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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 20 @ 3:36 PM ET
I don't blame him for being upset. I also don't blame Berube for scratching him.
- bmeltzer


Succinct and accurate
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 20 @ 3:37 PM ET
Succinct and accurate
- AllInForFlyers


I blame AMac.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 20 @ 3:39 PM ET
Berube looks desperate.
- hereticpride


Pissing away points like they have, failing to get two points against Buffalo at home...time's gone for guys to get their acts together.

Craig Berube may not be Scotty Bowman, but it was time to move some pieces around and while I would not have inserted Zac Rinaldo into the lineup, everyone likely knew that it was going to happen at some point

I agree with the other changes, and I think Couturier-Voracek might be a really good thing
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Feb 20 @ 3:40 PM ET
I blame AMac.
- 77rams


Schenn being scratched is overdue, for my money
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:41 PM ET
FINALLY THAT DUNCE BERUBE SPLITS UP G AND JAKE. As sad as it is to see, it just had to happen. EVERY team in the league learned how to shut those two down.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 20 @ 3:42 PM ET
Berube looks desperate.
- hereticpride


benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:44 PM ET
I love seeing make a wish foundation things like this. And other charity stuff. Jake V is a good guy.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM ET
Schenn being scratched is overdue, for my money
- AllInForFlyers


He will be back in there in due time. A few losses in a row, or when another dman totally poops his drawers. The Berube way of doing things!
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM ET
Pissing away points like they have, failing to get two points against Buffalo at home...time's gone for guys to get their acts together.

Craig Berube may not be Scotty Bowman, but it was time to move some pieces around and while I would not have inserted Zac Rinaldo into the lineup, everyone likely knew that it was going to happen at some point

I agree with the other changes, and I think Couturier-Voracek might be a really good thing

- AllInForFlyers



J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 20 @ 3:45 PM ET
all good points. That's the chance you take. just because other teams haven't moved doesn't mean you wait though.

Though realistically looking at the flyers dman who much more is their value going to really increase? I don't think much if any at all. None of the flyers guys are difference makers where a GM will overpay imo. At least overpay enough to make you want to wait. Is there a chance they could get desperate sure. I would just rather do the deal now if that is what hextalls intention is; more things could go wrong than right with the flyers luck!!!!
I am also slightly convinced that hextall doesn't want to move Coburn or grossman.

- rinaldo



Value is what another team thinks is value. Nashville picked up Franson. They were already playing well but now they bolstered their team for the playoffs. They also took a piece away from teams like LA, Anaheim and others in the west. If LA gets Yandle or Petry or Sekerja, now maybe Anaheims thinks they need someone like oburn and pay more because they know maybe SJ or Vancouver has interest in him.

Yes thi8ngs can go wrong and I could be totally wrong. But I think waiting would allow you to maybe get teams to get despereate if they miss on getting a piece they wanted.
wbon22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.21.2008

Feb 20 @ 3:56 PM ET
The change in the top two lines really pretty logical. Jake has played well with Cooter and Read and that line was even more effective over a longer period of time. Not as a pure offensive threat, but as a two way threat. This could actually be what is needed to get all three of these players going.

Giving G both Raffl and Simmonds is interesting. Both are fast and strong on the puck and are capable of creating space. That is the one thing that G has not been able to have much of at all since the All Star break.

IMHO I do not understand dressing Rinaldo. I don't care if Vinny is playing like a dead horse or if you only have 11 forwards. Rinaldo is not an NHL player and should not be occupying space on the roster.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 3:58 PM ET
So upcoming games against Nashville and Washington .... makes sense to insiert # 36 back in the line up. Neither of those teams have PP weapons that will hurt us when he takes a dumb penalty or two. #sarcasm
- PhiFaninEdm


I plan on booing him mercilessly from row 15 of the upper bowl if he ever touches the puck.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Feb 20 @ 4:03 PM ET
I plan on booing him mercilessly from row 15 of the upper bowl if he ever touches the puck.
- jmatchett383


PLEASE do. Guys an effing scrub
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Feb 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
Value is what another team thinks is value. Nashville picked up Franson. They were already playing well but now they bolstered their team for the playoffs. They also took a piece away from teams like LA, Anaheim and others in the west. If LA gets Yandle or Petry or Sekerja, now maybe Anaheims thinks they need someone like oburn and pay more because they know maybe SJ or Vancouver has interest in him.

Yes thi8ngs can go wrong and I could be totally wrong. But I think waiting would allow you to maybe get teams to get despereate if they miss on getting a piece they wanted.

- J35Bacher

again I don't think anyone on the flyers d corps will entice a GM to overpay. those guys you named are better than that the flyers have to offer. Time will tell.

Nashville didn't overpay imo. they are going for a cup run. a late first isn't much.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:04 PM ET
PLEASE do. Guys an effing scrub
- benjichronic


As a Flyers' fan, I am embarrassed that he is on the roster.
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 20 @ 4:05 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Berube Shakes Up Lineup
- bmeltzer


ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Feb 20 @ 4:09 PM ET
"Berube said that Rinaldo, who completed an eight-game NHL suspension and then sat out the last two games as a healthy scratch, has an opportunity to use his speed and aggressiveness against Nashville. The coach added, however, that Rinaldo has to understand that hits like the one on Kris Letang that got him suspended are not good hockey plays and can't happen"

When Berube spews this nonsense, does anyone laugh, or question this garbage?

The only reason why Rinaldo is playing is because Lecavalier is a complete waste of time. A one dimensional offensive player who has now gone a mind numbing 19 consecutive games without a goal.

The amount of dead wood on this roster is stupefying.

- PLindbergh31



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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:09 PM ET
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- ggunky


You lose 40 points for posting a Disturbed video.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Feb 20 @ 4:11 PM ET
again I don't think anyone on the flyers d corps will entice a GM to overpay. those guys you named are better than that the flyers have to offer. Time will tell.

Nashville didn't overpay imo. they are going for a cup run. a late first isn't much.

- rinaldo


Yandle is, for sure. I think it's hard to argue that Petry is much better than anything the Flyers have. He is a solid defenseman but I wouldn't say he is more valuable than Coburn, MDZ or Streit. But they do serve different roles so I guess it's hard to say what teams would be willing to pay for him. Plus Petry is injured so he might not get traded at all at this point
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Feb 20 @ 4:12 PM ET
again I don't think anyone on the flyers d corps will entice a GM to overpay. those guys you named are better than that the flyers have to offer. Time will tell.

Nashville didn't overpay imo. they are going for a cup run. a late first isn't much.

- rinaldo


Nashville got those two guys for a STEAL. A first, a prospect I've never heard of, and olli jokinen? for a guy who on most teams could fill a #1 d spot? and a solid 3rd line player whose having his best year? Nashville made way like bandits on that deal I personally think.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Feb 20 @ 4:12 PM ET
You lose 40 points for posting a Disturbed video.
- jmatchett383



Sorry, next time I will post a Nickelback video!



vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 20 @ 4:13 PM ET
could someone please shake Berube
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:14 PM ET
Can someone explain how "Byfuglien" is pronounced "Buff-lin" and not "By-fug-lee-en? The letters aren't even in the right spot, not to mention the excessive letters.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 20 @ 4:14 PM ET
Nashville got those two guys for a STEAL. A first, a prospect I've never heard of, and olli jokinen? for a guy who on most teams could fill a #1 d spot? and a solid 3rd line player whose having his best year? Nashville made way like bandits on that deal I personally think.
- benjichronic

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 20 @ 4:14 PM ET
Sorry, next time I will post a Nickelback video!


- ggunky


You watch your tone, or I'll make you skate at Flyers practice with Rinaldo.
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