Really? He's only 29. And $6m per year would actually be a pay cut.
- Feanor

Well Streit is 37 making 5.2. Green for 5 years at 6 M. I don't know what offers would be, but I think players are comparable. Not to mention if you do get a first for Streit. It's a win for Flyers

Right...but if you can get the same service for less money, and you can get SOMETHING for the more expensive service, why would you hold out on the more expensive service?
- jmatchett383

Not sure what your saying.

Do you mean if there are cheaper options why would a team give you anything?

Well Streit is 37 making 5.2. Green for 5 years at 6 M. I don't know what offers would be, but I think players are comparable. Not to mention if you do get a first for Streit. It's a win for Flyers
- 3flyerkids

Right...but he'll likely want more than $6M per year was part of his point.

I think if Del Zotto is staying and you have Streit I don't think you really need Green. You also have Gostisbiere possibly close, depending on recovery of injury and offseason, that I don't know if Green would be the answer. Morin could be close to the team next season and so could Hagg. Just say you keep Streit, Del Zotto, Schultz, Schenn, MacDonald. Does adding Green really make things better? I would rather let Morin or Hagg maybe fill that slot.
- J35Bacher

I rather stick with our d or our prospects and spend the money to use on green on a forward

That's on a blueline that just added PIT's entire 2nd-pair, tho. If he were here, I'd suspect his usage would look exactly like Streit's -- 2nd-tier comp with starts heavily skewed toward the o-zone, oodles of PP time.

He's RH, younger and a better defender, too.

If they, say, could lure him for 2-years $7M/per and get a top-60 pick for Streit (however unlikely that is, due to term), it would be a pretty decent shuffle.
- Tomahawk

that would be awesome

I think if Del Zotto is staying and you have Streit I don't think you really need Green. You also have Gostisbiere possibly close, depending on recovery of injury and offseason, that I don't know if Green would be the answer. Morin could be close to the team next season and so could Hagg. Just say you keep Streit, Del Zotto, Schultz, Schenn, MacDonald. Does adding Green really make things better? I would rather let Morin or Hagg maybe fill that slot.
- J35Bacher

I wouldn't go after Green if I didn't already move Streit first.

Coburn/Green would be a much nicer 'top-pair'.

Depends on who the contender is, but overall I think I agree. I would like to start bouncing around which teams could use Timonen as that final push piece.

A team that has the prospect and or pick depth to take the shot. There HAVE to be some of those teams who fit that bill.
- MBFlyerfan

Not sure what their picks/prospects situation is but Anaheim, Chicago and Tampa all immediately come to mind.

Not sure what your saying.

Do you mean if there are cheaper options why would a team give you anything?
- J35Bacher

You have an asset, AMac, who is making $5M per year.

You can obtain another asset who can provide AMac's service for less than $5M per year.

So, why not get an asset (pick/prospect/etc) of any sort for AMac, and obtain the other asset that can fill his job for cheaper? It's like adding a pick/prospect while spending less money for the same service.

Niskanen got 7 years at $5.75m. I can't see Green settling for anything less.

You have an asset, AMac, who is making $5M per year.

You can obtain another asset who can provide AMac's service for less than $5M per year.

So, why not get an asset (pick/prospect/etc) of any sort for AMac, and obtain the other asset that can fill his job for cheaper? It's like adding a pick/prospect while spending less money for the same service.
- jmatchett383

Ok. Got it.

I mean the pick is still an unknown compared to you know what MacDonald is. Also you aren't garunteed to get the FA.

I don't know. I am not a huge MacDonald fan but I don't want to just throw him out for say a 7th rounder just to move him because he is still an NHL defensman.

Hope I explained how I feel. I am terribly slow today.

No chance. Teams around the NHL horde defensemen. There would be multiple claims on him.
- bmeltzer

I just disagree. The guys a veteran player who has been scratched multiple times. UFA would yield many comparable players that would provide his services for half the money or less. If his deal was expiring.....maybe.

I think Green is a bad option. Especially for the price tag he will likely have. He is not the same player he was say 4-5 years ago.

Niskanen got 7 years at $5.75m. I can't see Green settling for anything less.
- Feanor

But wasn't he coming off his best season? That always plays a factor in contract payment. Plus FA dmen are hard to come across in recent years

WHAT????!!!!!!
- GOA88

I wont go elite, but at even strength he was up near the top in both points and blocked shots. Those are the facts.

I think Green is a bad option. Especially for the price tag he will likely have. He is not the same player he was say 4-5 years ago.
- GOA88

i'd stay away from him personally

Niskanen got 7 years at $5.75m. I can't see Green settling for anything less.
- Feanor

I'm thinking they might have a shot at Green (or any UFA) to take a shorter deal if they up the cap-hit, and make as much of the contract paid out in signing bonuses as they can.

I wont go elite, but at even strength he was up near the top in both points and blocked shots. Those are the facts.
- MBFlyerfan

He was "good" when paired with Pronger....Without Prongs....Average.

Go ask the Lightning fans how they feel about Carle....They dont like him either.

Ok. Got it.

I mean the pick is still an unknown compared to you know what MacDonald is. Also you aren't garunteed to get the FA.

I don't know. I am not a huge MacDonald fan but I don't want to just throw him out for say a 7th rounder just to move him because he is still an NHL defensman.

Hope I explained how I feel. I am terribly slow today.
- J35Bacher

That's fine. I assumed you were getting the FA the way that you put it, so I figured if you can add an asset and spend less without losing any performance, then why not do it.

You have an asset, AMac, who is making $5M per year.

You can obtain another asset who can provide AMac's service for less than $5M per year.

So, why not get an asset (pick/prospect/etc) of any sort for AMac, and obtain the other asset that can fill his job for cheaper? It's like adding a pick/prospect while spending less money for the same service.
- jmatchett383

Problem is I cant see anyone wanting Amac.

I wont go elite, but at even strength he was up near the top in both points and blocked shots. Those are the facts.
- MBFlyerfan

My issue with him was that he wasn't physically strong enough to knock players off of pucks. He was, at times, a turnstile out there. He had a lot of strengths, but good players/teams could expose his weaknesses.

Problem is I cant see anyone wanting Amac.
- GOA88

I'm not debating that.

I'm thinking they might have a shot at Green (or any UFA) to take a shorter deal if they up the cap-hit, and make as much of the contract paid out in signing bonuses as they can.
- Tomahawk

I disagree. Most of these guys want the security of a long term deal. With the amount of sticks, pucks, skates and elbows flying around, every contract they sign could be their last.

My issue with him was that he wasn't physically strong enough to knock players off of pucks. He was, at times, a turnstile out there. He had a lot of strengths, but good players/teams could expose his weaknesses.
- jmatchett383

Well, that's the thing. Carle is another Robin.

We need more Batmans!

That's fine. I assumed you were getting the FA the way that you put it, so I figured if you can add an asset and spend less without losing any performance, then why not do it.
- jmatchett383

Yeah. I mean would you consider Del Zotto and upgrade on MacDonald? Right now I thnik for what Del Zotto is paid he is more valuable then what MacDonald is.


Also just a hypothetical but since Toronto seems like it wants to really move players. Would you do something like Vinny and MacDonald to Toronoto for Phaneuf? I actually like Phaneuf and think if you had a top pair of Phanuef and Coburn that it might make Coburn better. Yes I know I have no clue if Toronto would do that but was just thinking on how to upgrade the d

Well, that's the thing. Carle is another Robin.

We need more Batmans!
- MBFlyerfan

He was a very good, fairly effective Robin, though.