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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 1 @ 3:55 PM ET
So Marti is a Swiss defenseman who went home to play a couple of years ago. 22 years old. He put up 8 points through 32 games this years in the Swiss league, and 12 points through 50 games the year before. So there's something to be said for increasing his point pace pretty drastically despite an injury. I don't know that many NHL players who were playing Swiss league at that age to compare to.

Streit had 25 points through 44 games in the Swiss league at age 21.
Roman Josi had 17 points in 26 games there at age 22.
Damien Brunner had 7 points through 50 games there at age 21.
At age 23 Yannick Weber had 21 points through 32 games played there.
Raphael Diaz had 14 points through 50 games there at age 22.

So take from that what you will.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 1 @ 3:58 PM ET

- hammarby31


An injury prone European. He will fit in perfectly.

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 1 @ 4:04 PM ET
Flyers sign free agent d-man Christian Marti to an entry level contract
- nastyflyergirl

great name
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
An injury prone European. He will fit in perfectly.


- PLindbergh31


"we know he can't walk, let alone skate, because of a flesh eating bacteria he contracted last year in a russian gulag, but we like his upside." - flyers gm, ron hextall
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: RT @markhmasters: Mike Babcock says key factors in his decision:
1. What his wife thinks
2. Winning

- nastyflyergirl


Assuming his wife likes it in DET, and add to that his comments about there being "no better job" than his current one, and no interest in dual GM/coach role, it seems like he's probably gonna stay put.
BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: S. Jersey
Joined: 11.07.2006

May 1 @ 4:23 PM ET
Damien Cox (Sportsnet) believes Philly is the best fit for Babcock. Personnally, I think it's 50/50 he leaves DET.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ocks-choice-wont-be-easy/

Thoughts?

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 1 @ 4:26 PM ET
An injury prone European. He will fit in perfectly.
- PLindbergh31


Who are the other injury prone Europeans on the Flyers?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 1 @ 4:26 PM ET
"we know he can't walk, let alone skate, because of a flesh eating bacteria he contracted last year in a russian gulag, but we like his upside." - flyers gm, ron hextall
- hammarby31


lol
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

May 1 @ 4:28 PM ET
Damien Cox (Sportsnet) believes Philly is the best fit for Babcock. Personnally, I think it's 50/50 he leaves DET.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ocks-choice-wont-be-easy/

Thoughts?

- BOSS_TWEED


He's not the only to say that philly seems like one of the better options for him. I just hope that all that speculation is true.

I also think it's 50/50 he leaves Detroit. His post game comments after they lost made it seem as if he was a little frustrated with the organization and their lack of center depth in the system. And that is one thing we have... a lot of young centers.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 1 @ 4:29 PM ET
He's not the only to say that philly seems like one of the better options for him. I just hope that all that speculation is true.

I also think it's 50/50 he leaves Detroit. His post game comments after they lost made it seem as if he was a little frustrated with the organization and their lack of center depth in the system. And that is one thing we have... a lot of young centers.

- benjichronic


Never fear, we've got centers for years.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 4:29 PM ET
I get what you're saying, and I'm not saying that the Flyers won't be trying to compete, but what I'm saying is that the 7th pick in this year's draft will be a good NHL player (on a cheaper contract) once the defensive prospects that are in the system are ready to contribute. At that point, the Flyers should be in really good shape. This year the team under-performed by a decent margin and could've been a hell of a lot more competitive than they showed. Contenders, no. Competitive... could've been...

Buff might help in the short term, but in the long run it just doesn't make sense. Now, if you said Shattenkirk, I'd do that deal in a minute.

- Coleman


Shattenkirk doesn't have the same physical presence as buff though. No doubt the 7 will probably be a good nhler but time your rookies develop into good or great NHL players how old are your stars like giroux and voracek be? It would be almost like starting over again.
Philly I see close to edmonton, great forwards but seriously lacking in D
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 1 @ 4:31 PM ET
Shattenkirk doesn't have the same physical presence as buff though. No doubt the 7 will probably be a good nhler but time your rookies develop into good or great NHL players how old are your stars like giroux and voracek be? It would be almost like starting over again.
Philly I see close to edmonton, great forwards but seriously lacking in D

- manvanfan


Still in their 20s.

http://alongtheboards.com...velopment-nhl-defensemen/
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 1 @ 4:32 PM ET
Who are the other injury prone Europeans on the Flyers?
- Feanor


What's Grossmann? An Arab?
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

May 1 @ 4:35 PM ET
Shattenkirk doesn't have the same physical presence as buff though. No doubt the 7 will probably be a good nhler but time your rookies develop into good or great NHL players how old are your stars like giroux and voracek be? It would be almost like starting over again.
Philly I see close to edmonton, great forwards but seriously lacking in D

- manvanfan


We've exhausted that topic thousands of times. G will most likely be in his early 30's, jake in his late 20's. These are nhl elite players we're talking about here.... I've went and researched plenty of players that are producing very well, well into their early, mid, and late 30's. moot point about g and jakes age.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 1 @ 4:45 PM ET
Kinda sounds like buff(minus the untapped offensive talent portion)

I like the sounds of him. As long as he can work on his positioning and knowing when appropriate to throw a big hit, he sounds like he has the tools to possibly develop into a decent player someday

- benjichronic


Not an offensive defenseman but has a bit of puck-moving ability. Hockey sense is questionable -- even in the Q, that question was raised -- but really good physical tools and is young.

BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: S. Jersey
Joined: 11.07.2006

May 1 @ 4:45 PM ET
What's Grossmann? An Arab?
- PLindbergh31


No, but Kadri is (Arab-Canadian).
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 1 @ 4:48 PM ET
No, but Kadri is (Arab-Canadian).
- BOSS_TWEED


kewl
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

May 1 @ 4:49 PM ET
Not an offensive defenseman but has a bit of puck-moving ability. Hockey sense is questionable -- even in the Q, that question was raised -- but really good physical tools and is young.
- bmeltzer


Okay so he is more of a defensive dman?

The hockey prospect description ealier posted made it seem like he's got quite a bit of offensive potential... Thanks for the clarification.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 1 @ 4:54 PM ET
Not an offensive defenseman but has a bit of puck-moving ability. Hockey sense is questionable -- even in the Q, that question was raised -- but really good physical tools and is young.
- bmeltzer



Smells like a poor man's Luke Schenn.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

May 1 @ 4:56 PM ET
Smells like a poor man's Luke Schenn.
- Tomahawk


Lol maybe the lacking in hockey sense part
OrangeAndBlack1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'm not telling.
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 1 @ 5:00 PM ET
Thanks Bill. The thing I really like about Sanheim is that he doesn't seem to panic with the puck; how many times have we seen our D-men panic, and turn the puck over.
I would hope that the Flyers would learn from the Wed Wings, when it comes to drafting. It's not always worrying about getting the highest pick, it's what kind of player that you pick. In addition, pick for your needs, and not just what comes along the draft line.
Finally, patience. Develop your players, and you won't have to worry about the cap as much. Plus, you know what you are getting with that player.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 1 @ 5:01 PM ET
Assuming his wife likes it in DET, and add to that his comments about there being "no better job" than his current one, and no interest in dual GM/coach role, it seems like he's probably gonna stay put.
- Tomahawk


That's what I am hoping for.

As usual it seems it is BS media drumming up rumors about the possibility of him leaving.

All about luring in those readers.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 1 @ 5:35 PM ET
Marti was one of five European players I profiled last year who could be of interest to NHL teams, including the Flyers: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=60344
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 1 @ 5:38 PM ET
Matti was one of five European players I profiled last year who could be of interest to NHL teams, including the Flyers: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=60344
- bmeltzer

You are a wise man
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

May 1 @ 5:52 PM ET
Smells like a poor Luke Schenn.
- Tomahawk



That is still better than AMac who is a poor man's Randy Jones
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