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Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:55 PM ET
My god we'll never hear the end of this Myers sh!t. Every time he scores
- twistedwrister9

Mmhmm. Good thing Stafford is a UFA. He has 4 goals and 4 assists in his last 6 games.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:56 PM ET
My god we'll never hear the end of this Myers sh!t. Every time he scores

They got the dman they wanted/needed and so did we.

- twistedwrister9



Bogosian is out and wait till Kane starts scoring. Plus Winnipeg will no longer have Stafford, who has been decent for them.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Mar 23 @ 11:58 PM ET
Bogosian is out and wait till Kane starts scoring. Plus Winnipeg will no longer have Stafford, who has been decent for them.
- Buffalo-Sabres

He's been more than decent. You could argue he has been more valuable than Myers.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 23 @ 11:58 PM ET
My god we'll never hear the end of this Myers sh!t. Every time he scores

They got the dman they wanted/needed and so did we.

- twistedwrister9

Stafford is on pace to obliterate Kanes numbers this year too by the way.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:00 AM ET
He's been more than decent. You could argue he has been more valuable than Myers.
- Pierceme69

myers has been dominant tonight
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:01 AM ET
Stafford is on pace to obliterate Kanes numbers this year too by the way.
- sbroads24



What are the #'s?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:01 AM ET
myers has been dominant tonight
- Ihateallofu

The two ain't even close
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:01 AM ET
myers has been dominant tonight
- Ihateallofu

I only watched the 3rd period, but he didn't look all that special to me. Took another dumb penalty on Nuge.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:03 AM ET
I only watched the 3rd period, but he didn't look all that special to me. Took another dumb penalty on Nuge.
- Pierceme69

hes been a rock all night. we have no answer for his size and cant beat him.

myers, trouba, and a healthy byfuglien is a gnarly trio
twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 24 @ 12:03 AM ET
Stafford is on pace to obliterate Kanes numbers this year too by the way.
- sbroads24


I dont make it a point to cry, piss & moan about guys who no longer play for my team. ... especially UFAs that could've been dealt anywhere and done well. Staff was done here who cares.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:03 AM ET
What are the #'s?
- Buffalo-Sabres

17 games 7 goals 7 assists

Kane 37 games 10 goals 12 assists

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:04 AM ET
hes been a rock all night. we have no answer for his size and cant beat him.

myers, trouba, and a healthy byfuglien is a gnarly trio

- Ihateallofu

But Bogosian is tough or something
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:05 AM ET
17 games 7 goals 7 assists

Kane 37 games 10 goals 12 assists

- sbroads24

If Stafford had Kane's shoulder injury he would have sat out all season playing Guitar Hero.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:06 AM ET
hes been a rock all night. we have no answer for his size and cant beat him.

myers, trouba, and a healthy byfuglien is a gnarly trio

- Ihateallofu

Add in Josh Morrissey
twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 24 @ 12:06 AM ET
17 games 7 goals 7 assists

Kane 37 games 10 goals 12 assists

- sbroads24


Yea. ... We've all seen Stafford go on those steaks. Eh... He'd come back to earth.

It's not as if Kane wasn't gutting it out all year with injuries.

twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 24 @ 12:09 AM ET
If Stafford had Kane's shoulder injury he would have sat out all season playing Guitar Hero.
- Pierceme69


I can't believe we're even discussing Stafford' s relevance. Besides we've seen this before from him. If I recall it was right around the time he was about to be paid last right.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:09 AM ET
Yea. ... We've all seen Stafford go on those steaks. Eh... He'd come back to earth.

It's not as if Kane wasn't gutting it out all year with injuries.

- twistedwrister9

Kane 2013 19 goals 41 points in 63 games.

Good absolutely, great not even close.

I really wish we got less of a risk here.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
Value able player ++++ is the problem.

It's almost laughable at this point to call Myers and Bogosian a wash.

Myers is playing better than Bogosian ever did in Winnipeg

- sbroads24



Doesn't matter...
What matters is how Bogosian plays for US
Much more physical & better in his own end than Myers. And that means A LOT come playoff time
I wish Myers all the success in the World. Same to Stafford. I'll be cheering for the Jets in the playoffs...

But none of this chanter means anything anymore
The deal is done, and for good or bad, it is what it is.
I still like the deal,
But time will tell
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
I can't believe we're even discussing Stafford' s relevance. Besides we've seen this before from him. If I recall it was right around the time he was about to be paid last right.
- twistedwrister9

It was also coincidentally the last time he was on a true playoff team, but you can go with your narrative if you want.

Kane>>Stafford

But who's to say they don't resign him ? He could be a 2nd line 20 goal guy for 3-4 years.

So then it's a top 2 defensemen, plus a top 6 forward plus a 1st and 2 prospects.
twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 24 @ 12:15 AM ET
Kane 2013 19 goals 41 points in 63 games.

Good absolutely, great not even close.

I really wish we got less of a risk here.

- sbroads24


I won't deny that we've incurred some risk in this deal but so did Winnipeg. It had been a long time since the real Tyler Myers stood up here. He is for them and that's great. Both teams are supposed to get what they need in a trade. They aren't supposed to be one sided. We unfortunately have to wait until be next year to see if the our side does as well. I'm perfectly happy to have a defensive dman with snarl and some offensive ability in Bogo. Ristolainen is more than capable to bring the offense from the back end. Zadorov has that ability as well.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
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- SabresFaninIndiana



Fixed.........
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 24 @ 12:21 AM ET
I won't deny that we've incurred some risk in this deal but so did Winnipeg. It had been a long time since the real Tyler Myers stood up here. He is for them and that's great. Both teams are supposed to get what they need in a trade. They aren't supposed to be one sided. We unfortunately have to wait until be next year to see if the our side does as well. I'm perfectly happy to have a defensive dman with snarl and some offensive ability in Bogo. Ristolainen is more than capable to bring the offense from the back end. Zadorov has that ability as well.
- twistedwrister9

While I agree Risto and Zadorov are capable, we have yet to see it consistently. Who's to say they won't have serious hiccups.

In the past calendar year we have seen

Myers gone
Ehrhoff bought out
McNabb gone
Pysyk have a mysterious illness

The blue line is looking a lot thinner right now
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 24 @ 12:21 AM ET
It was also coincidentally the last time he was on a true playoff team, but you can go with your narrative if you want.

Kane>>Stafford

But who's to say they don't resign him ? He could be a 2nd line 20 goal guy for 3-4 years.

So then it's a top 2 defensemen, plus a top 6 forward plus a 1st and 2 prospects.

- sbroads24


You have to learn to "put the woman down."


Two Buddhist Monks were on a journey, one was a senior monk, the other a junior monk. During their journey they approached a raging river and on the river bank stood a young lady. She was clearly concerned about how she would get to the other side of the river without drowning.

The junior monk walked straight past her without giving it a thought and he crossed the river. The senior monk picked up the woman and carried her across the river. He placed her down, they parted ways with the woman and on they went with the journey.

As the journey went on, the senior monk could see some concern on the junior monk's mind, he asked what was wrong. The junior monk replied, "how could you carry her like that? You know we can't touch women, it's against our way of life". The senior monk answered, "I left the woman at the rivers edge a long way back, why are you still carrying her?"
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Mar 24 @ 12:27 AM ET
3 more years . a few of our youngins could be stars.
- cabin



Not according to some in here.

They'll mostly all be busts.

What a joke.

I can't wait to see how many people on here have strokes if we don't get one of the "saviors".
twistedwrister9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.10.2011

Mar 24 @ 12:27 AM ET
While I agree Risto and Zadorov are capable, we have yet to see it consistently. Who's to say they won't have serious hiccups.

In the past calendar year we have seen

Myers gone
Ehrhoff bought out
McNabb gone
Pysyk have a mysterious illness

The blue line is looking a lot thinner right now

- sbroads24


So they haven't done it consistently(Risto & Zads) and what's to say they don't have hiccups. Sounds alot like describing Tyler Myers here

Risto/Zads
Bogosian/Gorges
Pysyk/McCabe
Ruhwedel


Brycen Martin also appears to be a solid prospect.

Doesn't scream the cupboard is bare.
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