Does anyone know why Anthony Richard is rated so low by Central Scouting? He put up 43 goals and 48 assists for Val-d'Or this year and is rated 103 out of North American skaters.
- aflyerpower8

He's 5'9" 160 and putting up numbers in a league that often has more inflated point totals than the other two major junior leagues. Also the fact that this is regarded as a fairly deep draft have pushed him down a bit. He'd be a really good mid round selection

Weird play. From that view the puck has to go in based on where you see it come out behind the net.
- opeth_pa

Unless it goes over the net, which is impossible to tell from the angle.

He's 5'9" 160 and putting up numbers in a league that often has more inflated point totals than the other two major junior leagues. Also the fact that this is regarded as a fairly deep draft have pushed him down a bit. He'd be a really good mid round selection
- Jsaquella

Johnny Gaudreau part deux?

I don't believe Manning or Gudas replaces what neither Grossmann or Schenn bring. Even with Manning and Gudas making the team next season, Manning is still pretty new to the NHL and Gudas spends a lot of time in the box. I find that both Grossmann and Schenn bring the same thing of what's nessassary, just as long as at least one is on the roster. Shot blocking and physical play on the back end. Manning and Gudas do not hit guys like Grossmann and Schenn do. I'd be looking to move MacDonald 100% and only one of Grossmann or Schenn, most likely Grossmann due to health and age. I'm also not convinced one of Manning or Gudas will be a 7th defenseman next season, possible Schultz too. Schultz originally signed here as a 7th defenseman, he's 32 and I think his play could drift in either direction beyond this season. I really don't have a high expectation for Nick Shultz.
- SuperSchennBros

Gudas does hit guys and is very physical. Manning is more mobile than either Grossman ( who is very slow) and Schenn. I must admit, I have not seen a lot of Manningbut from what I have seen he can't do the job any worse than 8 or 22. Manning' s AHL stats are very good and he does have a lot of Pim's.. So I am sure he can bring toughness. Luke is just too inconsistent and it is time for Flyers to move on after getting ripped off in that deal

someone ahead of me mentioned the salaries being a factor, I would also like to add that the Grossmann and possibly L. Schenn are not in the future plans of the Flyers. I'd rather them take a chance on a young defenseman on a cheap deal, ala Del Zotto, than have over inflated salaries for veterans.
- KGBflyers10

That salaries are a factor, but so are the players. Grossmann is subpar with the puck. We saw it several times over the weekend, where he had the puck stolen off his stick or made a bad pass. The trouble is, Grossmann is also not playing especially well in his own end since returning from his last injury.

Schenn, IMO, is more effective, but also more prone to a glaring gaffe, than Grossmann. I think Gudas can bring what these two bring on most nights, but he's got to avoid dumb penalties. He's way too prone to losing step and using his stick to slow the attacking forward down. But when he stays within his game, he can be a pretty effective third pair defenseman. He played a lot of minutes for the Lightning last season when they were a 100+ point team, so he's not bereft of talent.

Johnny Gaudreau part deux?
- jmatchett383

Not sure if he's as dynamic, but I've noticed him in the two or three games I've watched his team play. Smart player, good with the puck. He makes things happen.

Gudas does hit guys and is very physical. Manning is more mobile than either Grossman ( who is very slow) and Schenn. I must admit, I have not seen a lot of Manningbut from what I have seen he can't do the job any worse than 8 or 22. Manning' s AHL stats are very good and he does have a lot of Pim's.. So I am sure he can bring toughness. Luke is just too inconsistent and it is time for Flyers to move on after getting ripped off in that deal
- 3flyerkids

Grossmann is probably the most physical of the 3, has a nice shot that he gets through traffic, and is the best shot blocker of the bunch. Sadly, his legs are just shot right now. Schenn is right-handed, which will give him a nice, long career as a 5/6 at the very least, but he lacks speed, any offensive capability, and positioning smarts. That said, Gudas is similar but probably a slight downgrade from Schenn and Manning is a 6/7 guy. But, given this team's current makeup, I could deal with both 8 and 22 departing.

Edit: Just stating what I've heard about Gudas. Sounds like a more level-headed but slower Rinaldo who plays defense.

Not sure if he's as dynamic, but I've noticed him in the two or three games I've watched his team play. Smart player, good with the puck. He makes things happen.
- Jsaquella

How's his speed?

Grossman would get them a decent return

Luke is untradable

Would have been better to just waive jvr
- Just5

Luke Schenn is not untradable. I have no idea why you think that.

How's his speed?
- jmatchett383

Above average to fast...not a blazingly fast guy, but he's got good wheels.

can you imagine if they really get it? my god.
- hammarby31

Hammar I'm disappointed in you. How can you even think this for a minute? Not only will they not win the draft lottery, wherever they finish in the standings, they will get the next pick after that. So i.e. if they finish 7th they will pick 8th etc...

http://www.tsn.ca/penguin...-to-flyers-again-1.248642

"Mason's goals-against average improved to 2.19, which ranks fourth in the NHL, and his save percentage climbed to .929, tied for second."

But, no Vezina talk, because Flyers goalies.

Grossman would get them a decent return

Luke is untradable

Would have been better to just waive jvr
- Just5

While JVR and Hartnell approach the 60 combined goal mark, L. Sloth and Turdberger have combined to rob the Flyers out of 8+ million. I wonder if they wear ski masks when they cash their checks.

http://www.tsn.ca/penguins-fall-to-flyers-again-1.248642

"Mason's goals-against average improved to 2.19, which ranks fourth in the NHL, and his save percentage climbed to .929, tied for second."

But, no Vezina talk, because Flyers goalies.
- jmatchett383

James Mirtle mentioned him as a Vezina candidate


James Mirtle @mirtle · 18h 18 hours ago

Have to think Steve Mason deserves consideration for a Vezina nomination, no? http://www.nhl.com/stats/...centageLeaders&sort=&ord= …

http://www.tsn.ca/penguins-fall-to-flyers-again-1.248642

"Mason's goals-against average improved to 2.19, which ranks fourth in the NHL, and his save percentage climbed to .929, tied for second."

But, no Vezina talk, because Flyers goalies.
- jmatchett383

How does a goalie with those numbers play on an NHL bottom feeding team? It boggles the mind. A .929 save % would have been swell in 2010.

How does a goalie with those numbers play on an NHL bottom feeding team? It boggles the mind. A .929 save % would have been swell in 2010.
- PLindbergh31

Look at Schneider. The Devils are just as bad as Philly and he's right there with Mase.

Look at Schneider. The Devils are just as bad as Philly and he's right there with Mase.
- Jsaquella

Yeah. That's true. It doesn't make much sense. The Flyers have two elite players in Giroux and Voracek, while the Devils have none. Makes it even more puzzling.

Mason was unbelievable yesterday. He's the real deal. I think over two years the sample size is large enough now to say, yes he's a top tier goaltender.

Slightly concerned with durability issues.

Yeah. That's true. It doesn't make much sense. The Flyers have two elite players in Giroux and Voracek, while the Devils have none. Makes it even more puzzling.

Mason was unbelievable yesterday. He's the real deal. I think over two years the sample size is large enough now to say, yes he's a top tier goaltender.

Slightly concerned with durability issues.
- PLindbergh31

Slight concern, but nothing major.

Got to figure out a way to keep people from slamming into him

Slight concern, but nothing major.

Got to figure out a way to keep people from slamming into him
- Jsaquella

I was about to mention that. Seemed like he got trucked about a half a dozen times yesterday. I like the fire he showed, I forget who it was, but in the scrum Mase threw a haymaker at someone.

The good thing is, it doesn't appear losing Reese has caused any issue with Mason. As a matter of fact, I think he's played better since Reese has been gone. Still would like to hear an explanation on what happened. I think it's about as simple as Reese was fed up with the way Mason was handled and pretty much quit.

I was about to mention that. Seemed like he got trucked about a half a dozen times yesterday. I like the fire he showed, I forget who it was, but in the scrum Mase threw a haymaker at someone.

The good thing is, it doesn't appear losing Reese has caused any issue with Mason. As a matter of fact, I think he's played better since Reese has been gone. Still would like to hear an explanation on what happened. I think it's about as simple as Reese was fed up with the way Mason was handled and pretty much quit.
- PLindbergh31

I agree that the likely Reese story was an issue over the handling of Mason & maybe an intrusion of what Reese felt was his area of responsibility.

Reese helped Mason tremendously, and Mason seems to have taken the lessons to heart. He's using the techniques Reese taught him, and most important, the mental approach that Reese guided him to has stayed in place.

Mason gets fired up, but he doesn't lose focus. The (now rare) bad goal almost never becomes two or three, which happened in Columbus. He shrugs things off quickly and refocuses his mental energy to the next shot, ignoring the last shot.

Mason's continued outstanding play is a testament to Reese and how much he helped Mason

I agree that the likely Reese story was an issue over the handling of Mason & maybe an intrusion of what Reese felt was his area of responsibility.

Reese helped Mason tremendously, and Mason seems to have taken the lessons to heart. He's using the techniques Reese taught him, and most important, the mental approach that Reese guided him to has stayed in place.

Mason gets fired up, but he doesn't lose focus. The (now rare) bad goal almost never becomes two or three, which happened in Columbus. He shrugs things off quickly and refocuses his mental energy to the next shot, ignoring the last shot.

Mason's continued outstanding play is a testament to Reese and how much he helped Mason
- Jsaquella

Agreed! Mason very rarely allows a bad goal, and like you said when he does, it doesn't cause him to go into a funk. His focus is rock solid. I was sad to see Reese go, as I believe he was instrumental in helping Mason turn things around. I would def preferred to have kept Reese over Berube.

The numbers Mason has posted this year are remarkable. He's been hung out to dry over and over again, and has received very little goal support. Those things have to weigh heavily on a tender mentally. The fact he's played this well the entire season is really unbelievable.

Agreed! Mason very rarely allows a bad goal, and like you said when he does, it doesn't cause him to go into a funk. His focus is rock solid. I was sad to see Reese go, as I believe he was instrumental in helping Mason turn things around. I would def preferred to have kept Reese over Berube.

The numbers Mason has posted this year are remarkable. He's been hung out to dry over and over again, and has received very little goal support. Those things have to weigh heavily on a tender mentally. The fact he's played this well the entire season is really unbelievable.
- PLindbergh31

Preaching to the choir in bold.

Mason's been their MVP. Voracek had an outstanding year and Giroux has been good(although by his own standards he hasn't been up to par), but there's no way that this team is out of the McDavid chase if they were starting Emery or a "run of the mill" goalie, to use Milbury's words

Preaching to the choir in bold.

Mason's been their MVP. Voracek had an outstanding year and Giroux has been good(although by his own standards he hasn't been up to par), but there's no way that this team is out of the McDavid chase if they were starting Emery or a "run of the mill" goalie, to use Milbury's words
- Jsaquella

Absolutely. If the Flyers started Emery/Zepp over the course of the entire schedule, they are definitely in the top 5.

Look at Schneider. The Devils are just as bad as Philly and he's right there with Mase.
- Jsaquella

I'd take the current Devils defense, as a whole, over the current Flyers defense. They both see about the same number of shots per game, but it seems like the Flyers leak odd-man rushes and high quality scoring chances like no others (maybe Edmonton).

I'm predicting a big year from couturier next year, provided the flyers keep him. You heard it here first