I think we'll win the HOME game in Buffalo and Lose the Arizona game on the road. Which will leave us with 3pts of bull crap Ted Nolan to find a way to get those pts, I really thought Arizona would have fallen on a pt or two by now, this is disgusting!

I hate this year!

P.S. I really think people have forgotten or underestimate SAMSON REINHART!

I watched him LEAD team CANADA with McDavid under him, and people are saying that they don't know whether SAMSON will be a quality 1st line Centerman????

He isn't CROSBY, McDAVID or Echel but he is VERY, VERY GOOD and will probably become an ELITE Centermen in the NHL with average 25goals55Assists Per year!
- MEBSabresFAN

wow. 80 points a year? You do know that is what the top 3 scorers in the NHL get a year. Ya I don't think he's gonna be that. He's not even that in juniors

The problem is that in order to be a championship team in this league, you need two very good to great centers, and one of them has to be even better than Reinhart projects to be. It simply takes at least that much in today's league.
- buffalofan19

Why do u say that?
Chicago & Boston didn't fit that mold
I guess LA does, but they won their Cups more bc of Quick & good defense then they did Jeff Carter. Heck, for the 1st one their #2 center was actually a pretty average Mike Richards & Carter played on the wing.

Don't get me wrong,
I want McDavid or Eichel...
But assuming Reinhart works out & becomes a "#1" we should be fine.
Girgensons looks like he can be a 2c, heck, even Larsson does. And while I don't see Grigorenko in the Sabres future plans, I think he'll be part of a trade that gets us a pretty good player.

wow. 80 points a year? You do know that is what the top 3 scorers in the NHL get a year. Ya I don't think he's gonna be that. He's not even that in juniors
- Fattony1187

He's got ppg potential BC he's so smart & such a good passer that he'll rack up assists. I don't expect all that right away, but I think he's gonna be a really good player for us.

I'm very interested to see if the Sabres put him in Rochester next season or if he makes the NHL.
Also, if he is with Buffalo, do they start him on the wing to ease him into things? Kinda like what the AVs have done with MacKinnon?
I think even Stamkos played on the wing a lot as a rookie if I remember right

wow. 80 points a year? You do know that is what the top 3 scorers in the NHL get a year. Ya I don't think he's gonna be that. He's not even that in juniors
- Fattony1187

Um what?

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=132239

Reinhart's production. This year is down because he was told to work on other things besides producing. Last year juniors 105 points.

I know facts have no place here.

See Toews, Jonathan

Why do u say that?
Chicago & Boston didn't fit that mold
I guess LA does, but they won their Cups more bc of Quick & good defense then they did Jeff Carter. Heck, for the 1st one their #2 center was actually a pretty average Mike Richards & Carter played on the wing.

Don't get me wrong,
I want McDavid or Eichel...
But assuming Reinhart works out & becomes a "#1" we should be fine.
Girgensons looks like he can be a 2c, heck, even Larsson does. And while I don't see Grigorenko in the Sabres future plans, I think he'll be part of a trade that gets us a pretty good player.
- jdfitz77

Eh Chicago had toews and sharp as their top two guys for their first cup before he moved to wing. We have no one on this roster near toews plus they had kane who although is not a center is a top 5 player in the league. So no maybe you don't need two elite centers but you better have some elite players everywhere else. LA had kopitar and Richards when he was still good along with the best defenseman in the league in the playoffs and best goalie. We don't have near that talent either

Um what?

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...s/pdisplay.php?pid=132239

Reinhart's production. This year is down because he was told to work on other things besides producing. Last year juniors 105 points.

I know facts have no place here.

See Toews, Jonathan
- Stripes77

Um what? I said top 3. Look at all the leagues, he was not a top 3 scorer. I know facts have no place here

Um what? I said top 3. Look at all the leagues, he was not a top 3 scorer. I know facts have no place here

- Fattony1187

Why do u say that?
Chicago & Boston didn't fit that mold
I guess LA does, but they won their Cups more bc of Quick & good defense then they did Jeff Carter. Heck, for the 1st one their #2 center was actually a pretty average Mike Richards & Carter played on the wing.

Don't get me wrong,
I want McDavid or Eichel...
But assuming Reinhart works out & becomes a "#1" we should be fine.
Girgensons looks like he can be a 2c, heck, even Larsson does. And while I don't see Grigorenko in the Sabres future plans, I think he'll be part of a trade that gets us a pretty good player.
- jdfitz77

I stand by this. With Reinhart as a # 1 center, this team becomes a good one. With Reinhart as a #2 center, this team becomes a great one. After the disaster that has been the last three years (or more depending on who you talk to), to me, only the latter is acceptable.

Eh Chicago had toews and sharp as their top two guys for their first cup before he moved to wing. We have no one on this roster near toews plus they had kane who although is not a center is a top 5 player in the league. So no maybe you don't need two elite centers but you better have some elite players everywhere else. LA had kopitar and Richards when he was still good along with the best defenseman in the league in the playoffs and best goalie. We don't have near that talent either
- Fattony1187

I think Bolland & Handzus were Chicago's other centers for the Cup run you're talking about. Pretty Sharp was on the wing.
But I get your point.
We very well could get our version of patty Kane in Marner if we miss out on a top2 pick.
And although goalie is still a major question mark, I expect Murray to address that this summer. He's made comments about how he's talked to several teams about young goalies that are either backups now or splitting time, and how he'll revisit those discussions in the offseason.
I'm not worried about our defense either. It's shaping up to be very good IMO.

Um what? I said top 3. Look at all the leagues, he was not a top 3 scorer. I know facts have no place here

- Fattony1187

wow. 80 points a year? You do know that is what the top 3 scorers in the NHL get a year. Ya I don't think he's gonna be that. He's not even that in juniors

You never mentioned in all the leagues he wasn't a top 3 scorer.

Look at the world juniors he was tied for the leading scorer and carried Canada

Also look at 2013-2014 season...He was 4th in the league in scoring playing in 12 less games...on a crappy team that he carried but whatever you wanna say cause ppg he lead the league (he missed time because he was playing for team Canada)

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717
Nolan said Ennis showed up sick and they sent him back to the hotel. He hopes he can play. D'Amigo is getting a MRI on his face and is out.

I stand by this. With Reinhart as a # 1 center, this team becomes a good one. With Reinhart as a #2 center, this team becomes a great one. After the disaster that has been the last three years (or more depending on who you talk to), to me, only the latter is acceptable.
- buffalofan19

I pretty much agree with you...
But getting the 3rd pick this year is pretty much like getting the 1st any other year. We'll still get a very good player.

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717
Nolan said Ennis showed up sick and they sent him back to the hotel. He hopes he can play. D'Amigo is getting a MRI on his face and is out.
- metzeric

I pretty much agree with you...
But getting the 3rd pick this year is pretty much like getting the 1st any other year. We'll still get a very good player.
- jdfitz77

I think if the Sabres are picking 3rd they move down a bit to someone who wants Hannifin. Nothing lower than 7. I'm looking at Carolina perhaps..Skinner and 7th overall (or wherever they pick) for 3rd overall and a 2nd?

Paul Hamilton ‏@pham1717
Nolan said Ennis showed up sick and they sent him back to the hotel. He hopes he can play. D'Amigo is getting a MRI on his face and is out.
- metzeric

I wouldn't hate it if Ennis missed the Arizona games!

Do the think the NHL awards his contract back to NJ NJ or do they have exclusive rights to him?

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...on--report-144816069.html

If not offer 7/50MM

I think if the Sabres are picking 3rd they move down a bit to someone who wants Hannifin. Nothing lower than 7. I'm looking at Carolina perhaps..Skinner and 7th overall for 3rd overall and a 2nd?
- Stripes77

I could see something like tht happen.
Idk if Murray would move down that far, but I guess that depends on what's being offered & where he thinks he can get his guy at.
Worst case...
We take Hanifin & have a pretty amazing defense for the next 10+ years...
That's still A LOT of time to find a couple more good forwards

Do the think the NHL awards his contract back to NJ NJ or do they have exclusive rights to him?

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...on--report-144816069.html

If not offer 7/50MM
- ImThatGuy

Mm... I say blackball him for jumping ship. Send a message to future players that if you want to play in the KHL it's for keeps and don't come crying to us when their economy tanks.

I pretty much agree with you...
But getting the 3rd pick this year is pretty much like getting the 1st any other year. We'll still get a very good player.
- jdfitz77

Drafting 3rd we will get a good player. The bad thing is It's gonna suck watching us be a bottom 3 team again next year and not hope we have a mcheichel prize at the end of the tunnel. Whoever we draft at 3 isn't going to be on the team next year. with Reinhart possibly in the roc again we will have kane but the team won't be drastically different. poor free agent class too. Maybe a trade here or there but no point in selling the farm when most of our core isn't ready yet. it's one of the reasons why mceichel is so important, we can start to build to a contender as early as next season. Without them it's just another year towards the rebuild

Drafting 3rd we will get a good player. The bad thing is It's gonna suck watching us be a bottom 3 team again next year and not hope we have a mcheichel prize at the end of the tunnel. Whoever we draft at 3 isn't going to be on the team next year. with Reinhart possibly in the roc again we will have kane but the team won't be drastically different. poor free agent class too. Maybe a trade here or there but no point in selling the farm when most of our core isn't ready yet. it's one of the reasons why mceichel is so important, we can start to build to a contender as early as next season. Without them it's just another year towards the rebuild
- Fattony1187

We are also going to have another top 6 forward on this roster. Murray is going to trade that second pick in rd 1 for a top 6 winger.

Do the think the NHL awards his contract back to NJ NJ or do they have exclusive rights to him?

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...on--report-144816069.html

If not offer 7/50MM
- ImThatGuy

He would need approval from all 30 NHL teams to come back. I don't know if the Devils would still hold his rights or not though

Do the think the NHL awards his contract back to NJ NJ or do they have exclusive rights to him?

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...on--report-144816069.html

If not offer 7/50MM
- ImThatGuy

Hard to say...
This is a pretty unique situation.

That contract offer is way too much though. Well, not too much, too long. I'd do 3-4years max.

Hard to say...
This is a pretty unique situation.

That contract offer is way too much though. Well, not too much, too long. I'd do 3-4years max.
- jdfitz77

If they were to award NJ the contract back, do they void years, or do they count against the cap, and also count towards recapture? So many questions!


He's what 31 now. Cant see him taking any less than 5 years.

Hard to say...
This is a pretty unique situation.

That contract offer is way too much though. Well, not too much, too long. I'd do 3-4years max.
- jdfitz77

3-4 years max is about right. He can produce that's for sure. Imagine a line with McEichel centering Kane and him...that's dare I say it a true 1st scoring line in the NHL something the Sabres haven't really had in a long time.

He's what 31 now. Cant see him taking any less than 5 years.
- ImThatGuy

He made his bed, let him lie in it. We have enough world class talent on this continent alone. Don't need Russia's help. Besides the KHL is infamous for their shady tactics to procure talent.