I agree, Hoffman looks to be a good 2nd line winger for the Sens moving forward. I could see him getting a 3 year deal around $2.5 -3.0 mill this summer.


If we can get Mitch Marner or Dylan Strome at #5 that would be nice..

I think Noah Hanifan goes #3 or #4 so '' Best player available'' would be these 1 of these two.

At this point Murray must be thinking SELL SELL at the TD to create a couple roster spots for more youth. Shane Prince, Matt Puemple Prob get a look. Maybe Lazar goes back to EDM to try and win another Memorial Cup.
- Erik6Karlsson5

I'm not really as excited about picks right now. I feel like Ottawa has a ton of prospects already. we always need to focus on picks and development but I feel like Ottawa needs a first line of top end star talent that we have been missing for a while

I'm not really as excited about picks right now. I feel like Ottawa has a ton of prospects already. we always need to focus on picks and development but I feel like (( Ottawa needs a first line of top end star talent that we have been missing for a while ))
- Maverick1818

The exciting part is that they will draft an elite talent if they can stay top 5 this summer

The exciting part is that they will draft an elite talent if they can stay top 5 this summer
- Erik6Karlsson5

that's not a guarantee lol

What we really need at this time is an elite team with no solid back up to lose their goalie for the rest of the year. Chicago, Rangers....Anderson would reap a huge benefit from these people if they see their goalie situation fall apart.

Hoffman is fun and exciting, but he is also small, inconsistent and not an elite talent. You can get away with a Patrick Kane or Krejci in your top 6 and contend, but only usually one of them and they need to score in the clutch. Moving Hoffman in a deal for a Kane might be viable, but only if you think Kane's 29 goals in his last 100 games is an aberration, and he will be scoring 35 or more in future years. Also wonder about a scrawny center like Turris long term, but he might be OK as a 2nd liner.

Lazar can be a valuable player as he develops, but maybe not worth as much in our system than a defense-first team like Boston. As long as Karlsson in a 30 minute player, there will be a need to score and keep the puck out of our end for long term success.

I think they could hit a home run if they decide to move Ryan. I know it is not a popular idea year. But it will be soon enough. Ryan with Tavares would be a huge add for the Islanders. The Islanders have great depth at center and some very good prospects.

Come this June there will be a bunch of teams trying to get under the cap. Goal scorers will be available at a discount rate. Think Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, LA and others will be in cap jail.

In any market you always want to sell high (assets) buy (low). I would also go after Kane right now. His age and game fits the development stage of the Sens.
- spatso

Spats, I luv ya buddy, but I respectdfully disagree with trading Ryan. He is Ottawa's most complete player right now. You dont trade him away, just because you can get a good return. The benefits of having him outweigh the potential return.

Now, if a team were to offer Murray another Yashin type deal, then I guess you have to consider it, but I dont see that happening.

As for Kane, I agree that Ottawa should be looking into this, but only if they dont have to sell the farm to get him. The risk is too high to pay market value for this asset right now.

I love seeing the compete in the guys - at least they are showing that it sucks to suck. I'd ratheer see that than complacency is playing out the string.

Trading Ryan and acquiring Kane is asinine.

Both are talented players. One is showing leadership to a young core and becoming a true team leader. The other cannot get a long with his teammates, is constantly a distraction and has a history of being a problem for his organization.

Who do you want in the organization, in the dressing room and on the ice?

Trading Ryan and acquiring Kane is asinine.

Both are talented players. One is showing leadership to a young core and becoming a true team leader. The other cannot get a long with his teammates, is constantly a distraction and has a history of being a problem for his organization.

Who do you want in the organization, in the dressing room and on the ice?
- HoweHatrick

if asinine means dumb, then I agree ......

i'm all for acquiring kane, but only if it's a "buy low" situation. i wouldn't give up anything close to "significant" assets to acquire him. the risk is too high, and to be perfectly honest, he hasn't been that good the last couple of years.

if the price is more than like a decent prospect and a 2nd rd pick (which i'm sure it will be) then it's not worth the risk.

all this Macarthur + hoffman/stone + prospect/pick talk is ridiculous........i probably wouldn't even trade macarthur straight up for him. mac has been the better player over the last 2 years, makes less money, and seems to be a great lockerroom guy and teammate. hoff and stone are both like top 5 in rookie scoring, would be stupid to move either one in a package for an underperforming lockerroom cancer with a big price tag.

They are going to get a very good pick. I think they will add a couple more picks, nice to see them land a first and another 2nd.

I think they could hit a home run if they decide to move Ryan. I know it is not a popular idea year. But it will be soon enough. Ryan with Tavares would be a huge add for the Islanders. The Islanders have great depth at center and some very good prospects.

Come this June there will be a bunch of teams trying to get under the cap. Goal scorers will be available at a discount rate. Think Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, LA and others will be in cap jail.

In any market you always want to sell high (assets) buy (low). I would also go after Kane right now. His age and game fits the development stage of the Sens.
- spatso

God, not this again Spatzo...

Just stop talking about trading Ryan.

The core of the team moving forward should be Karlsson, Ryan, Ceci, Zibanejad, Turris, Lehner, Lazar, Hoffman, Stone, Cowen and Lehner. And, it would be nice to keep Prince, Pageau, Puempel. All other players should be made available to trade.

They are going to get a very good pick. I think they will add a couple more picks, nice to see them land a first and another 2nd.

I think they could hit a home run if they decide to move Ryan. I know it is not a popular idea year. But it will be soon enough. Ryan with Tavares would be a huge add for the Islanders. The Islanders have great depth at center and some very good prospects.

Come this June there will be a bunch of teams trying to get under the cap. Goal scorers will be available at a discount rate. Think Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia, LA and others will be in cap jail.

In any market you always want to sell high (assets) buy (low). I would also go after Kane right now. His age and game fits the development stage of the Sens.
- spatso

So, I'm not takings shots here, but you spent a long time talking about trading Spezza. Now that he's gone, is it going to be Ryan for the next while?

I'm not really as excited about picks right now. I feel like Ottawa has a ton of prospects already. we always need to focus on picks and development but I feel like Ottawa needs a first line of top end star talent that we have been missing for a while
- Maverick1818

I'm in agreement that this team needs top end talent. But I personally feel that the draft is the way to go. This team is still lacking the center they need to compete, and I don't see them getting that anywhere but the draft. This draft is a big opportunity for that.

I agree, Hoffman looks to be a good 2nd line winger for the Sens moving forward. I could see him getting a 3 year deal around $2.5 -3.0 mill this summer.


If we can get Mitch Marner or Dylan Strome at #5 that would be nice..

I think Noah Hanifan goes #3 or #4 so '' Best player available'' would be these 1 of these two.

At this point Murray must be thinking SELL SELL at the TD to create a couple roster spots for more youth. Shane Prince, Matt Puemple Prob get a look. Maybe Lazar goes back to EDM to try and win another Memorial Cup.
- Erik6Karlsson5

Agreed, I think we'll continue to see improvement out of Zibanejad, Hoffman, Stone and Lazar.

I feel like Lazar could be a guy like that, but he could also be what he is now, a 15G 15A guy who can drive play. Here's hoping he finds more offensive upside.

I think the steal in this draft outside of the top 2 guys is Mitch Marner. He's being overlooked because of a perceived lack of size, but he has already had one growth spurt, and could still see more - similar to Nick Paul.

I'm a big advocate of taking talent in the draft, over size or two-way play. You can teach a guy a lot of things, but you can't teach talent - Mitch Marner has oodles of talent. He has vision, hands and agility that bigger guys like Strome and Crouse simply do not have, and IMO will be a superior player than either.

A future core of Marner, Zibanejad, Turris down the middle, and Ryan, Hoffman, MacArthur, Stone, Paul, Lazar on the wings could be a devastating top 9. Worst case, you swap out MacArthur for someone with more size when his current deal expires, and then you have a pretty even distribution of size among the lines.

I think the steal in this draft outside of the top 2 guys is Mitch Marner. He's being overlooked because of a perceived lack of size, but he has already had one growth spurt, and could still see more - similar to Nick Paul.


- TommyDeVito

i think the steal will be hannifin.......his game is compared to ryan suter. he's big, LH, fast, offensive upside, defensively solid, physical.

i want ottawa to get him SOOOOOOO bad.

i think the steal will be hannifin.......his game is compared to ryan suter. he's big, LH, fast, offensive upside, defensively solid, physical.

i want ottawa to get him SOOOOOOO bad.
- sensarmy_11

Where's he projected to be? If the sens drop down a bit i'd be down with getting a defenseman. It seems once you get out of the top spots any centers lose the likelihood of being #1's. (There are many exceptions I know.) Team doesn't really need another second line center.

Where's he projected to be? If the sens drop down a bit i'd be down with getting a defenseman. It seems once you get out of the top spots any centers lose the likelihood of being #1's. (There are many exceptions I know.) Team doesn't really need another second line center.
- david22

he's projected to go anywhere from 3rd to 5th

he's projected to go anywhere from 3rd to 5th
- sensarmy_11

Sens could definitely use a player like that

i think the steal will be hannifin.......his game is compared to ryan suter. he's big, LH, fast, offensive upside, defensively solid, physical.

i want ottawa to get him SOOOOOOO bad.
- sensarmy_11

Me too .Thinking BM will move a defenseman,like cowen .Sign Methot ,Trade for a first line forward ,and draft one of the stud defensemen available in this draft

Me too .Thinking BM will move a defenseman,like cowen .Sign Methot ,Trade for a first line forward ,and draft one the stud defensemen available in this draft

- top shelf 15

Even stud defensemen take years to be impact players most of the time. Doughty, Jones, Karlsson, Ekblad are the exception.

Typically only one of those guys per year, and this year it is probably Hanafin. If we miss him, I don't think there's any point taking another defenseman. We've waited long enough for the guys we have to develop, last thing we need is another rookie D struggling back there. We need veteran leadership that can still play, we need to replace Phillips with a value signing and if Methot goes, we need to replace him as well.

I'd rather get one of McD, Eichel, Marner or Strome.

Even stud defensemen take years to be impact players most of the time. Doughty, Jones, Karlsson, Ekblad are the exception.

Typically only one of those guys per year, and this year it is probably Hanafin. If we miss him, I don't think there's any point taking another defenseman. We've waited long enough for the guys we have to develop, last thing we need is another rookie D struggling back there. We need veteran leadership that can still play, we need to replace Phillips with a value signing and if Methot goes, we need to replace him as well.

I'd rather get one of McD, Eichel, Marner or Strome.
- TommyDeVito

I think hannifin is virutally a lock to be an impact NHL player next year....and i also think there's a good chance that kylington and werenski could be also.

Do not agree with this. I know we all love him and have hyped him to death, but Lazar has done nothing to show he belongs in a top 6.

With each passing game I watch him, I think more and more he's destined to be a great third liner.
- TommyDeVito

Are you kidding me? He's a junior player that's gone straight to the NHL (without one game in the AHL). His game is defensive first, how can you expect him to score? I bet you think Dustin Brown isn't a top 6 forward? Look at his first 30 something games.... (Curtis Lazar = Dustin Brown)

No way should the Sens draft a Dman -- I'm not a fan of drafting D-men in the top spots. Unless your a sweed that can skate like the wing (kylington) or a Canadian right handed big slap shot that can skate.... no thanks. Call me crazy but if I'm up at 3rd I'm taking Strome, MM over Hanifin. Too many flops in the first round for my taste. I may be wrong about Hanifin but unless Methot doesn't resign I'd very very hesitant.

2004 draft: 1. Ovechkin 2. Malkin 3. Cam Barker... (cricket)
2005 draft: 1. Crosby 2. Ryan 3. Jack Johnson (not bad; not amazing)
2006 draft: 1. Erik Johnson 2. Eric Staal 3. Toews 4. Backstrom 5. Kessel
2007 draft: 1. P. Kane 2. JVR 3. Turris 4. Hickey (oh the pain) 5. Alzner

The 2008 draft was a wave of D-men after Stamkos. In the top 20 there were plenty but after Doughty it's tough to pick in the 3rd spot (Bogosian was taken ahead of Pietrangelo). Those are solid D-men but it's more of a risk imo
EDIT: ofcourse if Methot is not signed... that may mean Sens HAVE to get one

I'm in agreement that this team needs top end talent. But I personally feel that the draft is the way to go. This team is still lacking the center they need to compete, and I don't see them getting that anywhere but the draft. This draft is a big opportunity for that.
- david22

DYLAN STROME..

Jeeezz. We watch this team loose how many one goal games, watch a power play that struggles to set up any momentum, and see every faceoff lost in the final minute of games and we are going to draft a defencemen? Let get real guys. A d-man would be nice, but is not a priority. This team needs a true #1 centre. There are about 10 quality guys available this draft. Not all will be franchise guys, that's the Sens job to pick the right guy.

I'm ok with Karlsson, Ceci, and Cowen going forward. If we can resign Methot, we should be good defence wise for awhile. We need better 5/6 guys. Do that via free agency or trade.

Only way for us to get a prime time centre is through the draft. I hope we aren't picking early in 2016, so may as well take advantage this year.

i think the steal will be hannifin.......his game is compared to ryan suter. he's big, LH, fast, offensive upside, defensively solid, physical.

i want ottawa to get him SOOOOOOO bad.
- sensarmy_11

This ^^^

He would be the ideal partner for EK65 moving forward..

Hanifan - EK65
Cowen - Ceci

If Strome and Marner go before him then the Sens could grab him at #5.

Jeeezz. We watch this team loose how many one goal games, watch a power play that struggles to set up any momentum, and see every faceoff lost in the final minute of games and we are going to draft a defencemen? Let get real guys. A d-man would be nice, but is not a priority. This team needs a true #1 centre. There are about 10 quality guys available this draft. Not all will be franchise guys, that's the Sens job to pick the right guy.

I'm ok with Karlsson, Ceci, and Cowen going forward. If we can resign Methot, we should be good defence wise for awhile. We need better 5/6 guys. Do that via free agency or trade.

Only way for us to get a prime time centre is through the draft. I hope we aren't picking early in 2016, so may as well take advantage this year.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I agree for the most part. As i mentioned above though, if they drop down, the odds of drafting a #1C drop a lot. Drafting another 2nd line center isn't really going to help this team too much.