHL horde defensemen. There would be multiple claims on him.
- bmeltzer


If the Flyers wanted to move LSchenn I think they could get a 2nd + Bryan Allen's expiring contract back from Montreal.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 10:12 AM ET
That's a terrible idea. Green is going to want a Niskanen type deal, and he's not that good anymore. The last thing we need is another huge, long term contract on defense.
- Feanor


That's what I am thinking.. Green's not goint to come here on a 1 yr deal. Having said that, if a team says, here's my 2015 1st for Streit, I take the deal and figure out a solution for next year. Someone offers a 3rd and AHLer, pound sand.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jan 30 @ 10:12 AM ET
If the Flyers wanted to move LSchenn I think they could get a 2nd + Bryan Allen's expiring contract back from Montreal.
- Feanor

I think that is wishful thinking.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Jan 30 @ 10:12 AM ET
Carle was a very good puck moving defenseman who was very underrated, and very unappreciated by many when he was here. He was an elite defenseman at Even strength when he was here.
- MJL

WHAT????!!!!!!
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jan 30 @ 10:14 AM ET
That's a terrible idea. Green is going to want a Niskanen type deal, and he's not that good anymore. The last thing we need is another huge, long term contract on defense.
- Feanor


Be suprised if Green gets a 7 year deal like Niskanen. Can't see him getting a huge raise
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 10:14 AM ET
I know it's Timonen, but I'd be very surprised were an offer that high.

Were I the GM of a legit Cup contender I'd wish him well in his return to the Flyers and move on.

- Scoob


With the value of draft picks, I can't see a team giving up a 2nd for Timonen as a rental... jsut too hight.. I could see a 3rd or a prospect that's fallen out of favour.. That's all.. Timonen may play out the string here..
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 30 @ 10:15 AM ET
Be suprised if Green gets a 7 year deal like Niskanen. Can't see him getting a huge raise
- 3flyerkids


Really? He's only 29. And $6m per year would actually be a pay cut.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 30 @ 10:18 AM ET
If you can replace his skills for cheaper, then why would you need a "nice package" for him?
- jmatchett383



Because you have him I am not just going to ship him for nothing. I am not saying he is bad but I think he got more then his skillset should. He is also not 30 yeat so he is still an asset. I just don't want to give him away since he is useful.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 30 @ 10:18 AM ET
Be suprised if Green gets a 7 year deal like Niskanen. Can't see him getting a huge raise
- 3flyerkids


I know offensive dmen are coveted, but I just don't think he'd be what we need. I am sure some team will give him 4 years 24 mil or something.. just don't think it should be us.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jan 30 @ 10:19 AM ET
Great on the PP, but a third pairing guy at ES. And he gets injured a lot. So not someone I think the Flyers should be looking at giving 6/36 too.
- Feanor


That's on a blueline that just added PIT's entire 2nd-pair, tho. If he were here, I'd suspect his usage would look exactly like Streit's -- 2nd-tier comp with starts heavily skewed toward the o-zone, oodles of PP time.

He's RH, younger and a better defender, too.

If they, say, could lure him for 2-years $7M/per and get a top-60 pick for Streit (however unlikely that is, due to term), it would be a pretty decent shuffle.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 30 @ 10:22 AM ET
Because you have him I am not just going to ship him for nothing. I am not saying he is bad but I think he got more then his skillset should. He is also not 30 yeat so he is still an asset. I just don't want to give him away since he is useful.
- J35Bacher


Right...but if you can get the same service for less money, and you can get SOMETHING for the more expensive service, why would you hold out on the more expensive service?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 30 @ 10:23 AM ET
That's on a blueline that just added PIT's entire 2nd-pair, tho. If he were here, I'd suspect his usage would look exactly like Streit's -- 2nd-tier comp with starts heavily skewed toward the o-zone, oodles of PP time.

He's RH, younger and a better defender, too. If they, say, could lure him for 2-years $7M/per and get a top-60 pick for Streit (however unlikely that is, due to term), it would be a pretty decent shuffle.

- Tomahawk



I think if Del Zotto is staying and you have Streit I don't think you really need Green. You also have Gostisbiere possibly close, depending on recovery of injury and offseason, that I don't know if Green would be the answer. Morin could be close to the team next season and so could Hagg. Just say you keep Streit, Del Zotto, Schultz, Schenn, MacDonald. Does adding Green really make things better? I would rather let Morin or Hagg maybe fill that slot.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jan 30 @ 10:24 AM ET
That's on a blueline that just added PIT's entire 2nd-pair, tho. If he were here, I'd suspect his usage would look exactly like Streit's -- 2nd-tier comp with starts heavily skewed toward the o-zone, oodles of PP time.

He's RH, younger and a better defender, too.

If they, say, could lure him for 2-years $7M/per and get a top-60 pick for Streit (however unlikely that is, due to term), it would be a pretty decent shuffle.

- Tomahawk

that'd work, but I think Green will almost certainly have longer term offers for not much less coin per
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